Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumI thought threads that were posted in our group were for us to have a place to
go to and discuss issues that are important to us.
I understand that anyone on the internet can read what we post BUT if this is our safe haven, a place we can let it out, why are our threads getting alerted from people that are not members of this group?
Am I misunderstanding something here?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)I am not.
jillan
(39,451 posts)they don't like.
I can't imagine these hides are coming from one of us.
We are all "close" enough to ask each other to take down a thread when we post something inappropriate.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)There is a legal term for this.
jillan
(39,451 posts)And they call Bernie supporters mean and nasty. lololol.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)but we're the (fill inthe blank)
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Don't like what's posted in a group then move on. I never go into the Hillary group because I am pretty sure there is some stuff in there that will be offensive as hell. I have no interest in looking for people to alert on based on partisan ship.
jillan
(39,451 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Toxic.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I didn't trash it for the longest time. But, after weeks of seeing nothing of substance posted from that group it was an easy trash group decision.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)but somehow wandered in there anyway, posted something innocuous about religious decorum sometimes prohibiting photographs, and ZAP! I got my automated message saying I was banned.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)I think as a juror I've voted to hide 2 so far. I scratch my head a lot with these alerts.
And I'm surprised when people vote to hide. Actually there ought to be a rule that only
a member of the group can alert. Makes sense to me.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)at the very least anyone banned from a group should not be allowed to alert on posts within that group.
brewens
(13,588 posts)I probably excuse myself from more than I hide. If I get on a jury and it's not something that really interests me enough to take the time to look things over and make a fair call, I bail out. In some cases, to know what's going on, you really need to look through the thread and I don't always have enough time.
Loudestlib
(980 posts)This is most likely pay back. In all fairness they do ban more people, so they probably ticked someone off and now someone is ticked off at us.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Myself. That is what an honest person would do.
jillan
(39,451 posts)mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...but neither do I knee-jerk vote to hide just because it's the Hillary group. I vote honestly. But then us Bernie supporters seem to be fair and above-board that way, just like our candidate.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)If the groups (as opposed to the forums) are supposed to be safe havens in which persons of common interest discuss stuff (be it Hillary, Bernie, African American issues, chicken recipes, power boating, South African drama), then those groups should be closed to all except the hosts, who should have the power to let people into the group. The posts within said groups should not be visible to those outside the group. For example -- there is well known hatred among DUers who sail and those who operate powered marine equipment. The power boaters shouldn't get to see what the sailors are talking about, and vice versa. This spares those in the sail boat group from having to append "SB Group" to their posts maligning owners of boats fitted with twin Mercruiser 450s. Otherwise the power boaters see that stuff in the latest posts page, and just barge right in. Then the sail boat group members alert -- and they don't just want juries -- they want to hold a full blown Captain's Mast, followed by lashing or keel hauling. It's ugly, and contributes to the tense atmosphere we've seen here lately at DU.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Because New York is set up to result in a tie, or at the least a very close race, one that won't tilt the scales very much.
And then it's going to get a lot worse around here.
Members of DU don't even have to make comments in any of the sub forums in order to sit on juries.
So, you have no idea what they think because they don't have to speak out and let anyone know how they think.
For all we know, 90% of the new members may be Trump supporters.
Why would Trump's supporters join DU?
Because new members to DU are not required to participate in threads by making comments in order to send alerts on posts that piss them off.
So, in essence, you are being alerted on by the silent majority who want to suppress your freedom of speech.
All they need to do to be effective is make alerts on every single post you make on any given day . . and before you know it, you wind up being flagged for review, like BMUS was.
After New York's election is over tomorrow, and after the results are contested --- as it looks like they will be now -- it will be open season on any Bernie supporter at DU.
It won't affect the outcome of any elections in real life in the future . . but they hate your guts for supporting Bernie all the same.
mrdmk
(2,943 posts)What gets me in this election is the authoritarian slant on who I should vote for. I use to use the ignore function sparingly until now. Getting different points of view is important to useful knowledge. Now it has become brow beating 101 with the coordination of strategies from outside posting boards. To make matters worse the lifting of the time-out rule when attitudes where starting to calm down.
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artislife
(9,497 posts)under a clinton presidency.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)and the one I'm most concerned about....
I'm pretty sure without Bernie in office, we're in for a nastier revolution of one kind or another. Either from against the theocrat, the facist, or more mildly (or perhaps just a bit less heatedly) the bought and paid for of our own. I hope we're all ready for a fight, only one of those options doesn't see the people as the ones that need to be 'brought to heel'.
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)The posts are still visible t o everyone and if they're offensive, they're offensive. I think closed groups are a bad idea because people think they can say outrageous stuff and they're safe.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I don't think they should read everything, but if there is an issue, it should be there responsibility. If they aren't doing their job, and by not doing their job - I think that would take equal examination of the other forum's posts, then that becomes an admin/mod discussion. Alert stalking on protected candidate forum's is infantile.
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)Alert stalking is juvenile but so is starting threads which attack other DUers, and it happens frequently. Those threads show up in latest/greatest and cause a lot of bad feelings.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)For example, I think my very first Hide vote was when the poster called another DU member an asshole. Well, if there's a post in Brutus's protected group in which someone calls a Caesar supporter an asshole, that's improper and should be hidden, regardless of who alerted on it.
At least, that's my understanding of how the rules are applied. It's also my view of how the rules should be applied. Let's maintain at least a minimal standard of civility toward one another.
That said, I've let a lot of incivility from the Clinton supporters pass without alerting. The latest gem I spotted was that Sanders supporters are "{j}ust the same people voting for the latest shiny object." If I'd been called to a jury on that post, I would have voted to hide it as a personal attack, but I didn't bother alerting. Instead, I just added it to my collection. If Hillary gets the nomination, I may turn some of the choicer smears into a sig.
DI Freighter Watcher
(128 posts)That's why I read but don't comment or post. Even in a protected group, DU allows the Hillary people to run roughshod over this site. After reading this site for over a year I stepped in the fray and quickly learned to stay silent in my support for Bernie, even in the Bernie Group.
I just commented so bring it hilltrolls, I have nothing to loose here, except potential friends.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)carry on with language and tactics that attack and attempt to define 'the other' which is all they have. On DU most of that same lot has a long history of very aggressive anti LGBT comments and attitudes so I'm already super familiar with them and with the personas they use as facade.
QC
(26,371 posts)Subtle, eh?
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)with a square of the Celtic cross vs the elongated traditional Irish type, exhibited places . Now I noes
http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/celtic-cross.html
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)It's becoming a reflection of the site, since the admins aren't pulling those threads or posters when they have been alerted on multiple times. Winning juries 3-4 doesn't make it less antisemitic. We don't determine racism by popular vote. It's racist because it is. It's antisemitic because it is.