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In reply to the discussion: It would be nice if those DUers who [View all]malaise
(268,968 posts)24. So there were three or four states with problems - serious electoral problems
but the electoral system is one part of the political system and if there were very few problems in 47 states, then it is a minority of states where ReTHUGs tried to undermine the electoral system. What's more civil society, elements in the media and the judicial branch of government (local and Federal) put the ReTHUG legislators in their place and shut down the voter suppression. They lost - the political system is more legitimate now than in 2000 (Florida) or 2004 (Ohio) so the system worked.
Just wait for the charges to follow and men and women will be charged for trying to subvert the electoral system.
Yes, the US political system remains legitimate - despite its flaws.
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I went by data. Not pundits. Those who thought he'd win a landslide, that was wishful thinking
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#26
Yes. About 1.5%. I hadn't realized it had gone up that much from FL. Election night it was 1%.nt
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#44
Let's see...the President wins by at least 3 mill pop vote and more than 100 EV....
OldDem2012
Nov 2012
#39
No - legitimacy is the view of citizens that the government rightfully earned its right to rule
malaise
Nov 2012
#19
I hope (against hope?) that Congress tackles this issue. The RIGHT to vote EASILY
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#31
I thought it was a slam dunk after the Dem Nat'l Convention. Then the 1st debate happened.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#11
Only the media could push the view that one debate could decide the plethora of issues
malaise
Nov 2012
#21
I seem to recall that Romney lied and flip-flopped constantly during that first debate.....
OldDem2012
Nov 2012
#40
Yes, Romney lied. But the fact is....Obama lost. Yes, Romney's a lying SOS....
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#46
You weren't watching the same MSNBC I was watching during and after the 1st debate.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#47
Yes, I watched those screamers at MSNBC and was horrified by their bad behavior.....
OldDem2012
Nov 2012
#57
No. The PEOPLE decide who won. Not fact checkers afterwards. Millions decided
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#63
The PEOPLE decide who won. If a debater lies, and the other debater doesn't call him on it...
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#66
I know you can't see this, but for the record: If you can't take facts, why are you in a forum like
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#60
Me, too. I just didn't dare dream he'd get over 300 EVs. But he didn't NEED to.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#15
Election integrity concerns were valid, in view of the MSM narrative hyping a big Romney win.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#53
The hair on fire "we could lose" types got to me too. I was sick of their fear. nt
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#70