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Related: About this forumHow Some Men Harass Women Online and What Other Men Can Do to Stop It
When I write about feminism and mens violence against women, I often receive supportive comments. While some of the praise is earned, much of it gives me a lot of credit for doing very little. When women write about those same topics, its a different story. We men threaten women bloggers and writers with rape and murder. We call women man-haters, verbally abuse them, hack into their email accounts and stalk them. We alter photos of women, putting cuts and bruises on their faces. Then we excuse ourselves, saying we were just jokingcant you feminists take a joke?
4. When men harass women online, speak up. We can say something like, As a man, your harassing comment offends me, in the Comments sections. Say how it hurts you rather than speaking on behalf of the target.
5. Name the specific silencing tactic being used: name-calling, focusing on a womans appearance instead of her argument, etc.
7. Watch for professional trolls from the Mens Rights or Fathers Rights groups. They will often use terms such as misandry and refer to the feminist movement as anti-male or the domestic violence movement as an industry.
http://msmagazine.com/blog/2013/01/23/how-some-men-harass-women-online-and-what-other-men-can-do-to-stop-it/
niyad
(113,303 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)...
Richard Rogers and Vanessa Thorpe called for a stop to such harassment in the Guardian two years ago. But most men have remained silent, as we do with many forms of our genders violence against women. Many of us blame the victim, suggesting things women can do differently to ameliorate the problem. We tell women to grow a thicker skin, not to feed the trolls and not to assume all men feel that way. Or we ride in on a white horse to save the poor damsels by insulting the insulters or threatening violence against those who are threatening violence. This makes us feel better, but often does little to help the women being attacked or stop the violence from happening.
When men are harassed online, its often because they are speaking out against rape culture. Comedian Jamie Kilstein reports receiving a few combative emails after questioning Gods existence or challenging Glenn Beckbut he received thousands after challenging rape culture. There is a cost for betraying ones privilege (although) nowhere near the costs borne by the marginalized, says Don Bell of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism:
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)for the link.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)The ones that aren't have no brains, and can't argue without sounding like the trolls. Arguing with a troll is a waste of time, as you'll just get the usual "get in teh kichen!!1!1!" and "misandry!" crap, and nothing worthwhile will ever come of it.
They don't care that "it hurts." Most are either 12 years old or insanely stupid.
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Trading insults is usually not worth it. Usually. I also wouldn't talk about hurt feelings, first on a personal level, idiots don't hurt my feelings anyway, but more importantly, 'hurt' implies weakness and these creeper fuckers revel in that shit.
But there are ways to point things out from a position of strength. Of course they'll never agree, but poke at these types enough and they angry, like any other bully. They get angry, you make fun of their anger. That's one way to separate someone who wants to have a discussion vs. a creeper troll.
The question is, since it takes a little time and effort, is it worth it in a particular circumstance.