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In reply to the discussion: Obama campaign REFUSES to disclose plans on Social Security, says discussion belongs with senators [View all]mzmolly
(50,992 posts)286. FDR is dead.
Though, perhaps you can start a new discussion board for those 'Democrats' who have supported a single Democratic President?
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Obama campaign REFUSES to disclose plans on Social Security, says discussion belongs with senators [View all]
woo me with science
Oct 2012
OP
Jeez, at the rate we're going w/age increase, it won't be long before it's 70, 75. Why not 80?
nc4bo
Oct 2012
#3
Give those mother fers time they will get there. The dems aren't any more honest then the repubs.
southernyankeebelle
Oct 2012
#60
Raising the retirement age is not acceptable policy but rather a massive effective cut
TheKentuckian
Oct 2012
#30
Who said it is snark? He killed about 3 million, irrc, we have about 80 million
jtuck004
Oct 2012
#108
apologies then. i thought it was snark. and in fact, most of the folk who died under stalin
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#112
'Neither party is going to discuss this topic before the election.' = oh really? and why is that, i
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#25
Yes, and I told you what that answer will be, whether we like it or not. nt.
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#88
Who is running who then? You're argument is we choose masters rather than representatives.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2012
#36
Yes, I've been a registered Democrat since I was old enough to vote back in 1970...
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#75
Democracy is far older than you and yes it seems the truth is a problem for you.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2012
#356
It is not that SS in not a issue it is that Medicare is a better battle field to fight on
awake
Oct 2012
#65
We don't have time to wait. The "grand bargain" may be struck within weeks of the election...
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#91
We must do both..too many dems are open to a Simpson-Bowle-SHIT" "grand bargain."
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#103
so you don't care that they raise the retirement age because you already are recieving ss?
me b zola
Oct 2012
#189
Like hell we don't know. Raising the FICA cap and setting the initial benefits
eridani
Oct 2012
#253
Ditto. Not now. We know the philosophies & policies of the 2 parties. We don't need
Honeycombe8
Oct 2012
#213
Wrong, defending Social Security strenuously, is a WINNING election tactic and everyone
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#229
My thinking is with Axelrod. What will be the balance of the House/Senate starting 2013?
Ninga
Oct 2012
#5
You're worried about Obama's plan for Social Security?? Do you know what Romney's REAL plan is?
JaneyVee
Oct 2012
#10
Ah, but see, the beauty of scaring off Obama voters is that glorious revolution by the workers!
freshwest
Oct 2012
#309
With Romney + teabaggers we would be starting on the road to "private accounts" a la GWB and FAST
K8-EEE
Oct 2012
#94
There won't be enough time after the election to get mobilized..the "grand bargain" is coming...
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#113
and 'for now' is the operative phrase. it's a steady process of boiling the frog. for 30 years.
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#250
All they need to do is raise the cap, problem solved, yet no one brings that up
still_one
Oct 2012
#56
That was actually one of the things the Simpsons Bowles commission said to do.
Sirveri
Oct 2012
#275
I'm proud and determined to take no prisoners and go for the jugular on this.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2012
#77
Obviously you missed the administration's clever word game on "cut" versus "slash"
woo me with science
Oct 2012
#129
i am happy to elect democrats that will enact & protect democratic policies.
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#38
The problem is all the positive comments about "Simpson-Bowle-shit"..they've telegraphed too much...
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#111
So you're equally sure that Obama doesn't want the Bush tax cuts to expire for the 1%?
MannyGoldstein
Oct 2012
#237
You won't get screwed. Current and almost there retirees are a protected class.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2012
#272
What about encouraging people to walk and chew gum at the same time? Would that be OK?
eridani
Oct 2012
#255
You must have the archaic notion that your vote belongs to you rather than to a politcian.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#71
LOL. Please VOTE FOR ROMNEY.. seriously. Because I think THEIR plans are really awesome. nt
progressivebydesign
Oct 2012
#118
If Obama does anything with social security, it will benefit us...not hurt us. If Rob-me gets hold
judesedit
Oct 2012
#54
Yeah, Bernie is the best--may he be blessed with great health and a long life!!
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#116
There is probably going to be an attempt to fuck with Social Security regardless of the election
tularetom
Oct 2012
#62
I don't fucking play games and have no use for that shit. If you are posting that for Obama
Autumn
Oct 2012
#97
No, that was a bluff to EXPOSE BOEHNER was not serious about deficit reduction.
emulatorloo
Oct 2012
#149
Thank you. I am sick to death of those who are willing to put blinders on until it is way too
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#353
"I’ll tell you what, when you get elected to the United States Senate and sit at that table" Axelrod
jtuck004
Oct 2012
#81
You think killing millions of seniors is a prize? What a pathetic, ill-thought out opinion.
jtuck004
Oct 2012
#96
Who is the enemy when we are sending $40 billion a month to wealthy people so their
jtuck004
Oct 2012
#148
An Excellent Post...! Thank you....because that fills in the details about Bailing out the Banks
KoKo
Oct 2012
#316
It really bothers me. People are losing their homes, seniors were told their equity would
jtuck004
Oct 2012
#334
Nice post from you about our Economy and Stock Market...and how much we don't know..and
KoKo
Oct 2012
#339
It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#151
Axelrod is the one you should "admonish"..for sounding like "Willard" with his "quiet room" comment.
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#124
THANK YOU. This should be the response by every citizen who is *EVER*
woo me with science
Oct 2012
#121
56 & over = a majority of the electorate. SS is an important issue; I don't understand why
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#114
it is a very important issue to me - one of the main reasons i am a democrat and an obama
arely staircase
Oct 2012
#128
please, by all means continue to worry over non-existent things. here in the reality based community
arely staircase
Oct 2012
#350
He said in the debate he had a version of Simpson-Bowles in front of congress. I wonder if this is
dkf
Oct 2012
#125
When I read the piece here about Peter G. Peterson, I finally understood.
LiberalAndProud
Oct 2012
#126
Voting is not enough all by itself anymore, and voting is absolutely NOT the only voice we have.
woo me with science
Oct 2012
#183
and the alternative is much MUCH FUCKING WORSE, so howzabout we stop enabling it? nt
LaydeeBug
Oct 2012
#147
It is the reponsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#153
Maybe you and Woo can provide me a list of Democrats in the House and Senate
emulatorloo
Oct 2012
#157
Well, let's start with the Senators who didn't sign the letter opposing Soc Sec cuts....
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#160
At least we know where the Norquest pledge signers stand--they make better targets..
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#165
Right. Because a 'discussion' with 300 million people will certainly clear things up.
randome
Oct 2012
#159
They cleaned it up with holes large enough to drive a "Simpson-Bowles" bannered semi through....
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#168
Instead of insulting those who raise concerns--a little respect for their positions would be welcome
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#176
Is this supposed to be some bizarre version of "Are you now or have you ever been..."?
woo me with science
Oct 2012
#186
No. Just the reminder police. This IS a discussion board for those supportive of Democrats
mzmolly
Oct 2012
#193
There is voting for Democrats period. And then there is voting for Democrats comma.
eridani
Oct 2012
#258
Skinner has clarified his position on numerous occasions. I quoted him, specifically in my sig line.
mzmolly
Oct 2012
#289
Expecting, and voicing the expectation, that Democrats will not attack Social Security benefits
woo me with science
Oct 2012
#217
"...list?" What is this "list?" "Please be careful" you warn and then mention "purity."
KoKo
Oct 2012
#317
I personally do not like that statement. I want to know IF I have to work until I'm 70 or 80.
diabeticman
Oct 2012
#206
And how bloody convenient it is that people get jobs right out of school and stay
eridani
Oct 2012
#260
remember woo: 'In times like these people have to watch what they say and watch what they do'.
KG
Oct 2012
#215
more like, "don't be a douchebag and campaign against dems at the end of a presidential campaign"
dionysus
Oct 2012
#347
Glad there are still some of us FDR/New Deal democrats who aren't just going to "go along" with cuts
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#259
Could you (and everyone on this thread who does so) quit using bullshit terminology like
eridani
Oct 2012
#261
As an eventual "tweakee", your presentation is absolutely where we should stand..
tokenlib
Oct 2012
#262
As a current tweakee, I'd like the discussion. I also like increased FICA cap and increased benefits
Hoyt
Oct 2012
#270
Unfortunately "simpleton" approaches and trying to put everything into simple boxes/questions
Hoyt
Oct 2012
#269
I really don't care to waste my time trying to explain it to you. You won't get it.
Hoyt
Oct 2012
#311
I get that you think getting slowly poorer with each advancing year is wonderful for old folks
eridani
Oct 2012
#312
I don't think I'll get slowly "poorer" from chained-cpi. I do think we'll get poorer if we don't
Hoyt
Oct 2012
#313
I will be depending on SS for damn near all my retirement income, but that means I'm dependent on
Hoyt
Oct 2012
#342
There is a SocSec Trust Fund in surplus to the tune of a couple of trillion, invested in T-bills
eridani
Oct 2012
#346
How President Obama and Mitt Romney compare on preserving Social Security for America’s seniors
ProSense
Oct 2012
#277
Well...they are good at what they do as Political Operatives...BUT..are they good for the Rest of Us
KoKo
Oct 2012
#341
He needs a Democratic Senate. This is one way to say "make it so, or bad things CAN happen", a.k.a..
patrice
Oct 2012
#326