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109. No and I didn't intend to say it was the same thing. What I'm implying is that the writers

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 05:34 PM

Mar 2018

and the producers and money folk think All in the Family was a hit so they intended to use that formula. Not realizing that the actor and the role mean something in this situation.
Formula is the stuff made of television. Television productions will run a formula into the ground to the point where there is no longer a formula just a stain of its former existence.

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Why do they make Jackie out to be a cartoon version of a liberal on Roseanne ? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 OP

Jackie's character has always been like that. B2G Mar 2018 #1

Except in the previous iteration of the series Roseanne was liberal too. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #6

I can't wait to see what her black daughter-in-law calls her EffieBlack Mar 2018 #8

For the first installment, yes. B2G Mar 2018 #13

She will insist on it showing her support for Trump...that is the entire point to normalize Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

Haven't watched but read that her part's been cast. Hortensis Mar 2018 #57

Darlene, Roseanne's daughter. B2G Mar 2018 #59

Good, thanks. She'd have to be, right? Hortensis Mar 2018 #60

Oh absolutely. B2G Mar 2018 #63

Did you watch the original series? B2G Mar 2018 #11

Why would I watch DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #15

Maybe so you can discuss it intelligently? B2G Mar 2018 #17

How do DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #19

I am able to separate the show from the actor. B2G Mar 2018 #23

That's okay DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #25

Unless youre a Nielson family, cwydro Mar 2018 #46

See post #56 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #58

:) I had no intention of watching Roseanne either, Hortensis Mar 2018 #64

The Cosbys existed to portray African Americans as successful an ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #67

Yes, it was. And similarly the Obamas lived their lives Hortensis Mar 2018 #75

Yeah, the Huxtables' materialism could be grating misanthrope Mar 2018 #110

The unintended consequence of that show misanthrope Mar 2018 #108

Good post RandomAccess Mar 2018 #102

Has there been a reboot of The Cosby Show in this mid-term year, to push a candidate? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #141

You're in the wrong decade jumptheshadow Mar 2018 #100

I think Nielsen samples are still the method for calculating ratings and determining ad rates AdamGG Apr 2018 #132

It's evolving jumptheshadow Apr 2018 #138

In this case the lead driver of the show is having a public mental breakdown, so its hard for bettyellen Mar 2018 #69

bettyellen, more than one poster on this thread has attacked me in defense of Roseanne Barr. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #70

People get weirdly passionate about their entertainment, dont they? bettyellen Mar 2018 #73

I have tried to limit my criticism to Roseanne and not the people here who like her. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #74

I saw that. No one can accuse these fans of keeping it classy I guess. bettyellen Mar 2018 #77

Roseanne has been making these tweets for a long time. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #78

Yeah, I think like a lot of his supporters she likes to get a reaction from liberals... bettyellen Mar 2018 #79

That is a lot of the appeal of Trump too. They like him because he upsets liberals. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #81

It is beyond me how anyone can like Roseanne. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #85

You will get no argument from me. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #86

Her original show and her 80's stand-up were good AdamGG Apr 2018 #133

I saw some videos of her working with Rodney Dangerfield. I thought they were good. I Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #136

Exactly, Bettyellen. There is no separation Cha Mar 2018 #124

Like too many in the MSM media (like the NYT) she is trolling us for clicks and Im not falling for bettyellen Mar 2018 #126

In that case the Deplorables will boycott the show for being liberal. lunatica Mar 2018 #71

The show suggested that Trump saved their house...how is that liberal? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #84

You do understand that the show is one loooong advertisement for Trump in a mid-term year? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #144

Disgusting. Kath2 Mar 2018 #27

I wouldn't even say that about Deplorables. It's just silly, DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #28

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #140

She called Huma Abedin a "filthy Nazi wh--e" and said Islam was a " rape pedo culture." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #142

OMG. She's worse than I thought. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #143

I don't watch the show but I saw a photo...... CatMor Mar 2018 #2

She was wearing it to hack off Roseanne. B2G Mar 2018 #5

That was probably the wrong way to do it.... CatMor Mar 2018 #16

Check out post 38. cwydro Mar 2018 #52

Lol. Consider the source. B2G Mar 2018 #55

No. I saw the trailer. Jackie was wild eyed, acting crazy, while Roseanne was seated Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #145

Yeah I didnt like that Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #3

"They" pander to 18 million #fakepresident cult followers Cary Mar 2018 #4

yep...and those who want to be 'fair'. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #116

Not surprised ornotna Mar 2018 #7

Except she's the sane one on the series. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #9

Actually her daughter Darla is the sanest. B2G Mar 2018 #20

You clearly have not seen the show. Tipperary Mar 2018 #47

I will be the bigger poster... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #56

Who? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #146

Roseanne is depicted as everywoman. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #148

No, she's not. She's portrayed as a "sensible, truth-oriented Trumper." There aren't many of those.. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #150

I'm a bit confused. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #151

Exactly. Propaganda. A fake advertisement for Trump. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #152

Roseanne and her vile tweets are annoying and disgusting. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #153

Make no mistake: It will have an effect. That's one of the purposes of it, so says Roseanne. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #154

"I don't know why I bother..." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #155

This isn't the only thing. Posters are positing wacko RW "alternative theories," & Democrats Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #156

There are people here suggesting Trump ended sex trafficking and/or Pizzagate was real ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #157

ABC must be making money off of the show. Are there any sitcoms that parody the Trump crowd on TV? jalan48 Mar 2018 #10

ABC is making money off the show and making money off trump mucifer Mar 2018 #12

I agree. That's what it about. jalan48 Mar 2018 #22

And Roseanne herself is getting her huge tax break mucifer Mar 2018 #24

Ever heard of SNL? B2G Mar 2018 #14

I always thought of SNL as more late night TV. Isn't Rosanne prime time? I was thinking more of that jalan48 Mar 2018 #21

Do you watch Shameless ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #29

Did you note Darlenes daughter is from Shameless? nolabear Mar 2018 #31

i haven't seen that one-thanks. I'll try and find it on Hulu. jalan48 Mar 2018 #34

Will and Grace leftynyc Mar 2018 #41

Thanks, I haven't seen it but I have heard of it. Does it put down the conservative Trump crowd? jalan48 Mar 2018 #42

They've been making fun leftynyc Apr 2018 #134

Will and grace do it constantly. Tipperary Mar 2018 #48

Thanks. I'm going to watch it. jalan48 Mar 2018 #49

The same reason they make all characters to be cartoon versions of real people. former9thward Mar 2018 #18

She's the Meathead to Archie (Rosanne). Lint Head Mar 2018 #26

The analogy would hold up... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #103

Good point. Carroll O'Connor was a liberal. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #107

No and I didn't intend to say it was the same thing. What I'm implying is that the writers Lint Head Mar 2018 #109

Not at all. But nice try. Archie's views were made fun of. Meathead was the sensible one. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #147

. Lint Head Apr 2018 #158

Because its comedy? nolabear Mar 2018 #30

Nice to see someone gets it. B2G Mar 2018 #32

Im a huge fan of jesters and holy fools. nolabear Mar 2018 #33

... Kali Mar 2018 #106

Could you cite the rule in comedy that mandates liberal characters have to appear unhinged ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #37

Comedy is about defying rules. I only know one. nolabear Mar 2018 #39

She did not appear unhinged. She was her usual Jackie character. Tipperary Mar 2018 #44

See post #58 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #68

I watched the show. Unlike you. Tipperary Mar 2018 #98

"Did she refuse you an autograph at some point? " DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #99

Since you seem to enjoy the show, and I don't watch GusBob Mar 2018 #40

I think its a caricature too. nolabear Mar 2018 #87

Thank you for your reply GusBob Mar 2018 #122

Good grief. It's a COMEDY, not a documentary RandomAccess Mar 2018 #105

Dude I am just referencing things I read posted on Du GusBob Mar 2018 #121

Hang in there Gus. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #127

Hear, hear Puzzledtraveller Mar 2018 #45

You said that perfectly. Tipperary Mar 2018 #50

It's propaganda couched in comedic terms. It's pro-Trump propaganda, intended to advertise... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #149

Sitcoms by their very nature are cartoonish Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #35

Roseanne is a pathetic excuse for a human. She does not portray conservatives in a good light. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #36

Ive noticed that as well BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #38

Oooh. Insulting those who disagree with you. cwydro Mar 2018 #51

Im sorry you feel that way. BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #62

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #66

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #65

You seem obsessed with this. I missed out on all this as it began last week, but I see you Tipperary Mar 2018 #43

And even less on various primaries underway Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #53

But Roseanne seems to be the hot topic for this op. Tipperary Mar 2018 #96

I think there are so many Roseanne threads because it... LAS14 Mar 2018 #97

Now you are talking about me "behind my back" DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #112

See post #56 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #61

Because, of course, progressives can only think about one particular issue at a time... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #104

Hmmmm DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #117

Sitcoms usually have uninspired stereotypes for characters. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #54

Because it's a comedy. Roseanne is just as over the top. Dan and Darleen hold it steady. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #72

Who knew an Obama hating Trumpkin could engender so much love here BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #76

I am reluctant to speak ill DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #80

If I could Id try for a real honest conversation re that. nolabear Mar 2018 #90

I don't like Roseanne's views as expressed by her vile tweets. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #91

There's a difference between those who like her and those who like the show. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #93

If someone said she is very successful would it be fair to assume that person liked her ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #94

Makes sense to me. We should be able to talk about those things. nolabear Mar 2018 #95

It's not as much a "progressive board" as it is a "Democrat's board" misanthrope Mar 2018 #111

It's a Democratic Board. Our Democratic Principles are Cha Mar 2018 #125

Youre making so much more out of it. nolabear Mar 2018 #89

Shes a fucking traitor. Used to be on the left. liberalnarb Mar 2018 #101

Yeah this one trips me right out GusBob Mar 2018 #123

Would you say Roseanne has fans in the strangest of places ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #128

Check out this now deleted tweet DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #130

Because it is a hit job on Liberals as well as an attempt to normalize Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #82

I will do an impromptu poll. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #83

We wore it to the march...haven't had it on except for the other march since then. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #113

So would be it fair for me to conclude it isn't part of your everyday attire ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #114

No, I don't go out and deliberately make trouble. I am a "I hate what you say but will defend Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #137

Why would anyone watch Roseanne? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #88

the shows just as crappy the second time around samnsara Mar 2018 #92

Roseanne today is the Archie Bunker of the 70s benld74 Mar 2018 #118

Apples and oranges BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #119

Caroll O'Connor hated his Archie Bunker character DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #120

the character was also portrayed as a a joke and bigot JI7 Apr 2018 #135

Yeah, that too. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #139

Because The Writing Is Terrible ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2018 #129

I am not advocating a boycott of Roseanne DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #131

She was Roseanne's foil during the original show customerserviceguy Apr 2018 #159