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I don't know if it is really any more damaging than before n2doc May 2016 #1
I think it is EdwardBernays May 2016 #6
She ought to hold a press conference saltpoint May 2016 #2
Super stinker EdwardBernays May 2016 #3
She still does not have a definitional saltpoint May 2016 #5
Indeed EdwardBernays May 2016 #8
And it's such a wasted chance for her politically, saltpoint May 2016 #11
Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #16
Sorry to say, yes. Lame campaign crew saltpoint May 2016 #17
Aww Let's cut her some slack Plucketeer May 2016 #15
You know it would be interesting to see how many Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #4
A Google search EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
I've seen a few but basically its the typical excuses Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #12
As always EdwardBernays May 2016 #14
Such a shame this couldn't have come out before Karma13612 May 2016 #9
Fingers crossed EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
Can't stand Jonah Goldberg libodem May 2016 #13

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. I don't know if it is really any more damaging than before
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

What it does do is inoculate tRump from damage caused by his lies. If both sides do it, then the voter has to make choices based on other aspects, or just stay home. There is an obvious way out of this, if the Party elders cared to take it.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
6. I think it is
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Because the MSM - aside from wingers - hasn't been calling her a liar until the OIG report was released. Like the article says - they've known it for a year, but didn't feel they could SAY it until now. And that story is playing out the same way across the media unlike ever before.

It used to be: people think she's a liar.
Now its: she's a liar.

Big difference.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. She ought to hold a press conference
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

and answer all questions.

My guess is she won't do that. Which would go a long way toward supporting the claims in the Sun on her untrustworthiness.

I'm aware that Mrs. Clinton has her minions here on this site, but the facts are becoming painfully clear: She's a stinker of a candidate.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. She still does not have a definitional
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

theme for the campaign. She did offer "We are stronger together" a short while back, but that sounds like a Hallmark card greeting in addition to meaning absolutely nothing.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
11. And it's such a wasted chance for her politically,
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

since she is certainly in a position to hire top-drawer writers and advisors. John Kennedy had a classical education and was no slouch at language and vision, but he still wanted a cadre of advisors and writers around him so that his presidency would speak to later generations and not just the law students over at Georgetown. He spoke respectfully and inspirationally to them, too, but his audience was far larger.

There's none of that in Hillary Clinton's two campaigns for the presidency.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
17. Sorry to say, yes. Lame campaign crew
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

generally, in fact. But she must figure they're as good as anybody for tabulating the Wall Street donor checks and the money from WalMart. Plus, they all know how to book lunch for her with Henry Kissinger.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. You know it would be interesting to see how many
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

papers have slammed her and how many support her actions

I'm seeing papers that endorsed her slamming her for lying

My guess? 4/5 of all papers condemn her actions.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. I've seen a few but basically its the typical excuses
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:19 AM
May 2016

everyone does it, its no big deal, no 'crimes' committed,
witch hunt, she said she made a mistake...... etc.

Those I consider 'positive' spin......

The thing is they are talking and writing about it, before the next primary.

Hey TV news watchers!.......... What are their main stories now?

Any Hillary news discussed?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
14. As always
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:22 AM
May 2016

Hit your local stations up on FB and Twitter etc etc.

The ammo is there and there's MSM precedence.

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
9. Such a shame this couldn't have come out before
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Maryland voted.

Too little too late from the Baltimore Sun, but at least we are finally seeing a glimmer of hope that the media might decide to report the news.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
13. Can't stand Jonah Goldberg
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

But it was an entertaining piece.

Reading him puts a crimp in my progressive credentials.

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