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Beowulf

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28. If read some of the retrospectives on George McGovern that came out this past week

Reply to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:01 PM

Oct 2012

you can see some of the historical causes of this. Big labor led by George Meany either sat out the 1972 election or actively supported Nixon. And the Teamsters have been Republican ever since the Kennedy brothers went after Hoffa. Meany was never very friendly with public worker unions or service employee unions. Reagan was able to exploit this split between old and new labor well, so there have been a couple of generations of workers now who see the Republican Party as protecting their interests (mostly social concerns rather than economic ones). What Reagan did to PATCO should have galvanized labor for generations against the Republican Party, but PATCO represented government workers and solidarity never existed between the AFL-CIO and them.

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43 percent of union members in Ohio support Romney? [View all] ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 OP

The polite phrasing is cultural conservatives who vote against their economic interests BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #1

Must maintain feudal superiority over them Blacks! Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 #4

Out of her ass? meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #2

LOL. Romney: "and the teachers union is gonna have to be left behind" Coyotl Oct 2012 #12

We saw this same phenomenon play out in the WI recall election. Union members voting against.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #3

I've seen this myself... dtom67 Oct 2012 #5

Survey USA Poll has Romney at 42% MadBadger Oct 2012 #6

I refuse to believe that its as high as 43 percent. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #7

could be the coal industry, I think they are unionized and have been arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #8

Even in West Virginia, most miners are not organized anymore. byeya Oct 2012 #10

Absolutely sickening ! n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #33

Labor unions mostly hurt the out of control CEO pay packages and profits of byeya Oct 2012 #9

I agree with you. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #11

i work in a union shop and l believe it - stupidity knows no boundries leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #13

If true. . . . BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #14

Their happiness over keeping their jobs is trumped Arkana Oct 2012 #15

Ditto...you said exactly how I feel. SoapBox Oct 2012 #16

In the last debate didn't Romney say his father owned an element of anti-union car manufacturing? Media Lies Oct 2012 #17

I wonder how these people remember how to tie their own shoelaces. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #18

not everyone in a union really cares about that. They also go to church, hunt & fish, etc. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #19

OK? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #20

I'm kind of sick of posts that call working class people or rural people stupid. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #24

I agree. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #31

The Democrats really don't promote a clear message of economic populism. Bandit Oct 2012 #34

Who said otherwise? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #40

if they get screwed by the repubs turning ohio into right-to-work state the 2 or 3 leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #23

Oh yeah SB-5 was a real dog. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #26

do you mean more than the republicans appeal to working class-the democartic party leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #41

Actually I think you hit on it BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #27

sound about right krawhitham Oct 2012 #21

Im from Ohio Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #22

Because they edhopper Oct 2012 #25

If read some of the retrospectives on George McGovern that came out this past week Beowulf Oct 2012 #28

Great analysis. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #32

Teamsters have been republican since Kennedy? Teamster Jeff Oct 2012 #37

Teamsters have come back to Democrats since Clinton JI7 Oct 2012 #38

Knowing quite a bit about Ohio.... WCGreen Oct 2012 #29

Yeah vote for the party that wants to see unions destroyed ncav53 Oct 2012 #30

Right up there with Log Cabin Repubs N/T fugop Oct 2012 #35

There is no good reason for union members to vote republican Teamster Jeff Oct 2012 #36

They vote on things like Guns, Abortion, other Social Issues , they are actually the ones Romney JI7 Oct 2012 #39