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hlthe2b

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8. What are we to make of a 100% NO-WIN proposition? This was baked in to Bush* wars

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:54 PM

Aug 2021

more than 20 years ago-- and for every armed force dating back to Alexander the Great. This is what happens when our "exceptionalism" overrides any attempt to develop CULTURAL COMPETENCY. The same thing happened with our approach to Iran--before and after the Shah. Had we listened to those on the ground, rather than politicians who knew NOTHING, that might have been a world of difference there too.

It is the pathetic but predictable outcome. No winners. Lots of losers.

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How do you feel about our withdrawing from Afghanistan? [View all] MoonRiver Aug 2021 OP

As good as could be expected, given the circumstances. Klaralven Aug 2021 #1

Trump made a deal with the Taliban, ignoring the Government in Kabul. applegrove Aug 2021 #2

No it didn't, but that's how tRump rolls. MoonRiver Aug 2021 #3

I'm assuming we will have troops close by for some time, but Hoyt Aug 2021 #4

The short and simple truth. panader0 Aug 2021 #11

I don't think we should have ever gone. Our actions in both Iraq and Afganistan walkingman Aug 2021 #5

+1 zuul Aug 2021 #7

I like it Polybius Aug 2021 #6

What are we to make of a 100% NO-WIN proposition? This was baked in to Bush* wars hlthe2b Aug 2021 #8

Afghanistan was unwinnable from day one in a normal sense... JCMach1 Aug 2021 #35

Well said. nt crickets Aug 2021 #36

Can we evacuate the women and girls? Wicked Blue Aug 2021 #9

We all wish... MoonRiver Aug 2021 #19

Historically... wyn borkins Aug 2021 #10

BREAKING: Biden is deploying 5000 troops to Afghanistan IcyPeas Aug 2021 #12

Is that in addition to the 3000 already deployed? MoonRiver Aug 2021 #18

It's the second worst thing we could be doing there. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #13

Initially I was UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #14

There's no wrong way to quit doing what we shouldn't have done to start with. Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #15

It became a dilemma, with no good answer. TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #16

There may not be a good answer... Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #17

Here's what Charlie Pierce (Esquire) says about it: MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #20

I'm sorry Rumsfeld isn't still alive Retrograde Aug 2021 #21

As well as could be expected. Nexus2 Aug 2021 #22

other. going there in the first place was the major fuck up. No NewHendoLib Aug 2021 #23

" H2O Man Aug 2021 #29

Need an option of "best we could've done under the circumstances" LymphocyteLover Aug 2021 #24

Baran movie Tetrachloride Aug 2021 #25

I feel it's way easier to start a war than to stop one. GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #26

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Dubya should never have sent the troops in. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #28

never should have been there gopiscrap Aug 2021 #30

+1 H2O Man Aug 2021 #32

It was always going to be this bad. Iggo Aug 2021 #31

Had to be done Deminpenn Aug 2021 #33

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GWB fucked it up when he pushed for war on iraq + osama who? isis etc. pansypoo53219 Aug 2021 #37

Even without the war in IRaq and giving Afghanistan all our attention what difference would it have JI7 Aug 2021 #39

Seeing what is happening NOW . OBama should have left after we got Bin Laden. JI7 Aug 2021 #38