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bleever

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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:08 PM Nov 2012

If a hack in Ohio failed, thank DU. (x-post) [View all]

Eight years ago, right around this time, a bunch of people starting discussing their suspicions about the 2004 election's many suspicious anomalies. Here, on DU. You couldn't do it at Kos; you'd get banned as a "fraudster".

DU's Election Results and Discussion Forum (as it was then called) became a place where a lot (and I mean a LOT) of work happened around this issue. It was a very dark time, and many of us believed we had witnessed a crime of incredible proportions. It was the theft of the United States of America, and in time it would lead to one of the most disastrous wars in our country's history, to the subversion of our Constitution in the form of warrantless wiretapping, torture, and more, including (via a blind eye to financial mis- and mal-feasance) the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Consequences so bad, it's difficult to even take it all in.

This year, it looked like things were being set up to happen the same way. Vote suppression. Unverifiable electronic voting. GOP control of elections in key states, especially Ohio and Florida.

But it didn't happen.

Mark Crispin Miller wrote this the day after the election:


It’s time to put an end to such complacent jeering; because people need to know—and want to know—what’s happened here, and what they can do about it. That growing public interest is the reason why our work has finally broken through, with Brad, Victoria, Bob, Gerry and Harvey Wasserman, Jonathan Simon, Sally Castleman, Richard Charnin, Michael Collins, Greg Palast, Bev Harris, John Ennis, Sheila Parks, Paul Lehto, Marta Steele and so many others (and please do forgive me if I didn’t name you here—I’m really tired!) finally seeing, if not their names in lights, their vital findings resonating through the public sphere.


Of the above names, at least four were DUers, regular and heavy contributors to the ERD forum. I am proud to call some of them friends.

Yes, DU. Democratic Underground, playing a vital role in the national conversation about election integrity.


I believe.
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We must not let our success (and luck) this time allow complacency on the issues. Rather, silvershadow Nov 2012 #1
We did not luck out. We won an election. randome Nov 2012 #14
Indeed, we did. We were lucky the Rove and Co. didn't move forward with their plan to steal. nt silvershadow Nov 2012 #15
Remember this image from the days just after the 2004 election? bleever Nov 2012 #2
if I recall, that was the year the great punditry claimed that exit polls were no longer relevant Whisp Nov 2012 #3
Yes indeed. bleever Nov 2012 #4
I never forgot that malaise Nov 2012 #9
Yes, polls irrelevant. In fact, they were pushing the "abandon polling" meme just the other day. silvershadow Nov 2012 #16
I do believe I'm on the road to being healed SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #7
Such a long time in coming. bleever Nov 2012 #8
For old times' sake, the Bush family on election night, when they were strangley trotted out bleever Nov 2012 #5
Ive been trying to find the clip of George and Jeb Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #27
Yes, I remember that too. Jeb said he was sorry for letting George down, bleever Nov 2012 #30
Really? "West Coast" ? never knew that. I could have sworn it was "make a call to Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #31
I expect he told more than one story, bleever Nov 2012 #32
I'm still a bleever and I never gave up! NGU!! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #6
I remember that absurd dismissive attitude at Kos about the Ohio election fraud. wakemewhenitsover Nov 2012 #10
Their line was, "we have to fix what's wrong with our party after this drubbing", bleever Nov 2012 #11
Exactly. And I remember opinions being expressed there like... wakemewhenitsover Nov 2012 #12
K&R Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #13
Fuck Bev Harris hootinholler Nov 2012 #17
+1000. Andy..... BeHereNow Nov 2012 #19
People like Bev Harris don't have the shame gene. Rex Nov 2012 #21
I found DU through Andy hootinholler Nov 2012 #25
I never got to meet him in person, but I loved his soul over the phone. BeHereNow Nov 2012 #28
Paper trail for EVERY vote!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #18
Thank YOU Bleever for this thread. n/t BeHereNow Nov 2012 #20
Seconded! calimary Nov 2012 #26
Thank you....It is good to see some are may get the thanks for all they did Tippy Nov 2012 #22
And so a new conspiracy saves the day from the old conspiracy! RomneyLies Nov 2012 #23
Analysis! bleever Nov 2012 #24
And from such a PROLIFIC new member! BeHereNow Nov 2012 #29
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