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Rhiannon12866

(208,028 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 08:45 PM Mar 26

NY Judge imposes 3rd gag order on Donald Trump to protect witnesses, jurors, staff & others - Glenn Kirschner



New York State court judge Juan Merchan just imposed a gag order on Donald Trump. This is the 3rd gag order judges have felt compelled to issue for Trump to protect witnesses, jurors, court and prosecutorial staff and family members.

What does this say about the way our criminal justice system deals with a dangerous defendant who in on pretrial release in four felony cases? - Glenn Kirschner - 03/26/2024.

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NY Judge imposes 3rd gag order on Donald Trump to protect witnesses, jurors, staff & others - Glenn Kirschner (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Mar 26 OP
This is no coincidence... LetMyPeopleVote Mar 26 #1
you are right riversedge Mar 26 #3
Wow! Excellent! Rhiannon12866 Mar 26 #4
The Judge has every right to issue the gag order BlueKota Mar 26 #2
Exactly! "Fines" have done nothing, even twice in the E. Jean Carroll case Rhiannon12866 Mar 26 #5
At this point I think the risk of inciting them has to be taken, and they need to be arrested BlueKota Mar 26 #6
I couldn't agree more! Rhiannon12866 Mar 26 #7
Judges only issue a gag order when their staff or family are threatened. Irish_Dem Mar 27 #8

Rhiannon12866

(208,028 posts)
4. Wow! Excellent!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:00 PM
Mar 26

Not only should TFG be gagged against threatening judges and court personnel, but Cannon's "minders" need to pay a lot closer attention! And didn't he sign agreement to be "detained" if he persisted in his attacks??

BlueKota

(1,942 posts)
2. The Judge has every right to issue the gag order
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 08:58 PM
Mar 26

like the previous ones, but if DT breaks it, will anyone actually be able to ennforce consequences against him? Without that aren't these orders just words on paper? Fines haven't worked so far

Rhiannon12866

(208,028 posts)
5. Exactly! "Fines" have done nothing, even twice in the E. Jean Carroll case
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:04 PM
Mar 26

He needs to be "detained" as the agreement he signed for Judge Chutkan. But others have said that such a move could further incite his deluded "supporters."

BlueKota

(1,942 posts)
6. At this point I think the risk of inciting them has to be taken, and they need to be arrested
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:40 PM
Mar 26

if they try anything themselves. It's kind of like Roosevelt said the only thing to fear is fear itself. They're going to try to cause trouble at sometime point any way. We can't just let him or them keep breaking the law just because we are afraid of how they will react. If they see they are winning the intimidation game, they are just going to keep relying on and escalating their efforts even more anyway. My Dad always told me if a dog scents your fear it is more likely to bite you, because it triggers their own defenses.

Plus in my way of thinking the more of them who violate the law, and end up behind bars now, the less of them there are to cause even more trouble in November.

Rhiannon12866

(208,028 posts)
7. I couldn't agree more!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:51 PM
Mar 26

Hundreds of violent insurrectionists have been charged, tried, convicted and jailed and more are arrested and prosecuted every day. But the chief problem is still out there, TFG may be "out on bail," but he's still free to hold his "rallies" where he persists in his attacks in his constant efforts to incite. As their dangerous "leader," he should have followed his violent "supporters" to pre-trial incarceration long ago. And it makes no sense that some have been in jail for a couple of years, yet he has yet to face trial!

Irish_Dem

(49,128 posts)
8. Judges only issue a gag order when their staff or family are threatened.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 27

That is what it takes to get them to do something.
The other staff and their families are not that important.

Glenn makes a good point here.

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