Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumDiane Rehm needs a keeper
Friday's roundup, and she's slandering Bernie, AGAIN, attributing to him other people's faux pas...and then issuing a quiet little apology after the break, saying she "misspoke".
Once is an accident, twice could be senility....but she's right up into Dirty Tricks territory!
Gratitude to whoever called her on it...and getting it so fast!
Skinner
(63,645 posts)I am a regular listener, and dirty tricks are completely inconsistent with my impression of her.
merrily
(45,251 posts)and can you give a couple of examples?
I've never listened, but this is two; and I don't know what her accuse was for allegedly getting a dual citizenship comment from facebook and not getting it fact checked before she went on air with it. The day I hear of a glaring error that she makes in Bernie's favor, I will agree she is just slipping up.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)But if we include today's slip-up, then I am aware the of the two that have been reported here in DU.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I do find two against the same candidate suspicious, though.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Because her show is typically very thoughtful and informative.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)But I still do not get the impression that she would deliberately engage in dirty tricks.
merrily
(45,251 posts)befouling herself on air before as to him, I am not going to chalk it up to "We're all human." Please see Reply 9.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)But I would warn against forming an opinion of anything based solely on those data points that were deemed worthy of sharing on Democratic Underground. It is likely that they do not constitute the complete picture.
As for Diane Rehm, I would encourage you to listen to her show and then cast judgment.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I have strong opinions, but I very capable of being persuaded, if facts are presented.
But I would warn against forming an opinion of anything based solely on those data points that were deemed worthy of sharing on Democratic Underground.
Thank you for the warning. That is not my wont, either. My posts are usually full of links to credible sources other than unsupported DU posts.
It is likely that they do not constitute the complete picture.
As a regular listener, you would be better able than I to present a more complete picture of what Rehm says about Sanders on a regular basis. I am not going to try to listen to her online broadcasts since Bernie announced to see if she has been praising him or gives him more credit than he deserves as often as she undermines him.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)If I have lunch at your diner often and my check is often wrong, my first assumption is that someone at the diner makes a lot of mistakes.
Then, though, I am going to look at the nature of the mistakes. If some are overcharges and some are undercharges, cool.
If they are all overcharges, it's no mistake.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's no mistake.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #38)
merrily This message was self-deleted by its author.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Damn right it's no mistake.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)I called twice when the health care debate was happening, and each time when I got through (to ask about single-payer) the operator ("Dorie," I think at the time) told me that my question or point was not germane to the conversation. I translated that as "we find single payer to be outside the realm of acceptable possibilities."
I count that as a dirty trick. These days, I'm thinking that she considers Bernie Sanders to be outside the realm of acceptable possibilities as well, and is ready and willing to employ similar dirty tricks.
While my second example may not have universal agreement on DU, Diane Rehm also never (and I mean NEVER) lets facts get in the way of her advocacy for more gun control laws.
I agree that she often hosts and facilitates a good discussion. But there seem to be a few issues where she has an axe to grind, and with them she can be ruthless and play dirty. I actually like and appreciate that she is as every bit as much an advocate for women's health and reproductive freedom issues. Anti-choicers can get away with no shit on her show, and that's rare in mainstream media.
-app
Skinner
(63,645 posts)But that is not the same as dirty tricks.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)She's had anti-choicers and NRA-types on her show, and very much acted as an opposing voice:
----> bias.
But excluding all voices for Single Payer in 2009, or catapulting repeated lies about Bernie in 2015, when she has a respected and national loudspeaker?
-----> Dirty Trick.
-app
merrily
(45,251 posts)Seems very telling.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's not clear what happened.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)when it was Martin O'Malley....
merrily
(45,251 posts)Bernie, the only one of the three who never said it?
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and the apology (after the break)
senz
(11,945 posts)appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)BLM and Seattle about a week ago. Page said Bernie said 'All Lives Matter' at the Sea event, when it is clearly documented that O'Malley stated it at Net Roots and HRC also has said it, Bernie never. So it's sloppy or intentionally misleading journalism, going around and around with no accountability. Duh.
Nay
(12,051 posts)Israeli citizenship which, BTW, she really pressed him on after he denied it. I heard that one, and it was a doozy. First, because her apology was oh, that she got it off Facebook, etc. Huh?? NOBODY gets shit off Facebook and goes on a national daily interview show and badgers a presidential candidate over it!! Especially not an experienced interviewer!
So, a second time with the same person? Man. I don't know what to think about that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)See Reply 10, where Demeter explained the OP further.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Her, topics, tone, cadence and spin
are very dull and off putting.
She sounds like she struggles to find words
or grasp ideas.
I don't want to hear my grandma on the radio...
mid-day, when I need energy and inspiration.
NPR should replace her for the sake of all listeners.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)right-wing radio heaven out there. Delivering Pizza Hut to unappreciative customers while I listened to Michael Savage was just fucking painful, so when I could hear her in the morning, despite the choppy cadence, she was like a breath of fresh air. She seems a bit less fresh to me now that I'm more insulated from right wing hate radio.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)I listened in Philly on the local U Penn station.
She was a drone then and drones worse now.
But it's relative, we did have other voices
and not all were right-wingers.
I'm further south now but... I have Sirius radio
soooo, I have lots of choices.
NPR is hurting themselves.
With so many great radio voices,
why do they keep her
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I liked her show a lot back then (this would be early-, mid-'90s).
Once she went national, though, she seemed to become part of what was then (and maybe still is) called the "inside-the-beltway cocktail circuit". The chattering heads who frequent that circuit became regulars on her weekly news round-up on Fridays or would fill in for her occasionally (Steve Roberts being the worst of them, imo).
Like you suggest, though, it's all relative. I was in liberal Montgomery County, Maryland, back during the Clinton era, so she didn't stand out as much then as she would in right-wing middle America during the Bush debacle.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Need I say more?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I DQ her.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)and all too often she does not seem to listen to what someone is actually saying. She misunderstands what's just been said, maybe because she's concentrating too hard on what she is going to say next. She gets it wrong at times, and that shouldn't be happening.
She also tends very much to the conservative side of things, except that her version of conservative is what tea partiers think is liberal.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Should make her be more careful.