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In reply to the discussion: Mika Brzezinski’s erotic dance (from Salon.com) [View all]chknltl
(10,558 posts)128. Not actually demonizing anyone, we agree on much, here is where i come from:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1363696
Above is a link to a DU 1 thread. It discusses Larry Flynt and his impending release of incriminating information about a hypocritical republican. I joined into this thread about half way down (post #105), singing the praises Mr. Flynt, comparing him to Jon Conyers who then was fighting the Republicanws openly enough to be called hero by many of us DUers back then. I got challenged by fellow DUer noamnety. Our discussion is lengthy but by its end, my paradigm had shifted. To this day I am grateful for that.
Before reading that, (should you choose to do so that is and I STRONGLY advise you to do so in order to continue our discussion), understand this about me. I have never been prudish when it comes to sex. To each their own is my motto. For decades I was privileged to work with and photograph musicians at work. One of those bands featured the Queen Mother of all Dominatrixes, Gen of GENITORTURERS. She and her merry band of kinksters tour the country teaching any who would attend their shows that throwing off cultural shackles can indeed open up some of the best sex ever. I agree. I like their music too. Below is one of my favorite songs by them 'Cum Junkie'. It starts out blurry but once the music starts it gets better and rocks out just fine
http://m.youtube.com/watch?.feature=related&v=mGIx3B7stds
Below is a link to their homepage, be advised they are not everyone's cup of tea.
http://www.genitorturers.com/home.html
I am not advocating stopping the porn industry. What I seek is a cultural paradigm shift when it comes to how our culture views sex. I am no grand philosopher on this topic but after my discussion with noamnety in the above link, I came to understand how the objectifying of women has turned America into nightmare of misogyny and sexism. I now see how sexism is the other side of the same coin called racism. I subscribe to neither.
Can an end to racism, sexism or misogyny ever happen? This we can not know of course but we can control it within ourselves individually . We do it best by understanding its root causes within ourselves, we understand it best when we see life through the eyes of others and we see it even better yet when we take off our cultural blinders. noamnety and the the Genitorturers BOTH helped me to see this problem from a whole different perspective.
When it comes to resolving what our society is suffering due to our cultural repression of sex, there has to be another way. It is possible you and I are actually far closer in our thinking than it seems. We both want to see an end to the suffering without repressing the exploration and enjoyment of all things sexual. This is the liberal or Progressive way. I understand that the Conservative or repressive solution is not advocated here by either of us.
Above is a link to a DU 1 thread. It discusses Larry Flynt and his impending release of incriminating information about a hypocritical republican. I joined into this thread about half way down (post #105), singing the praises Mr. Flynt, comparing him to Jon Conyers who then was fighting the Republicanws openly enough to be called hero by many of us DUers back then. I got challenged by fellow DUer noamnety. Our discussion is lengthy but by its end, my paradigm had shifted. To this day I am grateful for that.
Before reading that, (should you choose to do so that is and I STRONGLY advise you to do so in order to continue our discussion), understand this about me. I have never been prudish when it comes to sex. To each their own is my motto. For decades I was privileged to work with and photograph musicians at work. One of those bands featured the Queen Mother of all Dominatrixes, Gen of GENITORTURERS. She and her merry band of kinksters tour the country teaching any who would attend their shows that throwing off cultural shackles can indeed open up some of the best sex ever. I agree. I like their music too. Below is one of my favorite songs by them 'Cum Junkie'. It starts out blurry but once the music starts it gets better and rocks out just fine
http://m.youtube.com/watch?.feature=related&v=mGIx3B7stds
Below is a link to their homepage, be advised they are not everyone's cup of tea.
http://www.genitorturers.com/home.html
I am not advocating stopping the porn industry. What I seek is a cultural paradigm shift when it comes to how our culture views sex. I am no grand philosopher on this topic but after my discussion with noamnety in the above link, I came to understand how the objectifying of women has turned America into nightmare of misogyny and sexism. I now see how sexism is the other side of the same coin called racism. I subscribe to neither.
Can an end to racism, sexism or misogyny ever happen? This we can not know of course but we can control it within ourselves individually . We do it best by understanding its root causes within ourselves, we understand it best when we see life through the eyes of others and we see it even better yet when we take off our cultural blinders. noamnety and the the Genitorturers BOTH helped me to see this problem from a whole different perspective.
When it comes to resolving what our society is suffering due to our cultural repression of sex, there has to be another way. It is possible you and I are actually far closer in our thinking than it seems. We both want to see an end to the suffering without repressing the exploration and enjoyment of all things sexual. This is the liberal or Progressive way. I understand that the Conservative or repressive solution is not advocated here by either of us.
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Maybe I am old, and I don't see it...but she looks, to me, like she has shit on her lip
MADem
Sep 2012
#135
That "show" is right out of Mad Man. He is Don Draper and she his devoted secretary.
Peregrine Took
Sep 2012
#35
I'm not a big fan of Mika regarding her commentary...but I find her to be incredibly gorgeous!
titaniumsalute
Sep 2012
#27
They aren't even readers or presenters--they usually cut away to someone else who delivers the
MADem
Sep 2012
#127
Barbara Walters used to give us the nightly news, too--but that's not what she does on THE VIEW.
MADem
Sep 2012
#126
Zbiggy's daughter is NOT a journalist. Comparing her to Diane Sawyer is NOT appropriate.
MADem
Sep 2012
#121
Hard to take her seriously, now. This morning she was wearing a porno-type dress....
Obamamite
Sep 2012
#52
I've never taken her seriously. How can you when she does nothing but bat her eyes,
K Gardner
Sep 2012
#62
I keep picturing Andrea Mitchell in that pose--not the same erotic effect--at all!
librechik
Sep 2012
#54
Journalists do not "opine" in the course of delivering the news of the evening (or the morning).
MADem
Sep 2012
#134
How long do you think it took ALL of them to adjust her "dress" so it would cover her panties
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#68
Not really as pornographic as Republicans running a guy with hidden Swiss bank accounts
Bucky
Sep 2012
#70
Devastatingly pathetic... The more things change, the more they stay the same....
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#77
The only people calling her names & diminishing her worth are the ones "outraged" by the picture.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2012
#81
Certainly. But I think it's reprehensible to call a woman names or diminish her worth
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2012
#90
Isn't there an element of irony in pillorying someone for something on the obstensible grounds
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2012
#114
Ok but phrases like air-head, tart, grotesque, saying that she can't be taken seriously
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#108
i would have missed this excellent post if not for an alert on the OP. you are truly awesome. nt
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#130
A woman's professional and mental abilities really ought to be judged by her appearance
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#99
That's all she's good for and that's all that conservative men think we women are good for.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2012
#133
Good thing that in these dire times progressives of all stripes can come together and give some slut
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#140