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In reply to the discussion: The fashion dictators call this "plus sized?" [View all]KansDem
(28,498 posts)27. Rubens
The Three Graces by Paul Paul Rubens, circa 1635
Rubens was a prolific artist. His commissioned works were mostly religious subjects, "history" paintings, which included mythological subjects, and hunt scenes. He painted portraits, especially of friends, and self-portraits, and in later life painted several landscapes. Rubens designed tapestries and prints, as well as his own house. He also oversaw the ephemeral decorations of the Joyous Entry into Antwerp by the Cardinal-Infante Ferdinand in 1635.
His drawings are mostly extremely forceful but not detailed; he also made great use of oil sketches as preparatory studies. He was one of the last major artists to make consistent use of wooden panels as a support medium, even for very large works, but he used canvas as well, especially when the work needed to be sent a long distance. For altarpieces he sometimes painted on slate to reduce reflection problems.
His fondness of painting full-figured women gave rise to the terms 'Rubensian' or 'Rubenesque' for plus-sized women. The term 'Rubensiaans' is also commonly used in Dutch to denote such women.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens
His drawings are mostly extremely forceful but not detailed; he also made great use of oil sketches as preparatory studies. He was one of the last major artists to make consistent use of wooden panels as a support medium, even for very large works, but he used canvas as well, especially when the work needed to be sent a long distance. For altarpieces he sometimes painted on slate to reduce reflection problems.
His fondness of painting full-figured women gave rise to the terms 'Rubensian' or 'Rubenesque' for plus-sized women. The term 'Rubensiaans' is also commonly used in Dutch to denote such women.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens
I'm no European art historian but perhaps the women Rubens painted some 400 years ago weren't considered "full-figured women" at the time but rather just "women," or, as you observed, "normal."
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You are right. She's probably within the healthy range of weight for her height.
applegrove
Oct 2012
#1
I blame the punk ass MBA holders in the boardroom who lack a CLUE about basic physiology.
alp227
Nov 2012
#105
Between the republican politicians and societal demands to look anorexic
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2012
#8
Individual preference that is influenced strongly, in most cases, by the culture and media that tell
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2012
#19
I think you mean "suit." Normal, healthy fat % for women is 20-30%. If you wear something tight,
Honeycombe8
Oct 2012
#58
I wish I looked like that! She's very hourglass, shapely, but not fat or bulky. Boobs too large, tho
Honeycombe8
Oct 2012
#59
Sure. Keep in mind that nearly all of the fashion dictators are gay men, and that
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2012
#71
I wouldn't call her fat, but I don't think she's great physical condition either
mythology
Oct 2012
#76
Wouldn't it be wonderful if Sports Illustrated included her in its swimsuit issue?
TexasBushwhacker
Oct 2012
#83
Barely, but you'd have to suspend reality to believe you'd sell a bikini with an obese model... nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Oct 2012
#91