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LARED

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6. Nonsense, what is wrote points to the need for Unions
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:23 AM
Aug 2012

to face reality. The old union model of strict work rules and work rules that create inflexibility and barriers to productivity in order to increase membership is broken and will not work in global market.

My point was that if union leadership worked a different model that promoted the best and most productive workforce and work rules they can better maintain high wages and benefits like management does at Cat for salary workers. If union leadership held members accountable and told worker they would not be supported for poor performance they would have better performance and pay. If union leadership worked to be competitive in a highly competitive global world they might survive.

As it is my 20 plus years of working in management in a manufacturing union environment tells me frontline union leadership fails to better the lives of the rank and file almost every time.

Caterpillar is near completion in building Ilsa Aug 2012 #1
Actually a very good article LARED Aug 2012 #2
Wow, really? Great job promoting Republican anti-Union propaganda. Zalatix Aug 2012 #4
Nonsense, what is wrote points to the need for Unions LARED Aug 2012 #6
What is nonsense is your persistent use of Republican spoon-fed CANARDS. Zalatix Aug 2012 #8
Here's some reality for you LARED Aug 2012 #14
And who defines "productivity"?.......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #32
Union leaders do not protect marginal workers at all cost. That is a lie!!! LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #9
I am simply telling my experience LARED Aug 2012 #11
Bullshit... GrantDem Aug 2012 #13
Teamsters, Chemical workers and a few other. nt LARED Aug 2012 #15
"Just once I would like to hear (or hear of) a steward or union leader tell a member to get their Brickbat Aug 2012 #16
And a free clue for you LARED Aug 2012 #18
What part of Federal law REQUIRING unions to represent............ socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #20
+1 GrantDem Aug 2012 #22
And when the Union clearly states that " we expect high performers" Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #21
Your last sentence says it all......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #25
+++ Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #34
And there we have it. You want the unions to do YOUR job. ret5hd Aug 2012 #30
Your 20 years in management says it all cap Aug 2012 #39
I was a Union Steward at one time Bluzmann57 Aug 2012 #27
What you remember hearing and what was actually stated are entirely different. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #31
I was a job steward for over 12 years susanr516 Aug 2012 #40
I used to live with a guy kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #42
And I will relate my experience as a shop steward, in one instance concerning work rules Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #43
You won't hear if you don't listen. hay rick Aug 2012 #45
current market and business models have destroyed the middle class in this country, in South America sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #46
People who promote that lie always think they can suck the bosses ass better than everybody else NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #37
I find anti-union propaganda and lies... 99Forever Aug 2012 #10
I agree nt LARED Aug 2012 #12
Your anti-union bullshit should get you TS'd RetroLounge Aug 2012 #19
+1 leftstreet Aug 2012 #35
I agree with that statement 100% NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #38
Your post is factually correct. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #44
+1 Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #47
Ummmmm excuse me Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #29
***U.S. Leads Productivity Ranking; China Gains***. Your whole schtick is bankster bullpoopie. Zorra Aug 2012 #33
it is important to remember one thing dordtrecht5 Oct 2012 #49
What you are suggesting seems it would have the great potential jp11 Aug 2012 #36
I believe that Caterpillar's tactic is called "Boulwarism” after a GE negotiator in the late 1940's. pampango Aug 2012 #3
I'm sure you'd be happier if they moved the jobs to China. Zalatix Aug 2012 #5
sounds like the machinist's union needs to goto muncie leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #7
+1 GrantDem Aug 2012 #23
Exactly. By confining this to one plant........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #26
recommended. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #17
Here's a little more militant take than the Washington Post.......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #24
This article helps, but dordtrecht5 Oct 2012 #48
The problem is that since reagan I believe the union vote has been split between republicans and still_one Aug 2012 #28
Now THIS should be the stuff of populist campaigning Populist_Prole Aug 2012 #41
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