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mac56

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60. How much would this cost each state to provide?

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:05 PM

Nov 2012

In order to possibly intercept a minuscule number of fraudulent votes?

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What is wrong with requiring a picture ID to vote? [View all] el_bryanto Nov 2012 OP

In WV we are required to provide ID--our signature! k8conant Nov 2012 #1

A signature is in no way a form of identification... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #79

It works on my checks... k8conant Nov 2012 #87

Yeah, it works at POS terminals too, even if you just scribble something. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #93

Actually, it *IS*, but I think you knew that. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #137

Nothing, if ... Scuba Nov 2012 #2

Texas tried to implement a voter ID law LeftInTX Nov 2012 #63

Good. Those "barriers" are unacceptable. Scuba Nov 2012 #118

It's a poll tax Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #3

Hmmmm - well thanks for asking me to google poll tax el_bryanto Nov 2012 #11

No one should have to pay anything to vote, not even $15. Lex Nov 2012 #14

What if they were free? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #56

But they are not. Lex Nov 2012 #64

Hence the 'what if' 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #80

What if pigs could fly? In states where photo ID is required there are costs imposed now. yardwork Nov 2012 #85

I want you to step back and consider how silly your argument is getting 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #94

Nice try. You hope to confuse people by suggesting that the ID cards "could" be free. yardwork Nov 2012 #117

There is no possible way they could be free? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #123

I think that is bullshit cwydro Nov 2012 #130

What if voter fraud wasn't a problem? Lex Nov 2012 #97

What devastating effect 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #100

Why don't you get right on that? And while you're at it, make all marriages civil contracts, too. yardwork Nov 2012 #119

So it's your opinion that if it is not currently in existence/law of the land 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #124

Progress means fixing problems that actually exist. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #129

How can we fix anything without changing the status quo? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #132

How can we fix anything if we spend time fixing shit that doesn't need fixing. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #133

Fine, you feel there is no problem but... 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #100

And all the documents you need to GET the ID? Those free too? gcomeau Nov 2012 #67

Exactly. Lex Nov 2012 #75

thank you Kali Nov 2012 #81

Ditto, ditto, ditto. closeupready Nov 2012 #88

Sure 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #82

I'm sure we have the ability to get an ID card to everybody. Mariana Nov 2012 #113

So doing what a great many other nations have already done is not impossible 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #125

Also doesn't getting to the polls require 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #86

Not if you vote absentee. closeupready Nov 2012 #90

Interesting 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #95

Inform yourself. Regardless, I answered your question. closeupready Nov 2012 #110

Tons of people have ID 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #116

... Broken_Hero Nov 2012 #128

I agree. hopeforthebest Nov 2012 #69

Whether it seems "onerous enough" is beside the point, it's illegal (see: Voting Rights Act). Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #20

Per the US Supreme Court it is not illegal if there is no charge to obtain the ID. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #51

It is irrelevant and unnecessary in California JDPriestly Nov 2012 #96

I am a college student, lilithsrevenge12 Nov 2012 #28

Oh come on guardian Nov 2012 #76

Well you were the one who thought $15 wasn't a big deal. lilithsrevenge12 Nov 2012 #105

Hey, weren't you in the movie "Animal House"? mac56 Nov 2012 #108

Gas = drivers license. Correct? nt hack89 Nov 2012 #131

Good catch also what university doesn't issue student IDs? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #139

I agree with you PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #54

See here: gcomeau Nov 2012 #72

you are correct PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #89

Requiring people to bring and then show a picture ID at the polls would slow the JDPriestly Nov 2012 #99

How much would this cost each state to provide? mac56 Nov 2012 #60

Transportation to the place that takes the picture and issues the ID can JDPriestly Nov 2012 #106

For people on a fixed income or minimum wage job $15 is a lot csziggy Nov 2012 #68

Exactly! My mother in law's birth certificate had the wrong first name on it. So_Blue Nov 2012 #98

That was another problem with Mom's csziggy Nov 2012 #114

Which begs the question: What is the precise and relevant amount that is not... LanternWaste Nov 2012 #104

Now that's an interesting question el_bryanto Nov 2012 #112

Right brush Nov 2012 #57

Ever lost your id? Live and Learn Nov 2012 #4

Because it costs money to get one gollygee Nov 2012 #5

Nothing! ThatsMyBarack Nov 2012 #6

Unless an ID is issued to every single citizen, those without them will not be able to vote rbixby Nov 2012 #7

What's wrong with it? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #8

A lot of people in urban areas don't drive meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #9

Agree. n/t Agschmid Nov 2012 #38

Nothing. Lincoln showed his, as did Jefferson, et al The Straight Story Nov 2012 #10

LOL Celebration Nov 2012 #16

Who pays for all these people without driver's license to get an id? sarah FAILIN Nov 2012 #12

Requiring ID is a barrier sweetpea7788 Nov 2012 #13

Documents that are often required to get an ID, like a copy of your birth certificate, Chiyo-chichi Nov 2012 #15

and those who have been married, divorced, married newspeak Nov 2012 #30

It is a poll tax jberryhill Nov 2012 #17

You are right it is a poll tax exboyfil Nov 2012 #25

That still doesn't fix the problem jberryhill Nov 2012 #32

Federal Dollars for compliance exboyfil Nov 2012 #36

make it a federal law that birth certificates for obtaining voter i.d. are free. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #46

People would still have to pay for the transportation to the DMV to get an ID issued. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #111

If they can't get to the dmv, they probably can't get to the polls either... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #122

There are many more polling places than DMV offices. yardwork Nov 2012 #126

and despite all the difficulty- you were able to get to the dmv. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #127

Yes, because I am privileged. I have a job that doesn't require me to punch a clock. yardwork Nov 2012 #138

Elderly and disabled people do not have that kind of transportation JDPriestly Nov 2012 #140

I like Canada's laws, if you don't have photo ID someone with an ID can proclaim you are who you say NotThisTime Nov 2012 #18

Give people notice and it might be OK, even though it is still not necessary. IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2012 #19

I tend to agree with you exboyfil Nov 2012 #21

Simply put, no one should have to pay ANYTHING to vote. Not even the cost of an ID Lex Nov 2012 #29

I agree that is why I say DMV IDs exboyfil Nov 2012 #33

And how much will that cost each state? mac56 Nov 2012 #65

Doesn't matter if they're free. trotsky Nov 2012 #70

I like . . . brush Nov 2012 #78

why do we need photo id? beachbumbob Nov 2012 #22

It is designed to suppress votes as many in the cities rightfully dont trust libtodeath Nov 2012 #23

It's the objective nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24

You are right as far as Republican efforts go el_bryanto Nov 2012 #39

Look at how the IFE does it in Mexico nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #49

It's not only the cost of an ID that make it difficult to vote. Aristus Nov 2012 #26

I am a foodstamp and medicaid worker, all my clients HAVE to havd ID!! Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #27

And is the right to foodstamps guaranteed under the Voting Rights Act? Lex Nov 2012 #34

In Minnesota they don't Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #41

Not everyone has it. This is a limited view of a larger issue. n/t Agschmid Nov 2012 #44

So? jberryhill Nov 2012 #73

Why should there be a requirement to have a photo id to vote? Since there's only sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #31

Well, considering that 30 states all at once have voter ID bills (written by ALEC) either passed Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #35

Agree with everyone who says it's a poll tax and a means to suppress the vote. forestpath Nov 2012 #37

And a distraction\red herring from the reality that 1% of the country's population coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #50

+1 n/t Agschmid Nov 2012 #53

I currently live in Ohio, but not for long, and I cannot get a state ID... a la izquierda Nov 2012 #40

if you're living in the state for more than 30 days- BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #58

Lots of people don't have ID, and shouldn't need it to vote. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #42

Not a problem is you offer free, easily accessible photo ids to everyone, IMO. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #43

My mother never had one, neither did my three maiden aunts. Rozlee Nov 2012 #45

Nothing....as long as there is time allowed to get it, and there is no charge for it....nt AzSweet Nov 2012 #47

I'm confused about them too Catherine Vincent Nov 2012 #48

If a poll worker knows you personally in KY, you don't have to show ID... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #52

Because there would be many people in the Sandy disaster who now couldn't. nolabear Nov 2012 #55

They are difficult to get in Florida...you need all sorts of documentation. Sancho Nov 2012 #59

I covered this and other voter suppression issues in my radio show last thurs. Here is text and link stevenleser Nov 2012 #61

How about this: dawg Nov 2012 #62

little surprised by this query, Bryant bigtree Nov 2012 #66

Yes - and then some - it's a pretty convincing argument el_bryanto Nov 2012 #107

In CT Need ID or proof of tax bill, or utility bill Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #71

There are very, very few people who are not in some federal database. Beowulf Nov 2012 #74

It prevents a problem that does not exist... cynatnite Nov 2012 #77

Some voters including many older voters JDPriestly Nov 2012 #83

And, many, especiallty minority in the south question everything Nov 2012 #92

A) What voter fraud that exists won't be solved by mandatory ID checks. HuckleB Nov 2012 #84

Simple. Our problem isn't voter fraud - it's that less than half of eligible voters bother to VOTE! HopeHoops Nov 2012 #91

NOTHING, if they are free and easy to get krawhitham Nov 2012 #102

well, to make it easier, why not require a National ID card? quinnox Nov 2012 #103

CANADA -- Voter ID Makes Sense To Me.... quantass Nov 2012 #109

What problem does it solve that wouldn't recur with forged IDs? JHB Nov 2012 #115

It is certainly not a bad idea in and of itself; but neither is passing a series of laws LanternWaste Nov 2012 #120

Here's two reasons: It's a solution in search of a problem. The potential for abuse is too high. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #121

What's wrong with changing the rules weeks before an important presidential election? fried eggs Nov 2012 #135

They cost money = poll tax Fearless Nov 2012 #136