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HappyMe

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8. I find the 'we don't react that way'

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Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:32 PM

Sep 2012

thing kind of weird. How many times have there been riots after a sports team wins or loses.

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Ugh, DU. The anti-Muslim sentiment here is getting to me. [View all] cali Sep 2012 OP

We just aren't as religious treestar Sep 2012 #1

The US is one of the most religious countries in the world. It just has better police & civil order. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #61

No, we just practice "organized rage" called wars, occupation, drones and the like. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #134

Which apparently had nothing to do with the Benghazi riot. randome Sep 2012 #136

This is Planet Earth, not heaven. aquart Sep 2012 #142

And what percentage of the killing in the Middle East has been done by us or are allies? Puregonzo1188 Sep 2012 #158

NO, we are fat, rich, lazy and can't be bothered. renie408 Sep 2012 #177

The black spot tama Sep 2012 #152

You lost me when you said "the rage is understandable" Progressive dog Sep 2012 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author randome Sep 2012 #4

i'd be enraged if saudi arabia was randomly bombing people in the us, canada, mexico, etc. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #10

I was enraged when they murdered over 3,000 of my fellow Americans... KansDem Sep 2012 #176

Were you enraged when the US ginned up a proxy war in Afghanistan? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #201

You'll get no argument out of me... KansDem Sep 2012 #208

THEY? "They, who"? mzteris Sep 2012 #202

"They?" KansDem Sep 2012 #206

Eh, I can't say I agree. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #15

There was no "defense of the mobs" in the OP... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #25

It was implied Progressive dog Sep 2012 #57

all you had to do was ask. cali Sep 2012 #75

Cali wasn't saying "we don't react this way"... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #92

Here is one IMO lunasun Sep 2012 #165

someone once said that when poverty and oppression kills hope roguevalley Sep 2012 #39

Yes it is abelenkpe Sep 2012 #67

How about the rage we showed when 911 happened...all movonne Sep 2012 #89

That is not the same thing Progressive dog Sep 2012 #133

The question is why are they violent. People here get enraged all the time. dkf Sep 2012 #3

US citizens excuse violence all the time Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #16

According to many reports... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #31

It's sounding to me like Libya had nothing to do with riots. dkf Sep 2012 #45

Yes, the widespread riots are concerning... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #60

They're not exactly demanding we curtail our rights ToxMarz Sep 2012 #91

There are riots over this video in countries with free speech and freedom of religion oberliner Sep 2012 #195

And? ToxMarz Sep 2012 #211

And they understand the distinction between the nation and the video oberliner Sep 2012 #212

No one said they were confused... ToxMarz Sep 2012 #215

But why protest at the US consulate there? oberliner Sep 2012 #216

You're fooling yourself if you think that the relative comfort sufrommich Sep 2012 #50

Just as education and prosperity contribute to it. randome Sep 2012 #52

Actually this kind of behavior isn't unique to the middle east...look at gang violence. dkf Sep 2012 #73

Very astute point! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #108

It seems to me to be a virtual parallel to what's going on in the Middle East. nolabear Sep 2012 #5

I'm sorry but forcing women to defer to men. randome Sep 2012 #6

i'm sorry but bombing people because they have different customs doesn't fit my definition of HiPointDem Sep 2012 #12

We're bombing people because of their customs now? randome Sep 2012 #27

You don't remember when we bombed Saudi Arabia for not allowing women to drive? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #53

I would be more in favor of economic blockades and other measures to right that wrong. randome Sep 2012 #54

we want to be the world's police?????? lunasun Sep 2012 #166

Do you think advocating for equal rights is NOT a good use of American influence? randome Sep 2012 #175

that's not why we're doing it but it's certainly one of the PR techniques used to make it ok in the HiPointDem Sep 2012 #59

Yeah, it's easy to sweep it all under the rug when it's 'over there' instead of 'here'. randome Sep 2012 #65

sweep what under the rug, bombs? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #71

Sweep away the complex reasons we are involved in ANY country's business. randome Sep 2012 #76

When has our military ever gotten involved for human rights? Puregonzo1188 Sep 2012 #159

I didn't say our miltary specifically was involved. randome Sep 2012 #161

Bombing them because of their customs??? Oh my goodness.... liberallibral Sep 2012 #129

glad you're not a comedy writer, either. despite the smiley laugh track, you're not funny. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #130

We don't bomb them because of customs, it's mostly resources like oil.. snooper2 Sep 2012 #149

no we just rationalize & justify it in those terms. which is what all the "oooh, look at all these HiPointDem Sep 2012 #162

LOL, at one time people said the same thing about slavery. Brilliant! Congrats! Logical Sep 2012 #155

There are people here who would fit that discription. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #19

Good advice, eqfan. cbayer Sep 2012 #22

Thanks :) eqfan592 Sep 2012 #26

I'm not sure what part of Post #6 is advocated by DUers. randome Sep 2012 #34

I meant here as in the US, not the DU. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #64

Got it! Sorry! randome Sep 2012 #66

Which is why we need... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #93

Yeah, Republicans today ARE a mob. randome Sep 2012 #102

Buncha guys on faux agree with you. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #21

"Calling" for women to be subservient and "forcing" them to be are 2 different things. randome Sep 2012 #30

Maybe I missed the mobs murdering abortion providers here... MNBrewer Sep 2012 #97

Plenty of home-grown mobs to encourage murder. randome Sep 2012 #100

So there are no mobs murdering abortion providers? MNBrewer Sep 2012 #107

No. We don't have mobs murdering abortion providers. randome Sep 2012 #110

And what's even LESS civilized is to take those people up on their invitation to do so MNBrewer Sep 2012 #118

Your problem isn't your terminology, Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #139

I'd understand your post if you responded to one of my earlier ones. randome Sep 2012 #145

Peace. I hope you understand some day. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #157

Ambassador Susan Rice: Libya Attack Not Premeditated riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #205

Trusting the source with an American name Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #218

enforced poverty and drones torture thats ok? i would riot too. roguevalley Sep 2012 #40

Funny how none of the protests mention those things. randome Sep 2012 #46

the rage is the root of everything and we ignore it at our peril roguevalley Sep 2012 #74

On the flip side... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #94

All of which can be easily corrected thanks to the Internet. randome Sep 2012 #98

"I'm sorry but forcing women to defer to men." abelenkpe Sep 2012 #70

Some do want to do that. randome Sep 2012 #72

Those who were murdered in Libya BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #114

I get you. randome Sep 2012 #119

Thanks for the response. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #124

Agree with Randome!!! liberallibral Sep 2012 #128

No kidding 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #180

kr. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #7

I find the 'we don't react that way' HappyMe Sep 2012 #8

That's not civilized behavior, either. randome Sep 2012 #9

But whenever that happens, it too gets condemned/mocked/criticized on here. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #63

And that is as it should be. HappyMe Sep 2012 #125

It's funny how quickly things can get ugly around here... luvspeas Sep 2012 #11

On DU, it's more anti-fundamentalist sentiment meow2u3 Sep 2012 #13

we're not invading and bombing israel. i rarely see anything here about jewish fundamentalists. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #17

Happens all the time here with Christians B2G Sep 2012 #14

Agree!!! Some people pose as free-thinkers, but their biases are very evident. nt patrice Sep 2012 #116

Sorry, but fundamentalist religious sects of any stripe are, by their very nature, uncivilized. MadHound Sep 2012 #18

Very well stated, MadHound. tosh Sep 2012 #23

Maybe some countries aren't "civilized" because we have been joeybee12 Sep 2012 #32

I'm not stating that countries are uncivilized, MadHound Sep 2012 #37

Not anti-muslim here. Whovian Sep 2012 #20

Fuck all religious fundamentalist pricks.... Joe the Revelator Sep 2012 #24

You're right. Cleita Sep 2012 #28

I blame religious people for a lot of the world's problems. Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc... Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #29

I'm with you Comrade LiberalLovinLug Sep 2012 #115

Well... Not allowing women to drive, and executing homosexuals, Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #33

Agree. While specifically attacking extremism of any stripe seems appropriate, cbayer Sep 2012 #35

I find it "offensive" that an opinion frequently floated is ... etherealtruth Sep 2012 #36

I admire their personal, private, honest, and very deep jihad. That's not something that is patrice Sep 2012 #117

A right wing nut is identical in emotional and mental state to RegieRocker Sep 2012 #38

No, US meddling is good! Tax dollars funneled to dictators.... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2012 #41

I tend to think it comes from people who actually sufrommich Sep 2012 #42

The rage is not understandable. Deep13 Sep 2012 #43

The ones who commit murder over insults are everything you mention and worse. CBGLuthier Sep 2012 #44

I don't see any complaints about anti-Republican sentiment here. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #47

There is some bigotry and hypocrisy ProSense Sep 2012 #48

totally agree Whisp Sep 2012 #49

The vast majority of muslims wouldn't kill over an insult bhikkhu Sep 2012 #51

+1 Needed to be said. nt Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #55

I agree davidthegnome Sep 2012 #56

That's funny. Many Free Republic posters can't even spell 'illiterate'. randome Sep 2012 #58

Geeze.... WiffenPoof Sep 2012 #62

Indeed, imagine a horde of rightwinger Bruce Willises stupidicus Sep 2012 #68

"The rage is understandable..." Alduin Sep 2012 #69

no, the film is clearly the spark in the tinder cali Sep 2012 #78

Yes... Alduin Sep 2012 #80

Not B-film; Z-grade film BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #88

This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with social backwardness. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #77

"without an attempt to understand context" - What context makes these murders ok? Ohio Joe Sep 2012 #79

"The violence isn't justifiable but the rage is understandable." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #81

It is fair to criticize rioters bluestateguy Sep 2012 #82

no one said it wasn't, but way to miss the point of the op. cali Sep 2012 #85

Political Science warrprayer Sep 2012 #83

+1 2on2u Sep 2012 #84

What ever flaws the United States has. iandhr Sep 2012 #86

That's why I've skipped those threads. JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #90

"It''s probably not the majority but it's a sizable minority. " greiner3 Sep 2012 #95

People DO protest in our country BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #96

May I suggest "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? lamzydivy Sep 2012 #99

I've read it. May I suggest this isn't only or even chiefly about religion? cali Sep 2012 #146

I agree with this sentiment, and I say that as an atheist and fan of The God Delusion. n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #150

Totally agree. I don't why some DUers can't seem to grasp that this film is just the tip Puregonzo1188 Sep 2012 #160

I've come to belief that some people here don't want to face cali Sep 2012 #169

+1000 nt. polly7 Sep 2012 #163

Yes. Exactly. nt laundry_queen Sep 2012 #194

But there have been riots in Australia and Europe oberliner Sep 2012 #197

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #101

The arrogance is a generally Western and particularly American response Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #103

It shouldn't matter what brought us to this point, though. randome Sep 2012 #109

See, that's just the sort of arrogance I'm talking about though Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #112

I see your point. randome Sep 2012 #121

It's poverty that does that Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #126

Agreed. We can 'afford' the concept of equal rights. randome Sep 2012 #131

Surreal ! lunasun Sep 2012 #168

Thank you malokvale77 Sep 2012 #164

a voice of reason...refreshing lunasun Sep 2012 #167

I agree graham4anything Sep 2012 #104

In what context is this "understandable" and not uncivilized, backward and violent MNBrewer Sep 2012 #105

A abhor all extremists, no matter the religion, also can't stand anarchists, libertarian extremists, progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #106

Abhor yourself tama Sep 2012 #156

Freedom? Slavery: when "it's the other guy", it's ALWAYS "the other guy" who caused me/us to patrice Sep 2012 #111

You are correct on this. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #113

Islam is still a young religion B Stieg Sep 2012 #120

1400 years is young? MNBrewer Sep 2012 #122

Propaganda responders rule the American populace just1voice Sep 2012 #123

Sorry, but when hoards of people riot and cause violence because of a cartoon or a movie.... liberallibral Sep 2012 #127

CONTEXT. Igel Sep 2012 #132

Excellent tama Sep 2012 #190

Me, too. Perhaps some real data on the US in eternal wars, mostly of choice, cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #135

This war is no more anti-Muslim than the wars of conquest for CA, TX, NM and AZ were cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #137

SURVEY: KILLING OF BIN LADEN WORSENED AMERICANS’ VIEWS OF U.S. MUSLIMS BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #138

I swear, you can't distinguish some posts from stuff over at FR... Surya Gayatri Sep 2012 #140

"Blacks, gays and Jews never did anything wrong. Muslims deserve to be abused" Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #141

Cali, I don't think you're seeing much anti-Muslim sentiment on DU. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2012 #143

Checklist JVS Sep 2012 #144

I thought the information coming to light shows evidence of planned attacks by an organization? theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #147

Why don't the Central American countries react "that way"? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #148

Because tama Sep 2012 #154

So because the indigenous people are less sophisticated, they will act with greater restraint? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #198

I know you are not following tama Sep 2012 #199

Civilized or sophisticated is simply semantics. The Aztecs felt their culture was superior riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #207

I am in agreement riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #151

I lived in Libya for 4 years MFM008 Sep 2012 #153

Let's drop their fundamentalists in the desert with our fundamentalists ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2012 #170

Hopeless Barbarians billyball Sep 2012 #171

my, my. that's stupid. cali Sep 2012 #172

How am I being welcomed ? billyball Sep 2012 #173

You didn't read what they wrote. renie408 Sep 2012 #200

Your remark was none too intelligent, either. randome Sep 2012 #204

OTOH, Doctor_J Sep 2012 #174

On this I agree with you 100%. renie408 Sep 2012 #178

And they should stop beheading women for daring to want equal rights. randome Sep 2012 #182

Of course I do! Naturally I support the beheading of women! renie408 Sep 2012 #184

My point is that there are obvious differences between the two cultures. randome Sep 2012 #186

No, that is the spin on your point that you are making now. renie408 Sep 2012 #187

Yes, well, it's hard to feel empathy for those Mideast states... randome Sep 2012 #188

"Those are things we SHOULD disparage and work to remove." renie408 Sep 2012 #191

"Protests against us"? No, I think it is everyone's job to press for equal rights. randome Sep 2012 #192

It is a flat lie to say that I have implied that they are just like us. renie408 Sep 2012 #196

My apologies if I took your point further than I should have. randome Sep 2012 #203

Now, I will say...they are just like us. renie408 Sep 2012 #209

I've seen Christians receive far worse for far less. 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #179

there's flat out bigotry here against Muslims cali Sep 2012 #181

Where? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #210

I hope you are alerting on any "flat out bigoted" posts you see. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #214

Oh FFS, where? I've been called a bigot because I object to women having to wear a burqa riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #217

Cali, it's complicated and people don't like complicated answers... JCMach1 Sep 2012 #183

Thank you! Just like there are Christians who believe the planet is 6000 years old and others renie408 Sep 2012 #185

100% agree. closeupready Sep 2012 #189

People deserve respect. Ideas do not. They must stand on their own. nt Romulox Sep 2012 #193

I'm with Cali. 99Forever Sep 2012 #213