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Bonobo

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25. Bing-friggin-go!

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:42 AM

Aug 2012

But to clear up a couple of mistakes you seem to make.

It wasn't that the public was uncomfortable with it.

The problem was we took half-measures and STILL suffered from the political attack from their side calling it socialism which they would have done either way.

In the end, we were conservative and got called wild radicals, cementing our centrism and redefining it as left wing.

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We are in real danger of swerving so far to the right there's no coming back. [View all] cali Aug 2012 OP

Traditional conservatism looks "left-wing" to this present bunch of GOP'ers. kentuck Aug 2012 #1

It's not just about the American electorate being dumb cali Aug 2012 #2

If they were not ignorant or uninformed... kentuck Aug 2012 #4

We've commercialized information/news to the point of no return CabCurious Aug 2012 #10

Correct. If more people were capable of hifiguy Aug 2012 #43

sadly, I think that we are already there...greed, guns and 'god' have delivered us. bowens43 Aug 2012 #3

we aren't even close to where we'll be cali Aug 2012 #5

True. And if they do, we might be driven back to sanity hifiguy Aug 2012 #45

Our biggest enemy, imho, is not religion Marrah_G Aug 2012 #8

I think we have swung so far towards corporations already that there is no going back Marrah_G Aug 2012 #6

Not just corporations. The FINANCE sector, specifically. CabCurious Aug 2012 #9

The always insightful Kevin Phillips was making the point hifiguy Aug 2012 #46

Politics can be like a pendulum during reactionary times CabCurious Aug 2012 #7

we haven't swung strongly to the left over the past 4 years. cali Aug 2012 #11

You're right. Bonobo Aug 2012 #14

This was the risk we took with national health care reform CabCurious Aug 2012 #22

Bing-friggin-go! Bonobo Aug 2012 #25

USA was absolutely uncomfortable with health care reform. As for centrism... CabCurious Aug 2012 #28

Clinton absolutely did NOT adjust the center to the left. Bonobo Aug 2012 #31

I would expect many democrats to agree with you... CabCurious Aug 2012 #32

Horsepucky. 99Forever Aug 2012 #39

I agree, although conservatives don't see it that way CabCurious Aug 2012 #21

"our nation is conservative overall" - do you have anything to back TBF Aug 2012 #35

Well, while the nation is not conservative over all.. ananda Aug 2012 #40

Rigging voting machines and making it harder to vote TBF Aug 2012 #42

Our political consversation in this country has deginerated MadHound Aug 2012 #12

And whose fault is that?? kentuck Aug 2012 #13

Yes. In a nutshell. You got it. Bonobo Aug 2012 #15

Should have split from the Democratic party long ago, MadHound Aug 2012 #18

commercialized information/news CabCurious Aug 2012 #23

Umm Kentuck... 99Forever Aug 2012 #41

The left has been long gone - banished via the Palmer Raids TBF Aug 2012 #36

I think Obama is economically conservative. That being said, we're facing mmonk Aug 2012 #16

He's trying to be fiscalling responsible, which isn't "conservative" CabCurious Aug 2012 #24

Trillion dollar deficits - four years in a row. kentuck Aug 2012 #26

see the link in my sig. Obama has increased spending at the lowest rate since eisenhower. CabCurious Aug 2012 #29

Yes. Because.... kentuck Aug 2012 #30

Yes, stimulus spendig jacked up spending... but Obama has reduced deficits. Those are the facts. CabCurious Aug 2012 #33

and it won't be four years in a row. He's reducing the deficit. CabCurious Aug 2012 #34

What's conservative is continual budget cuts and "grand bargains" mmonk Aug 2012 #47

Obama is going to be re-elected. Yes, we are going to turn out in sufficient numbers to defeat AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #17

Agree completely! k and r goclark Aug 2012 #19

Gay rights is the geni that can't be put back into the bottle. randome Aug 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #27

To all of you gloom mongers who are so damn sure that 'more money=instant success' Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #37

And that's when I will cheer on the revolutionary left... from the sidelines, though. nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #38

People have a systematic way of thinking the world will declare things have gone "too far!" Romulox Aug 2012 #44