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limpyhobbler

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205. No explanation? What do you have against Indian-Americans who own local shops?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:16 PM - Edit history (1)

After bringing that shit up it's not surprising you want to cut the conversation on the subject.

You did attack us all when you started making race and ethnicity an issue with the motel and quicky-mart owners. Also when you targeted your anger at Indian workers instead of wealthy owners. That's my understanding of solidarity.

I agree with you on some of the policies about protecting American jobs, and stopping H1B type of programs. We have enough race hate and anti-immigrant feeling in this country already. So please wipe your feet at the door and don't drag that dog shit into our labor movement and the Democratic party.


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Editing to reply to your edits:

you disgrace your Grandparents comparing their journey with the race to the bottom of today's wage war you so heartily endorse.
No they would be proud of me for standing up against race baiting and anti-immigrant sentiment.

And regarding my representing the UAW, at least I have a Union to be proud of. Today the low-wage poachers you endorse are still scabs in our book.
So are you claiming to represent the UAW? It is certainly not the policy of the UAW to say that anybody who comes over here on a work visa, or works for lower wages is a scab.


A scab is a strikebreaker or someone that refuses to join a union.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scab

The UAW also wouldn't endorse your race-baiting of quicky-mart owners. You don't know shit about me or what union I've been in, or organizing work I've done, picket lines I've been on and what happened there.

Targeting your anger at the H1B workers and small shop owners is race-baiting.
Disgusting.



I agree. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #1
I agree. RagAss Aug 2012 #2
I agree Tikki Aug 2012 #3
as long as you condemn the industry and not the people hollysmom Aug 2012 #4
of course it's not the workers taking the jobs; it's the system, and us politicians/business/manage- HiPointDem Aug 2012 #6
Ask any one of them if you can buy a business there, preferably a gas station DainBramaged Aug 2012 #7
LOL why not. They are taking all our gas stations. American Made Aug 2012 #163
Sorry - can you clarify that? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #168
Ask any one of them if you can buy a business there, preferably a gas station American Made Aug 2012 #171
And just WTF does investing in a gas station Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #173
Who said anything about that? I was responding to a post about gas stations. American Made Aug 2012 #174
Pardon, but your xenophobia is showing. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #175
How so? American Made Aug 2012 #176
Our anger should be directed at the American Billionaires who are outsourcing jobs in the..... LongTomH Aug 2012 #30
in my former career in the game design industry keroro gunsou Aug 2012 #195
Absolutely right! Before retiring I was a VP/GM with one of the world's largest outplacement firms. ohiosmith Aug 2012 #5
More than taking jobs, demolishing professional standards of competence. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #8
OH I c an certainly give my example about lying hollysmom Aug 2012 #12
I agree. undeterred Aug 2012 #9
I'm working side by side with Indians in IT Anansi1171 Aug 2012 #10
Think about the plumbing and the poverty in countries like India. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #37
I agree completely and have lived with such plumbing... Anansi1171 Aug 2012 #53
Your post is certainly buzzword compliant. jeff47 Aug 2012 #60
It may be too rich on the words but it has a mechanism to find work and mitigates a lack thereof. Anansi1171 Aug 2012 #73
But how, exactly, do you make it work. jeff47 Aug 2012 #75
I try to live very frugally, recycle, reuse and live wisely. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #89
I've always wondered how a country zzaapp Aug 2012 #151
I was one of the two Leave It Alone jury votes on the alert on your now hidden post LonePirate Aug 2012 #11
I thank you, there was NO racism intended DainBramaged Aug 2012 #14
Some times it is what it is. westerebus Aug 2012 #21
Same here Boss. Born in the USA. Fuck the job stealers. American Made Aug 2012 #164
It is not a race issue. It is about wages, about the valuation of work JDPriestly Aug 2012 #38
I'm on your side madokie Aug 2012 #13
You know, your anger is partly misplaced nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #15
Both India and China's economies were created by American corporations back in the 70's. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #19
Exactly,and instead of lashing out at OTHER PEOPLE nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22
I lash out at the industry, and I still love ya DainBramaged Aug 2012 #28
The problem is that you are lashing truly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #33
How? China and India are both good examples. Collective bargaining is impossible in both Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #34
I know the prohibitions, they existed in the US nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #35
So are you saying that we must continue to fall further and further until those Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #81
No, what I am saying is that we need a multiple prong aproach nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #82
But doesn't it make sense to decide on, develop, and implement a solution Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #109
Right now we are all just fighting and pointing fingers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #112
IOW giving up on them was such a bad idea that virtually everybody that didn't stand to profit from Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #142
We are at the small mind state nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #144
Very good point! Not accidental at all! NT Anansi1171 Aug 2012 #57
They're not taking our jobs. Our jobs are being given to them. Initech Aug 2012 #16
Exactly. eggplant Aug 2012 #39
Sure, here's an apple DainBramaged Aug 2012 #46
I'm not arguing with what you wrote, but that makes Bill Clinton and a host of Democrats Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #110
if the shoe fits frylock Aug 2012 #114
From where does your sig line come? I think I like it. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #143
I believe it is a Britney Spears quote. nt NCTraveler Aug 2012 #148
LOL, perfect! Thanks. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #161
+1,000. And they are desperate to survive, so they don't follow rules. Could happen anywhere. freshwest Aug 2012 #169
Be sure to read this thread... antigop Aug 2012 #17
And this one.. OhioChick Aug 2012 #36
LOL!!! And people used to say H1B workers aren't underpaid. Zalatix Aug 2012 #94
I have stopped responding to immigration posts simply because even on DU WilmywoodNCparalegal Aug 2012 #99
Here are a few IT positions open at my employer (name redacted) WilmywoodNCparalegal Aug 2012 #100
Put this up as its own thread and we'll have the discussion this deserves. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #113
Well, again, since I actually do this for a living, WilmywoodNCparalegal Aug 2012 #147
And since I am quite literate I was able to read what you wrote and since I also did Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #160
Tell it, DB! NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #18
I agree liberallibral Aug 2012 #20
Globalisation abelenkpe Aug 2012 #23
I was just looking in my area, which is a high tech center, pnwmom Aug 2012 #24
I think US workers and Indian workers should form labor unions and unite together to demand more limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #25
I think we should have world peace, too. awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #26
You're right abelenkpe Aug 2012 #51
With the way that pay... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #59
Thinking about it... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #61
Bummer. abelenkpe Aug 2012 #74
absolutely and they are not as smart 2Design Aug 2012 #27
I agree Ron Obvious Aug 2012 #29
Reduces Incentive SoDesuKa Aug 2012 #77
I see many recruiters emailing me Panasonic Aug 2012 #31
I gave up applying for jobs YEARS ago DainBramaged Aug 2012 #45
do you actually work for Panasonic- snooper2 Aug 2012 #56
No Panasonic Aug 2012 #70
Can you clarify, what specifically are you advocating? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #32
My OP is pretty much self-explanatory and if you go through my journal DainBramaged Aug 2012 #43
Any other policy recommendations? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #67
K & R L0oniX Aug 2012 #40
India's strict visa regulations hamper entry of skilled foreigners OhioChick Aug 2012 #41
"Workers of the WORLD Unite" is still the answer. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #42
That,and we MUST remove our aggregate consumption as disruptively as possible from their equation. Anansi1171 Aug 2012 #62
I will believe there is no racial angle to this when... Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2012 #44
I can go to Canada or Australia tomorrow and work DainBramaged Aug 2012 #47
Your anger is misplaced NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #48
I can attest to it because I know someone doing it. Hired the guy, brought him over, Lionessa Aug 2012 #49
Similar with the visual effects industry flamingdem Aug 2012 #50
They are getting better abelenkpe Aug 2012 #54
Good point. They send the best people over to train them and then flamingdem Aug 2012 #65
also companies are "in-sourcing" again realizing it ain't all sunrise sending jobs to India snooper2 Aug 2012 #52
I posted a long response on exactly this point in the earlier OP on outsourcing to India / China. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #101
is there anyone here who disagrees with that? if so, they obviously don't work in IT... dionysus Aug 2012 #55
I noticed our friends from the NRA stayed out of this one DainBramaged Aug 2012 #88
K&R for defending your right to speak the truth as you see it. nt Skip Intro Aug 2012 #58
And it's NOT just IT either. Bonobo Aug 2012 #63
India has the most recipients of H-1B visas antigop Aug 2012 #64
The Indian IT revolution... Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #66
Why are the citizens of one country more deserving of jobs than citizens other countries? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #68
Did you forget where the internet came from??? L0oniX Aug 2012 #71
Al Gore. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #84
Americans deserve jobs in America if they are competent to perform those jobs DainBramaged Aug 2012 #83
Don't Indians deserve jobs in India if they are competent to perform those jobs? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #86
Why do they deserve our jobs? Why can't they create their own jobs form their economy? DainBramaged Aug 2012 #87
+1,000,000! Zalatix Aug 2012 #96
It is NOT the responsibility of America to employ anyone. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #104
Sounds like free market propaganda. nt Union Scribe Aug 2012 #106
Sounds like fallacious argumentation. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #107
Borders are real, as are the workers in them. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #180
I agree people are real, but borders are strictly imaginary. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #187
Wow, nice anti-worker talking point there. Zalatix Aug 2012 #139
There is nothing anti-worker about my position. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #149
Not anti-India, but rather Anti-American workers. Zalatix Aug 2012 #153
I don't recognize boarders as real things, ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #155
And they all get fucked by the nonsense you spout Union Scribe Aug 2012 #181
Sorry for the spelling error. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #186
American citizens Aerows Aug 2012 #92
Those jobs are no longer American jobs, they are now Indian Jobs. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #105
Sounds like Repuke talking points to me. L0oniX Aug 2012 #116
Sounds like fallacious argumentation to me. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #120
If you are for jobs going to non-US citizens you might as well go work for Robme. L0oniX Aug 2012 #121
It's amazing, you think you know a member here, and BANG, BOOM, ZING DainBramaged Aug 2012 #125
... L0oniX Aug 2012 #129
Personal attacks are easier than making logical arguments. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #130
Stop, whining like a baby doesn't score points DainBramaged Aug 2012 #132
So, that is all you have. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #134
Meh DainBramaged Aug 2012 #138
Ever wonder why people used to support offshoring, but now 90% oppose it? Zalatix Aug 2012 #157
Which of my claims are wrong? ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #158
Is that one aspect of one issue the only difference you see between ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #131
They are American jobs. Zalatix Aug 2012 #140
Stolen by whom? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #150
Stolen by the Corporate elite. Zalatix Aug 2012 #154
Sounds like you are taking the Indian's side. If you like them so much why not move there? American Made Aug 2012 #166
I don't see the situation as American workers versus Indian workers. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #170
See if you can go to India and get a job there or start a business. American Made Aug 2012 #172
First of all, am I an not the one complaining. I am the content one in this debate. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #177
why is your life worthy while others aren't? fascisthunter Aug 2012 #118
I can empathize with workers in most industrial countries. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #122
then why even vote or have a country fascisthunter Aug 2012 #123
I vote because that is one aspect of the system we have in place for creating desired changes. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #133
+1,000. One faulty argument stomped. Zalatix Aug 2012 #141
I understand your feelings on this but I think arthritisR_US Aug 2012 #69
True, the oligarchs enable the resume cheating uponit7771 Aug 2012 #72
Foreign IT workers "with questionable resumes"? Just wait until we discover how many doctors AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #76
Because they check MD degrees before issuing a license. jeff47 Aug 2012 #103
That's adequate? No one has ever practiced medicine without a license in the recent past? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #108
One of the few benefits of our private healthcare system jeff47 Aug 2012 #145
You're wrong. Those who create fraudulent credentials from foreign countries are not going to AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #146
Insurance companies don't just trust the fake doctor. jeff47 Aug 2012 #162
They took our entire IT department a couple weeks ago. liberalmuse Aug 2012 #78
It is not racism DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #79
there's a longer video of this meeting I saw a few months ago but can't find it. juxtaposed Aug 2012 #80
They were offered jobs on a silver plated platter aikoaiko Aug 2012 #85
This is an interesting place... progress2k12nbynd Aug 2012 #90
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #115
I agree - you are telling it like it is Aerows Aug 2012 #91
I agree. AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #93
I think the multinational CFO's are giving the jobs to the lowest paid employees they can find LanternWaste Aug 2012 #95
The Indians didn't steal our jobs. The 1% stole our jobs and gave them to Indians. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #97
I disagree that it is 'racist' to argue this point. closeupready Aug 2012 #98
The real problem is that the corporations are GLOBAL, and the workers are "country bound". JoePhilly Aug 2012 #102
duh. global wealth of the 1% has no allegiance to country or flag datasuspect Aug 2012 #111
Your not incorrect, at all. Sometimes people get a little to 'pc'. nt cecilfirefox Aug 2012 #117
wow... "PC"... like original mannnnnn... fascisthunter Aug 2012 #119
So you believe that workers have the ability and the strength to "take" jobs? LanternWaste Aug 2012 #156
Asia will not let you work there. They fail to HATE THEIR WORKERS apropriately!!!! upi402 Aug 2012 #124
Its not that you are entirely wrong, your lens is just a bit out of focus me b zola Aug 2012 #126
dude... don't feel guilt fascisthunter Aug 2012 #127
Nope. Wrong. People like Rmoney are SHIPPING them out. Zax2me Aug 2012 #128
It's a cold, hard world out there. I make no apologies for wanting Americans to have jobs RZM Aug 2012 #135
North Korea is a new outsourcing destination FarCenter Aug 2012 #136
North Koreans need jobs very badly. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #137
So do Americans. Zalatix Aug 2012 #191
Yep rock Aug 2012 #152
1000000% agreed. EnviroBat Aug 2012 #159
Kick! sarcasmo Aug 2012 #165
To add rufus dog Aug 2012 #167
If you were an Indian, wouldn't you take the job? treestar Aug 2012 #178
Do you see the word industry there? DainBramaged Aug 2012 #179
Wait are you saying you tried to buy a gas station in India but got denied? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #185
If it doesn't add up, why not investigate it for yourself? DainBramaged Aug 2012 #188
Wait so now you have a problem with Indian motel and gas station owners? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #192
"But I think you go right up to the line of being racist and would go over the line" DainBramaged Aug 2012 #197
I'm more interested in why your ranting has expanded to include Indian-American hotel owners. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #203
Well, personal insult aside, the difference between your Grandparents (and mine too) DainBramaged Aug 2012 #204
No explanation? What do you have against Indian-Americans who own local shops? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #205
You bring up a good point in regard to staying vs leaving the US OhioChick Aug 2012 #206
As I wrote earlier, we had 20 living in an apartment in the building across from me DainBramaged Aug 2012 #207
I see your point entirely OhioChick Aug 2012 #208
Those that come here make a minimal contribution to our economy DainBramaged Aug 2012 #209
Placing the blame squarely on the migrant workers again. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #210
Then you need Indians to take the jobs to rise higher and demand more treestar Aug 2012 #199
So it's OK to lower the wage standard here, turning the US into a third world country? DainBramaged Aug 2012 #200
It's OK to raise the Indian wage standard treestar Aug 2012 #201
Not with our jobs DainBramaged Aug 2012 #202
I think you need to find another target JonLP24 Aug 2012 #182
Offshoring to India and the H1b visa twins.fan Aug 2012 #183
The company I used to work for toyed with it MNBrewer Aug 2012 #184
Where I work now they have been constantly approached DainBramaged Aug 2012 #189
+1! - I like your passion on this issue!!! twins.fan Aug 2012 #198
indians are not to blame...blame the greedy US corps looking to keep costs low HipChick Aug 2012 #190
The Indian H1B body shops are Indian twins.fan Aug 2012 #193
A lot of the firms are global, Indian companies have been buying out US companies HipChick Aug 2012 #194
With ill gotten gains, Indian companies are buying out other companies twins.fan Aug 2012 #196
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