It's been real guys, but I think I'm done here.

[smokey nj]

[A-Schwarzenegger]

1. stay

[SamKnause]

2. ????

[MissDeeds]

3. I don't know what happened

but please don't go. Take some time out if you need it, but your voice is important. I hope you'll reconsider.

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. ????

[AtomicKitten]

5. If it's because of the vote for group host, please don't go.

I did not vote in that poll because I worried something like this would happen.

Please don't go. Not over this.

[smokey nj]

6. No, it has nothing to do with the vote for the group host. I didn't even vote for myself.

It has to do with belonging to a group of supporters for a candidate where trolling is endorsed by alleged supporters. Bernie has my complete support, I just don't think DU is the place for me to do it.

[mmonk]

9. I would think trolling for like minded support isn't trolling in the negative sense.

[AtomicKitten]

10. Minutes after this group was created yesterday,

... a particularly obnoxious interloper appeared to exploit the fact that no hosts had been put in place yet. And we got that shit deleted and the person ix-nayed in spite of the breach.

Honestly, I cannot stomach some that are allowed to pollute for instance the Populist Reform group so, if I'm hearing you correctly, I share that annoyance.

Please step away from your computer for a bit, regroup, and come back. Bernie needs every pair of hands on deck we can muster, and yours matter.

Cheers.

[smokey nj]

13. There is another one who is more subtle here now.

I'm not one for GBCW threads, but I've been active in the group and was a potential hosts so I figured it was necessary.

[Agschmid]

16. You still are a likely host.

Do you want me to remove you from the poll?

I'm pretty sure everyone listed will be a host.

[smokey nj]

18. Do what you feel is necessary.

[Agschmid]

22. I'm going to leave you in the running, and I think you shouldn't leave.

[darkangel218]

38. She doesnt want to leave because of the hosting poll.

[Agschmid]

40. I know.

[darkangel218]

41. .

[A-Schwarzenegger]

17. If posters like the mad one don't get the banhammer when a host appears

I'll be the next gone.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Yep, I saw that.

I never set foot in the HRC group. I don't understand why some of her supporters think it's fine to just squat in this group when it's crystal clear from their posts elsewhere where they stand. There are over 50 people banned from the HRC forum. If it were up to me, I'd give them one warning here and then BOOM they'd be gone.

[smokey nj]

23. Nor have I, and I think it's reasonable to ask for the same courtesy here.

[AtomicKitten]

36. you are absolutely correct

[leveymg]

32. One of the reasons the HRC group has so many problems is their total intolerance of difference.

There are probably more people banned than active members inside those walls. The Barack Obama forum is almost as insular. Let that be a warning to anyone who might want to put a lid on criticism and dissent within other candidate groups. If anyone's post within the Bernie Forum upsets you, let a jury decide, just like on the rest of this site.

[AtomicKitten]

34. Agreed.

The jury did a fine job on the thread I referenced above: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128044

[Agschmid]

37. Wow, we are on a roll today, agree as well.

Bernie has been good for us!

[GeorgeGist]

63. My ignore list did too.

[frylock]

58. Proud member of the Banned from HRC group here..

banned from the BOG as well. In both instances for rather innocuous comments.

[MissDeeds]

60. Agree

"There is another one who is more subtle here now".

Yes there is. Some of us see through this and hope it will be dealt with.

[MissDeeds]

46. Yes!

I got into a debate with a certain active poster here a week or so ago about Bernie. This individual took exception with nearly every positive statement about Sen. Sanders. I was appalled to see this poster here, claiming to be a Sanders supporter and putting up many posts within minutes of the announcement that Bernie is running.

Last night I posted that we need to be cautious about who we trust here and look closely at their previous posts. I really hate to think that something like this could infiltrate DU, but the evidence speaks for itself.

[AtomicKitten]

56. Agreed.

Check this shit out: The first three are &^*%$# HRC supporters! WTF! Is there a reason they can't respect this group with their absence? I never set foot in the HRC group.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12801150

[MissDeeds]

57. Yep

And the one I was talking about is among them!

[Cheese Sandwich]

7. I read your posts. You seem cool to me.

You're an outstanding trollfighter with a heart of gold.

Be cool and stay!

[darkangel218]

39. +1

[Puglover]

8. If you are leaving because of the exchange

you had in my OP please don't.

If we had hosts (which will be soon) I am fairly confidant that ST would be about 1/2 as long as it is.

Disruption comes in many different forms. Dragging a point out for 52 ponderous snarky posts with emoticans and "hmmmm's" is IMHO trolling in a safe haven group.

[Puglover]

26. And that would be why I did not engage.

Right wrong or not I will not respond to folks who are consistently rude. On DU or in real life.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

27. Get a host, BAM, solved.

[Agschmid]

28. I've PM'ed Skinner now...

It will happen soon.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

29. Thanks.

[Agschmid]

30. In the poll thread I posted what I sent.

I think it's highly likely all those folks (plus potentially some more) end up as hosts.

[Capt. Obvious]

31. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:25 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

That person is among the top 10 most annoying posters on DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=1015

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Call out of another DU'er. This kind of post isn't fair. Yes this is a protected group but this kind of call out is not something that should be protected. And don't say it's not a call out because there is no name, it takes about 10 seconds to figure out who they are talking about.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:33 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It actually took me about 20 seconds to figure out who it was and that comment is spot on.

I only got to see who it was because jury duty disables your ignore list.



Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. Oh, i deleted it thinking the jury was still out, but

now I see. Thanks. With this alert of theirs,
they just moved up to the top 5 most annoying posters on DU.

[Zorra]

51. Heh...

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[A-Schwarzenegger]

61. Wrong one, but

the right one is gone, too.

[Capt. Obvious]

62. Oh that is wonderful

I'm shocked it took so long.

[marym625]

11. If it's the vote

I am sorry. I honestly thought it was silly to do it that way. You are bound to upset someone.

I just went for the two I know best. That was all it was. I am not anywhere near as familiar with you or the others.

Please don't go

[smokey nj]

15. No mary, it wasn't the vote. I didn't even vote for myself.

[marym625]

20. Well I just changed my vote to you

So you have to stay

[aspirant]

21. Why

If it is the host thing, nothing is set in stone yet.

After the first one I would like to see anyone who has the desire to volunteer to be designated as a host. Why should we have winners and losers when all Bernie enthusiasts are equal winners.

If we have 20 hosts, so what, better to cover our threads

This host thingee has got to be stripped bare of the power motive and everyone should be Bernie team equals

If Autumn is elected ,I hope she surrounds herself with all the valuable host volunteers and advisers that come forth to serve.

[smokey nj]

24. Not the host thing at all. I didn't even vote for myself.

[aspirant]

45. There are people who will stand with you here

This is the exact point I was making in the candidate thread.

We don't need this nonsense, it has disturbed you emotionally and now you want to leave when we need everyone we can muster.

Anyone who thinks this kind of debate is helpful to our cause and our positive energies is not our friend.

We're in for the fight of our lives and anyone who stands in our way should be removed.

Please reconsider

[Agschmid]

25. I don't think that there is really a power structure.

We are just doing it this way because that's what Skinner asked us to do.

[aspirant]

42. No "power structure"

Host #1,2,3,4,5 with a chain of command from 1 down.

You agreed with the Mad one when one of our own was being bullied, shame on you.

Why did you feel it necessary to interject your opinion when your only the pollster, nothing more.

We are supposed to stand united so I guess this is what you meant when you said we need non-Bernie supporters in our leadership for balance.

[Agschmid]

44. You realize Skinner asked for a lead host?

You realize that they aren't really a lead host, they just happen to be the first host.

Once that person is a host they can determine who the other hosts are and if they so choose make every active member of this group a host (this probably won't happen).

I think it's frustrating to see this:

Why did you feel it necessary to interject your opinion when you're only the pollster, nothing more.

That is incredibly disrespectful towards me. I do stand united with this group, and the rest of DU as we work to defeat Republican candidates. I'm not here to make everyone happy, and I'm not going to always agree with everyone, or the majority of the people. Thats something I take pride in, I have had the pleasure of voting both for Warren and Sanders as I've lived in both those states as they ran for office and I am proud of my vote.

If there is something else you want from me, you may not get it. Sorry.

[aspirant]

48. You take pride in

causing Smokeynj to leave this group because you don't mind making people sad.

Why did you feel it necessary to interject?

[Agschmid]

50. I asked them to stay.

I'm going to stop responding I this subthread as this post has now been hijacked, if you want to continue please PM me.

[aspirant]

53. There is no hijacking here

I'm in total support of a distraught fellow Bernie supporter and getting to the bottom of why this happened.

[MissDeeds]

59. +1 n/t

[mmonk]

33. Look, in my thread where I was taking a break, you said we're here when you need us.

I'm saying the same thing.

[G_j]

43. Please stay

Once things settle, this could be a very productive group. Besides my state (NC) group, this is the only group I've taken part in the decade I've been here.

[hibbing]

47. it's only just begun

This is only the start, this conflict between supporters is going to go on until a candidate is chosen. I have my views but I haven't waded into that water yet. I don't know you at all, but I like others would suggest taking a break or just hanging out and lurking some. But whatever you decide to do, good luck to you.


Peace

[smokey nj]

52. This isn't my first primary season here and I have absolutely no problem with people criticizing

the candidate I support as long as the criticism is fair. What I expect is for supporters of the opposing candidate to have some class and not troll a safe haven.

[daleanime]

49. It may not mean anything to you.....

but I hope not. Take a break, go for a walk-around. Come back when you feel better.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

54. People are starving all over the world, hell, right here in America, the oligarchs

have hijacked our country.

Black people are being killed and beaten in America for the crime of being black.

F O C U S

Not speaking only to the OP, to everybody, MYSELF included

[rhett o rick]

55. I recommend you stay, but do what you feel you need to. But do come back. nm