Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMike Bloomberg said trans rights are about "some man wearing a dress" using a locker room with girls
He said that things should be run like in prison: "drop your trousers, you go this way, you go that way."
By Alex Bollinger Friday, February 7, 2020
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/02/mike-bloomberg-said-trans-rights-man-wearing-dress-using-locker-room-girls/?fbclid=IwAR23gEv-BEVfCQnrIph-ME2wf-Eu8J3CVr5Ti-MlfNm1BesRAYzXu7JansQ
I dont know how many of you are familiar with the bathroom issue in the United States, he said during a panel discussion at Oxford University, which is in the United Kingdom. Debates on transgender rights regularly appear in mainstream media in the U.K. and are perhaps more heated than in the U.S. Anybody know what Im talking about?
If you want to know if somebody is a good salesman, give them the job of going to the Midwest and picking a town and selling to that town the concept that some man wearing a dress should be in a locker room with their daughter, he said. If you can sell that, you can sell anything.
The idea of transgender women using bathrooms and other facilities with underage girls with the implication that trans women will molest children has been one of the most consistently used attacks on transgender rights by the religious right.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Quixote1818
(28,992 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bucolic_frolic
(43,368 posts)That's a good way of putting it. It means no harm, just a bit uppity and tone deaf. Not sure if that will magnify as an issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeState
(10,585 posts)Trans people are real and stigma effects the community greatly - no matter the source of that stigma.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)However, the underlying point being made is sadly not far from reality.
And I'd add that this is just a continuation of the arguments against allowing gay people to teach our children that were popular among these same assholes in the 80's and 90's.
Back then it was you couldn't let gays and lesbians be PE coaches cause they'd "get their jollies off teh children in the locker room!!?!!"
Same bullshit argument ...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Are uneducated on these issues. Thats why Trump loves the uneducated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)and I say this from experience in the midwest. I am not trans but I know many trans people. There are ignorant people and some do shitty things but lots of people are learning, and honest, open conversations are happening.
While Trumpian backlash is real, and dangerous, it is unfair to claim that the whole region is ignorant or not being educated on this topic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)And I have many friends spread throughout Ohio, Indiana and the midwest. I know them well.
Sorry, but the people there are more conservative (racist and sexist) then the west and north east. And more of them would rather go for slogans (trump) then educate themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sarisataka
(18,821 posts)Your preferred candidate is from the midwest.
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squirecam
(2,706 posts)And she isnt racist or sexist.
Doesnt mean the red areas she wins consistently are not though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsyltucky
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,361 posts)"Federal law under the Obama administration required that the question of where to house transgender prisoners be considered on a case-by-case basis and that serious consideration be given to a transgender inmates own views with respect to his or her own safety, guidelines that were rolled back in the Trump administration.
According to Logo, Bloomberg promised last week to bring back those Obama era guidelines.
In a statement, Bloombergs campaign said he is serious about wanting to pass the Equality Act to ensure transgender people have access to affirming healthcare and working to end the crisis of violence against transgender women.
Mike is running to defeat Donald Trump and reverse the many policies he has implemented that attack the rights of the transgender community, the statement said."
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/02/mike-bloomberg-said-trans-rights-man-wearing-dress-using-locker-room-girls/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MLAA
(17,340 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)actually does interviews and debates and town halls rather than just buying ads.
Controversial police tactics
Crackdown on Occupy Wall Street
survellience of Muslim Americans
clashes with labor unions
comparing the Federation of Teachers to the NRA
huge spike in homelessness during his tenure
pension cuts
support of Simpson/Bowles cat food commission
Supported raising taxes on everyone - not just the rich - since he believes that's class warfare
Raising retirement age to 69
And just because we haven't heard this chant for a long time since Sanders released his taxes . . . "Where's your taxes Mike?"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(42,021 posts)Thats disgusting. Oh wait, then I actually read the article.
Bloomberg didnt stick with the birth certificate as the standard of determining ones gender. He proceeded to say it depends on what a prison guard sees when you drop your trousers.
You know, I will say in our prison system in New York City we have to have the policy when you walk in, you know, drop your trousers, you go this way, you go that way. Thats it, he said, adding that prison is a practical case of when you have to make a decision, implying that there is no way to tell what someones gender identity is other than examining genitalia.
Federal law under the Obama administration required that the question of where to house transgender prisoners be considered on a case-by-case basis and that serious consideration be given to a transgender inmates own views with respect to his or her own safety, guidelines that were rolled back in the Trump administration.
According to Logo, Bloomberg promised last week to bring back those Obama era guidelines.
In a statement, Bloombergs campaign said he is serious about wanting to pass the Equality Act to ensure transgender people have access to affirming healthcare and working to end the crisis of violence against transgender women.
Edit to add, Bloomberg is almost my bottom pick if I were picking, and this is him doing tough guy double speak.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden