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It's her turn.

Money trumps peace.

http://firedoglake.com/2011/06/03/hillary-clinton-hosts-iraq-opportunities-party-for-war-profiteers/

'Do the orders still stand?' Censoring MINETA Testimony Evidence 9-11 Commission Was Cover-Up Job.



Dr. Philip Zelikow and the 9-11 Commission edited Secretary of Transportation Mineta's story. From Wikipedia:

During the September 11, 2001 attacks, Mineta issued an order to ground all civilian aircraft traffic for the first time in U.S. history.

Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission about his experience in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as American Airlines flight 77 approached the Pentagon was not included in the 9/11 Commission Report.<3> In one colloquy testified by Mineta, the vice president refers to orders concerning the plane approaching the Pentagon:



There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

– Norman Mineta, (4)



Commissioner Lee Hamilton queried if the order was to shoot down the plane, to which Mineta replied that he did not know that specifically.(4)

Mineta's testimony to the Commission on Flight 77 differs rather significantly from the account provided in the January 22, 2002 edition of the Washington Post, as reported by Bob Woodward and Dan Balz in their series "10 Days in September"



“ 9:32 a.m.
The Vice President in Washington: Underground, in Touch With Bush

Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta, summoned by the White House to the bunker, was on an open line to the Federal Aviation Administration operations center, monitoring Flight 77 as it hurtled toward Washington, with radar tracks coming every seven seconds. Reports came that the plane was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out-until word reached the bunker that there had been an explosion at the Pentagon.

Mineta shouted into the phone to Monte Belger at the FAA: "Monte, bring all the planes down." It was an unprecedented order-there were 4,546 airplanes in the air at the time. Belger, the FAA's acting deputy administrator, amended Mineta's directive to take into account the authority vested in airline pilots. "We're bringing them down per pilot discretion," Belger told the secretary.

"(Expletive) pilot discretion," Mineta yelled back. "Get those (expletive) planes down."

Sitting at the other end of the table, Cheney snapped his head up, looked squarely at Mineta and nodded in agreement.

—Dan Balz and Bob Woodward, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42754-20...



This same article also reports that the conversation between Cheney and the aide occurred at 9:55 am, about 30 minutes later than the time Mineta cited (9:26 am) during his testimony to the 9/11 Commission.

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Mineta

Here's Sec. Mineta's actual testimony on YouTube:



It was left out of the report.

Good riddance.

Here's the last thing I have to explain to you.

It's not about taste: Killing children is wrong.

Isn't that what Noam Chomsky wrote?

Chomsky, FWIU, says there was no difference between Eisenhower and Kennedy and Johnson. But there was, take Indonesia, where JFK intervened with the Netherlands and its former colony:

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1962/10/11/page/14/article/kennedy-move-averted-war-says-general

Know your ASSHATS.

The Real Asshats





Ted Kennedy survived Richard Nixon's Plots

By Don Fulsom

In September 1972, Nixon’s continued political fear, personal loathing, and jealously of Kennedy led him to plant a spy in Kennedy’s Secret Service detail.

The mole Nixon selected for the Kennedy camp was already being groomed. He was a former agent from his Nixon’s vice presidential detail, Robert Newbrand—a man so loyal he once pledged he would do anything—even kill—for Nixon.

The President was most interested in learning about the Sen. Kennedy’s sex life. He wanted, more than anything, stated Haldeman in The Ends of Power, to “catch (Kennedy) in the sack with one of his babes.”

In a recently transcribed tape of a September 8, 1972 talk among the President and aides Bob Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield, Nixon asks whether Secret Service chief James Rowley would appoint Newbrand to head Kennedy’s detail:

Haldeman: He's to assign Newbrand.

President Nixon: Does he understand that he's to do that?

Butterfield: He's effectively already done it. And we have a full force assigned, 40 men.

Haldeman: I told them to put a big detail on him (unclear).

President Nixon: A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes. (Laughter obscures mixed voices.)

President Nixon: Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.

Haldeman: And Amanda Burden (one of Kennedy’s alleged girlfriends) can't be trusted. (Unclear.) You never know what she might do. (Unclear.)

Haldeman then assures the President that Newbrand “will do anything that I tell him to … He really will. And he has come to me twice and absolutely, sincerely said, "With what you've done for me and what the President's done for me, I just want you to know, if you want someone killed, if you want anything else done, any way, any direction …"

President Nixon: The thing that I (unclear) is this: We just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.

Haldeman: That's right.

President Nixon: He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and (Newbrand) should pick the detail, too.


Toward the end of this conversation, Nixon exclaims that Newbrand’s spying “(is) going to be fun,” and Haldeman responds: “Newbrand will just love it.”

CONTINUED...

http://surftofind.com/tedkennedy



Reagan obstruct justice when Jim Garrison investigated the New Orleans connections to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Then-governor of California, Reagan denied Garrison's request to extradite a suspect in his case, Edgar Eugene Bradley. Some investigators believe disruptors within his office fed Garrison a false lead -- one Eugene Hale Brading. The thing is, Braden was arrested in Dealey Plaza.

So, remember: Nixon and Reagan couldn't give a damn about the Kennedy brothers, liberal Democrats. Nixon and Reagan devoted their public "service" to helping end the New Deal and install the New War State. Those two are worse than asshats. They, and those who think like them, are un-democratic.

Claims of Saudi hand in September 11 attacks hang over Obama's speech



Important points to remember from an Australian, via BuzzFlash:



Claims of Saudi hand in September 11 attacks hang over Obama's speech

Paul McGeough
Sydney Morning Herald (Australia), September 12, 2014

Washington: It was ironic that the launch of Barack Obama's war on terror coincided with the 13th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, doubly so because it meant the president's pitch for Saudi Arabia to join his global coalition coincided with renewed attention on claims that Washington was suppressing evidence of Saudi complicity in the strikes on key US cities.

Initially suppressed by the Bush administration, and still kept under wraps by Obama, 28 pages redacted from a Joint Congressional Inquiry into the attacks are locked in a secure underground store beneath Congress.

The New Yorker magazine quotes Massachusetts Democrat Stephen Lynch on the document offering direct evidence of the complicity "on the part of Saudi individuals and entities in Al-Qaeda's attacks on America". But the same report quotes North Carolina Republican Walter Jones' very different take on a document that he, like Lynch, claims to have read - "it's about the Bush administration and its relationship with the Saudis".

A third member of Congress is quoted on the document providing "very disturbing" evidence of Saudi government support for the September 11 hijackers, most of whom were Saudi. He argues: "the real question is whether it was sanctioned at the royal-family level or beneath that, and whether these leads were followed through?"

Well yes … and no. A subsequent investigation, the so-called 9/11 Commission, looked into the allegations and, commission director Philip Zelikow told The New Yorker his investigators could not substantiate what he described as "wild accusations that needed to be checked out … an agglomeration of preliminary, unvetted reports".

CONTINUED...

http://www.smh.com.au/world/claims-of-saudi-hand-in-september-11-attacks-hang-over-obamas-speech-20140912-10fvvb.html



Who are we -- as in We the People of the United States -- really protecting by making war without end?

War is Money

So...it's on. Since Nov. 22, 1963.

Harold Pinter understood what you are talking about, Puzzledtraveller....

Profits Soar As Pentagon Leans on Private Corporations for Special Ops



Profits Soar As Pentagon Leans on Private Corporations for Special Ops

New research shows how US Special Operations Command is outsourcing many of its most sensitive information activities, including interrogation, drone and psychological operations

byJon Queally, staff writer
CommonDreams, Sept. 9, 2014

Private military contractors are reaping billions of dollars in profitable rewards from the U.S. government's global network of clandestine counter-terrorism and other overseas operations, according to a new report that examines the high-levels of integration between for-profit corporations and the Pentagon's global military and surveillance apparatus.

The new report—titled (PDF at link) US Special Operations Command Contracting: Data-Mining the Public Record —written by researcher Crofton Black and commissioned by the U.K.-based Remote Control Project, shows that "corporations are integrated into some of the most sensitive aspects" of operations conducted by the U.S. Special Operations Command (or USSOCOM). Those activities, according to the report include: flying drones and overseeing target acquisition, facilitating communications between forward operating locations and central command hubs, interrogating prisoners, translating captured material, and managing the flow of information between regional populations and the US military.

"(USSOCOM) is outsourcing many of its most sensitive information activities, including interrogation, drone and psychological operations," explained Black in a statement. "Remote warfare is increasingly being shaped by the private sector.”

And Caroline Donnellan, manager of the Remote Control project, said, “This report is distinctive in that it mines data from the generally classified world of US special operations. It reveals the extent to which remote control activity is expanding in all its facets, with corporations becoming more and more integrated into very sensitive elements of warfare. The report’s findings are of concern given the challenges remote warfare poses for effective investigation, transparency, accountability and oversight. This highlights the difficulties in assessing the impact and consequences of remote control activity.”

Reviewing its contents for The Intercept on Monday, journalist Ryan Gallagher observed how the unprecedented research documents troubling ways in which these private corporations have engaged in overseas operations. Describing it as a "corporate bonanza" for these contractor, Gallagher reports:

USSOCOM tendered a $1.5 billion contract that required support with “Psychological Operations related to intelligence and information operations.” Prospective contractors were told they would have to provide “military and civilian persuasive communications planning, produce commercial quality products for unlimited foreign public broadcast, and develop lines of persuasion, themes, and designs for multi-media products.” The contract suggested that aim of these “persuasion” operations was to “engage local populations and counter nefarious influences” in parts of Europe and Africa.

A separate document related to the same contract noted that one purpose of the effort was to conduct “market research” of al-Qaida and its affiliates in Libya, Tunisia, Mali, Northern Nigeria, and Somalia. Four American companies eventually won the $1.5 billion contract: Tennessee-based Jacobs Technology and Virginia-based Booz Allen Hamilton, CACI-WGI, and SRA International.

Notably, while some 3,000 contractors provided service in some capacity to USSOCOM, just eight of the contractors earned more than 50 percent of the $13 billion total identified in Black’s report. Those were: Lockheed Martin, L-3 Communications, Boeing, Harris Corporation, Jacobs Engineering Group, MA Federal, Raytheon, and ITT Corporation.


Read the executive summary of the report (PDF) here. Read the full report here.

This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License

OP from CommonDreams has even more links:

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/09/09/profits-soar-pentagon-leans-private-corporations-special-ops
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