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CabCurious

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32. I would expect many democrats to agree with you...

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:38 AM

Aug 2012

But Clinton outflanked the Republicans on the economy. He made stronger arguments than them.

He is the ONLY politician in 35 years to give "trickle down" a serious punch in the face and to gain credibility for alternate ways of thinking, hence he shifted the discourse to the left. Slightly.

Obviously those left-of-center consider him a "conservative" for believing in markets and free trade at all.

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We are in real danger of swerving so far to the right there's no coming back. [View all] cali Aug 2012 OP

Traditional conservatism looks "left-wing" to this present bunch of GOP'ers. kentuck Aug 2012 #1

It's not just about the American electorate being dumb cali Aug 2012 #2

If they were not ignorant or uninformed... kentuck Aug 2012 #4

We've commercialized information/news to the point of no return CabCurious Aug 2012 #10

Correct. If more people were capable of hifiguy Aug 2012 #43

sadly, I think that we are already there...greed, guns and 'god' have delivered us. bowens43 Aug 2012 #3

we aren't even close to where we'll be cali Aug 2012 #5

True. And if they do, we might be driven back to sanity hifiguy Aug 2012 #45

Our biggest enemy, imho, is not religion Marrah_G Aug 2012 #8

I think we have swung so far towards corporations already that there is no going back Marrah_G Aug 2012 #6

Not just corporations. The FINANCE sector, specifically. CabCurious Aug 2012 #9

The always insightful Kevin Phillips was making the point hifiguy Aug 2012 #46

Politics can be like a pendulum during reactionary times CabCurious Aug 2012 #7

we haven't swung strongly to the left over the past 4 years. cali Aug 2012 #11

You're right. Bonobo Aug 2012 #14

This was the risk we took with national health care reform CabCurious Aug 2012 #22

Bing-friggin-go! Bonobo Aug 2012 #25

USA was absolutely uncomfortable with health care reform. As for centrism... CabCurious Aug 2012 #28

Clinton absolutely did NOT adjust the center to the left. Bonobo Aug 2012 #31

I would expect many democrats to agree with you... CabCurious Aug 2012 #32

Horsepucky. 99Forever Aug 2012 #39

I agree, although conservatives don't see it that way CabCurious Aug 2012 #21

"our nation is conservative overall" - do you have anything to back TBF Aug 2012 #35

Well, while the nation is not conservative over all.. ananda Aug 2012 #40

Rigging voting machines and making it harder to vote TBF Aug 2012 #42

Our political consversation in this country has deginerated MadHound Aug 2012 #12

And whose fault is that?? kentuck Aug 2012 #13

Yes. In a nutshell. You got it. Bonobo Aug 2012 #15

Should have split from the Democratic party long ago, MadHound Aug 2012 #18

commercialized information/news CabCurious Aug 2012 #23

Umm Kentuck... 99Forever Aug 2012 #41

The left has been long gone - banished via the Palmer Raids TBF Aug 2012 #36

I think Obama is economically conservative. That being said, we're facing mmonk Aug 2012 #16

He's trying to be fiscalling responsible, which isn't "conservative" CabCurious Aug 2012 #24

Trillion dollar deficits - four years in a row. kentuck Aug 2012 #26

see the link in my sig. Obama has increased spending at the lowest rate since eisenhower. CabCurious Aug 2012 #29

Yes. Because.... kentuck Aug 2012 #30

Yes, stimulus spendig jacked up spending... but Obama has reduced deficits. Those are the facts. CabCurious Aug 2012 #33

and it won't be four years in a row. He's reducing the deficit. CabCurious Aug 2012 #34

What's conservative is continual budget cuts and "grand bargains" mmonk Aug 2012 #47

Obama is going to be re-elected. Yes, we are going to turn out in sufficient numbers to defeat AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #17

Agree completely! k and r goclark Aug 2012 #19

Gay rights is the geni that can't be put back into the bottle. randome Aug 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #27

To all of you gloom mongers who are so damn sure that 'more money=instant success' Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #37

And that's when I will cheer on the revolutionary left... from the sidelines, though. nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #38

People have a systematic way of thinking the world will declare things have gone "too far!" Romulox Aug 2012 #44