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Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:10 PM

Men Who Hate Women

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The 21-year-old woman known only as “A” sat in a courtroom in central Italy recently, listening to the doctor’s testimony. “In 30 years dealing with violent injuries, I have never seen such cruelty,” the doctor, Gabriele Iagnemma, said.
The young woman, a student, had been violently raped by a man she trusted; then left for dead in a pool of her own blood in a snow bank outside a club one winter evening last year. Miraculously, she survived the attack, though the operation to reconstruct her vagina and repair her cervix and uterus took many hours. Her assailant had used an unidentified blunt object during the rape, the doctor testified.

Francesco Tuccia, 22, the man eventually convicted of her rape, asked if he could leave the courtroom during the doctor’s graphic testimony, and was escorted out. His victim stayed as Tuccia’s lawyers argued that he had only used his hands, and that her injuries were due to her petite stature. This, his lawyers argued, was a “loving relationship between two consenting adults.” Tuccia’s passions may have been unbridled, they said, but were certainly not malicious.



As The Daily Beast reported last year, though violence against women is finally getting the attention it deserves, the number of women killed in Italy has been steadily growing—about 10 percent every year for the past three years—a faster rate than any other European country, according to Non Siamo Complici, or We Are Not Accomplices, a group that is working to empower women to stand up to domestic violence.

Though statistics on femicide are hard to come by, according to the United Nations, 50 percent of women killed between 2008 and 2010 in Europe were killed by a family member. For men, that number was just 15 percent. In other words, women are killed by those who supposedly love them. Only six weeks into the year, already nine women in Italy have been murdered by their husbands, exes, or boyfriends.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/17/men-who-hate-women.html?account=thedailybeast&medium=twitter

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ismnotwasm Feb 2013 OP
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #1
BainsBane Feb 2013 #2
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #4
BainsBane Feb 2013 #5
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #6
ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #7
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #8
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #9
seabeyond Mar 2013 #17
seabeyond Mar 2013 #16
seabeyond Mar 2013 #15
Deep13 Feb 2013 #3
seabeyond Mar 2013 #18
Deep13 Mar 2013 #22
redqueen Feb 2013 #10
smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #11
boston bean Mar 2013 #12
Dash87 Mar 2013 #13
seabeyond Mar 2013 #19
redqueen Mar 2013 #20
seabeyond Mar 2013 #21
seabeyond Mar 2013 #14

Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:22 PM

1. Coward:

Francesco Tuccia, 22, the man eventually convicted of her rape, asked if he could leave the courtroom during the doctor’s graphic testimony, and was escorted out.






According to an unprecedented global 2012 study in the American Political Science Review published by Cambridge University Press, research “found astonishingly high rates of sexual assault, stalking, trafficking, violence in intimate relationships, and other violations of women.” According to the study’s co-author, S. Laurel Weldon, “in Europe it is a bigger danger to women than cancer, with 45 percent of European women experiencing some form of physical or sexual violence. Rates are similar in North America, Australia, and New Zealand.”

Latin America, commonly perceived to have a bigger problem than Europe, for example, has done much more to tackle the problem. “People have a misconception that it’s worse in Latin America, but it’s not,” she told The Daily Beast. “Europe has been slow to join the party.”

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:33 PM

2. Brazil has women's police stations

Staffed by women police and for crimes against women, such as rape and domestic battery.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:38 PM

4. My first thought was, "What a great idea!"

but I was immediately pissed off that we even have to have a great idea like that.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:55 PM

5. it enables women to make charges

without having to deal with male scorn or disbelief. It also creates a mass of women police officers.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 02:04 PM

6. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great idea,

but men should not be brutalizing women. Like the poster below said, just stop it.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 02:15 PM

7. One of the reasons I posted this, is because I think there is a perception

That this is a problem of the so-called 'third world' countries all the attention India and Egypt are getting.

I've also read criticisms of the 'one Billion Rising' movement saying it doesn't actually 'help' the poor, the disenfranchised, the developing nations. Irritating since the most powerful voice at the rising I attended were from Islamic Somalian women. The MC was a women who was strongly Asian in appearance, but smoothly broke into Spanish to interpret what she had just said in English. The best dancers were street people. Men were weeping at the stories of women. A belly dancer could celebrate her body and her talent without objectification.



Violence against women most certainly is a global atrocity that crosses gender,culture and socio-economic statue and I never want to forget that.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 02:46 PM

8. Regarding One Billion Rising, anything that raises awareness is good for all of us.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:08 PM

9. And yes, I think you are right that there is a perception that

the 'Western Civilized Countries' are better at this.

THIS > > > "Violence against women most certainly is a global atrocity that crosses gender,culture and socio-economic statue and I never want to forget that."

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 09:59 AM

17. again, it is why i continually point out it is not a party issue, but a man issue.

here on du we like to say those rotten repugs. this so goes beyond party.

if we cannot even recognize this, we will not get far.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 09:58 AM

16. you are absolutely right on. the rhetoric has to be debunked. nt

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 09:57 AM

15. ha... that is the first thing i thought about also. he should have been forced to see the animal

he is.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:33 PM

3. Why!? Why!? Why!?



Just stop it!

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:00 AM

18. lol, deep 13. i know it is a heavy issue and i get what you are saying,

but if only that is all it takes. i hear ya.

is it getting worse, or are we just hearing about it more.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 06:01 PM

22. I know. If it happens, we should hear about it.

We should act to prevent such things. It just should never happen.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:26 PM

10. "50 percent of women killed between 2008 and 2010 in Europe were killed by a family member."

In the US, on average, three women are murdered every single day by a partner or ex partner.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:45 PM

11. Sick fucking bastard. He should be shot.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:30 PM

12. I was surfing the net the other day and I came across the woman hater site

Blood will boil after watching, listening and reading this asshole's posts and videos.

http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/

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Response to boston bean (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:00 PM

13. I only gave it a 5 second look, but that might be just a big wind up.

Basically, when bloggers post offensive crap for attention or the pleasure of pissing others off.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:06 AM

19. ya. these assholes a feeding it to other insecure assholes and the mentality is growing

with the help of our media.

internet, yea. gives them a voice.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:18 AM

20. The 'ignore them and they'll go away' tactic has failed.

Spectacularly.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:30 AM

21. common sense, logic, intellectually, it does not make sense that ignoring them will do a

damn thing but allow it to grow.

people live in such deny to be comfortable. screw everyone else as long as their world is just fine... until it is not just fine anymore cause the world comes into play in our RL.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 09:52 AM

14. what a fuckin coward. like he has the right to face accuser, he should have to see the damage

and the animal he is.

italy is very much a misogynist society. we like to pretend they are more socially progressive. i see most europe behind us in the womans movement. we are told so many things that factually do not pan out but logically make no sense. and we are suppose to just buy it.

“It’s a macho acting-out of the attitude, ‘How dare you—you inferior bitch—leave me!’” she says. It’s “acting out his feelings of male superiority.”


“From the burning of witches in the past to the more recent widespread custom of female infanticide in many societies, to the killing of women for ‘honor’… femicide has been going on a long time,” says Russell who first testified about femicide at the International Tribunal of Crimes against Women in Brussels in 1976. Her book Femicide: The Politics of Woman Killing, resulted in the term being adopted in more than 15 countries in Latin America.


and then to have SOME men tell us it is just as bad for them. sick.

“This is reflected in the laws as well as in the norms and values,” she says. “Men are considered the head of “their” families, and many believe their wives should be subservient to them. When their power is threatened, many lash out violently.”



they do not even try to pretend that they are better about this issue than the u.s. they compare themselves to latin america macho society.

for whatever reason i have an interest in this man hates woman that i am feeling so much of. yesterday i was reading a site and a man was saying "i hate women" and then went into a bunch of garbage about women the ultimate evil, ect... reading thru the responses there was a poster with the same name as someone on du. it was really illuminating. how horrible american women are and boy did it go on a rant that would be parallel to his posts on du, but in code usage, now flat out saying like on this site.

then later in the day i read an article by a woman, talking about this men hating women phenomena. again, very interesting. i come in here to post that article and see your title. so, it is something i am gonna do a little focusing on.

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