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Showing Original Post only (View all)Barack Obama won the Iowa Caucus with 98%. "Uncommitted" got 2%. [View all]
And despite there being no real competition, some 25,000 Iowans came out in the January cold to vote for Barack Obama.
People here were predicting ahead of time that with SO MANY Democrats frustrated or angry, "Uncommitted" might win the caucus, and show that terrible old Obama what we thought of him. I do believe this pretty much puts a bullet in the theory of there being a huge grassroots segment of the Democratic base that's angry with Obama. So go ahead, and huff, and puff, and feed the Republican narrative of Obama's supposed ineffectiveness and weakness. In the end, aside from the few people who are fooled, it's just a handful of loud, angry bloggers looking to make money and fame off of stirring shit.
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I haven't kept up with the Greenwald story. Too over my head right now.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#6
LOL I particularly love the comments accusing people of being "condescending," "insulting"
Number23
Jan 2012
#58
"People here were predicting ahead of time that with SO MANY Democrats frustrated or angry,
nadinbrzezinski
Jan 2012
#11
"Cenk and his followers failed miserably in their attempt to prove that SO MANY voters are anti-Obam
Number23
Jan 2012
#59
I support the President avidly and I wouldn't even drive 2 miles for this caucus
banned from Kos
Jan 2012
#15
25,000? That's it? In 2008, the turnout exceeded 239,000, far above the 124,000 in 2004.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#18
2004 and 2008 were incumbancy numbers. Apparently there was no caucus in 1996 for Democrats.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#21
What do you perceive as "incumbancy numbers"? Do you reject the Washington Post's numbers?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#23
In 2004 and 2008 Bush was an incumbant. In 2000, only 2001 voters voted for Gore / Bradley.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#24
It otherwise appears that 61,000 - not 2001 - turned out for Gore / Bradley in 2000.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#28
"why NOT go to ... instead?" Because these are Iowa friends and neighbors. They show up to
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#49
So going to a football game with family and friends is same party as voting for a dem candidate in a
snooper2
Jan 2012
#50
I am afraid that I don't take your point. A sports contest can always produce an upset.
MADem
Jan 2012
#62
I don't recall anyone here predicting that there would be a significant number of "uncommitted."
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#19
Since one of the campaigners for the uncomitted movement at the last minute switched to Ron Paul...
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#22
25000 is a huge number IMHO, it's cold and Obama wouldah won anyway....this is a good thing
uponit7771
Jan 2012
#33
Not sure if you have a point. It's a foregone conclusion that Obama's the nominee. That anyone....
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#54
Do you get the sense that these talking points were prepared beforehand, just in case "Operation
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#64
Dude, you must not understand the process. The reason 100,000 showed up for the GOP is because
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#73
Your nonsensical talking points aside, the math just doesn't favor you or "Uncommitted".
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#81
For perspective, that's 25,000x as many people that caucused for Clinton in 1996.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#86
Please. Read this thread. There are apparently a bazillion totally "legitimate" reasons why
Number23
Jan 2012
#60
Well, I certainly should hope so, given the amount of resources the Obama camp dumped into it,
MadHound
Jan 2012
#68
I guess all this proves is that most Democratic Iowans who caucused aren't idiots.
MjolnirTime
Jan 2012
#72