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2on2u

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Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:21 PM Aug 2012

(Warning Pic Heavy) WWII B17 survival story [View all]

I am pretty sure the govt built this plane and not rich dudes pursuing the latest deferrment scams for themselves and their children.



B-17 "All American" (414th Squadron, 97BG) Crew
Pilot- Ken Bragg Jr.
Copilot- G. Boyd Jr.
Navigator- Harry C. Nuessle
Bombardier- Ralph Burbridge
Engineer- Joe C. James
Radio Operator- Paul A. Galloway
Ball Turret Gunner- Elton Conda
Waist Gunner- Michael Zuk
Tail Gunner- Sam T. Sarpolus
Ground Crew Chief- Hank Hyland
B-17 in 1943
A mid-air collision on February 1, 1943, between a B-17 and a German fighter over the Tunis dock area, became the subject of one of the most famous photographs of World War II. An enemy fighter attacking a 97th Bomb Group formation went out of control, probably with a wounded pilot then continued its crashing descent into the rear of the fuselage of a Fortress named All American, piloted by Lt. Kendrick R. Bragg, of the 414th Bomb Squadron. When it struck, the fighter broke apart, but left some pieces in the B-17. The left horizontal stabilizer of the Fortress and left elevator were completely torn away. The two right engines were out and one on the left had a serious oil pump leak. The vertical fin and the rudder had been damaged, the fuselage had been cut almost completely through connected only at two small parts of the frame and the radios, electrical and oxygen systems were damaged. There was also a hole in the top that was over 16 feet long and 4
feet wide at its widest and the split in the fuselage went all the way to the top gunner's turret.
Although the tail actually bounced and swayed in the wind and twisted when the plane turned and all the control cables were severed, except one single elevator cable still worked, and the aircraft still flew - miraculously! The tail gunner was trapped because there was no floor connecting the tail to the rest of the plane. The waist and tail gunners used parts of the German fighter and their own parachute harnesses in an attempt to keep the tail from ripping off and the two sides of the fuselage from splitting apart. While the crew was trying to keep the bomber from coming apart, the pilot continued on his bomb run and released his bombs over the target.

When the bomb bay doors were opened, the wind turbulence was so great that it blew one of the waist gunners into the broken tail section. It took several minutes and four crew members to pass him ropes from parachutes and haul him back into the forward part of the plane. When they tried to do the same for the tail gunner, the tail began flapping so hard that it began to break off. The weight of the gunner was adding some stability to the tail section, so he went back to his position.

The turn back toward England had to be very slow to keep the tail from twisting off. They actually covered almost 70 miles to make the turn home. The bomber was so badly damaged that it was losing altitude and speed and was soon alone in the sky. For a brief time, two more Me-109 German fighters attacked the All American. Despite the extensive damage, all of the machine gunners were able to respond to these attacks and soon drove off the fighters. The two waist gunners stood up with their heads sticking out through the hole in the top of the fuselage to aim and fire their machine guns. The tail gunner had to shoot in short bursts because the recoil was actually causing the plane to turn. 

Allied P-51 fighters intercepted the All American as it crossed over the Channel and took one of the pictures shown. They also radioed to the base describing that the empennage was waving like a fish tail and that the plane would not make it and to send out boats to rescue the crew when they bailed out. The fighters stayed with the Fortress taking hand signals from Lt. Bragg and relaying them to the base. Lt. Bragg signaled that 5 parachutes and the spare had been "used" so five of the crew could not bail out. He made the decision that if they could not bail out safely, then he would stay with the plane and land it. 

Two and a half hours after being hit, the aircraft made its final turn to line up with the runway while it was still over 40 miles away. It descended into an emergency landing and a normal roll-out on its landing gear. 

When the ambulance pulled alongside, it was waved off because not a single member of the crew had been injured. No one could believe that the aircraft could still fly in such a condition. The Fortress sat placidly until the crew all exited through the door in the fuselage and the tail gunner had climbed down a ladder, at which time the entire rear section of the aircraft collapsed onto the ground. The rugged old bird had done its job.















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It looks like only the tail wheel collapsed -- tail still attached. eppur_se_muova Aug 2012 #1
The 20 mm nose cannon on a ME109 was like a buz saw. The prop even more so. leveymg Aug 2012 #2
The crew was amazing alright Plucketeer Aug 2012 #18
There are many stories like this... ewagner Aug 2012 #3
Rec! I had the HONOR of flying in a B-17 a few weeks ago.... Cooley Hurd Aug 2012 #4
Great video of a wonderful old bird. Thnx for that. leveymg Aug 2012 #5
Wow! Where did this take place? DinahMoeHum Aug 2012 #8
There are 10 B-17's left flying Major Nikon Aug 2012 #26
Looks like EAA in Oshkosh. Ellipsis Aug 2012 #28
Very Nice, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #13
Very cool! AllenVanAllen Aug 2012 #16
lovely. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #37
I like that the interior of the plane is not over restored Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #45
That's just an awesome story Mutt22 Aug 2012 #6
It was built by Boeing under government contract. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #7
I hate the silly embellishments. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #9
My dad flew 50 missions in WWII panader0 Aug 2012 #10
I wonder if your Dad knew my Dad... virgdem Aug 2012 #15
A friend of mine was a B-17 pilot in WWII Major Nikon Aug 2012 #27
ww2 turned us from an agrarian backwater datasuspect Aug 2012 #11
Great thread. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #12
"If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" A HERETIC I AM Aug 2012 #14
The pictures are quite famous, but I don't trust the story in the OP caraher Aug 2012 #17
You are Right, Sir, that the Text Is Incorrect In Many Particulars The Magistrate Aug 2012 #19
Definitely not England, unless there was a desert landing strip near the Dover Coast in 1943 leveymg Aug 2012 #20
It seems, among other inaccuracies, the plane was damaged after the bombs were dropped. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #21
Yeah. Some stories really don't need exaggeration. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #31
Well, when I was tracking down the source of this narrative... caraher Aug 2012 #34
The 'All American' bombardier is my uncle... sgsilvey Sep 2012 #40
Welcome to DU and thank you for sharing. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #41
You're seeing first hand why crews preferred the B-17 freethought Aug 2012 #22
Remarkable that plane could fly with one horizontal stabilizer... Octafish Aug 2012 #23
Have you a link to this? I'd like to send it on to my father. Thnks. uppityperson Aug 2012 #24
I received this via email.... saved the pics to photobucket... you should be able to 2on2u Aug 2012 #32
Built by women. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #25
Thanks for mentioning!! DearHeart Aug 2012 #33
Wow! Quite a story. My dad was co-pilot of a B-17 kskiska Aug 2012 #29
Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft econoclast Aug 2012 #30
Wow! Lugnut Aug 2012 #35
That you lugnut? Did you have that moniker in high school? Curious. 2on2u Aug 2012 #36
No. Not in high school. Lugnut Aug 2012 #38
Video tour of the inside of a B-29 ProudSon Aug 2012 #39
Treasure that. Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #44
german pilot malc55 Mar 2013 #42
sgsilvey only posted once here cyberswede Mar 2013 #43
Hello ~ malc55. Good luck finding what you are looking for at DU. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #46
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