2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Romney's decision to exclude millions from 'middle income' to cause anxiety
in the middle class so that they vote GOP to try and get back into the herd? Why else would Romney say middle income is $200,000 to $250,000. Cause Americans want to be part of the same group that includes the middle class at the very least.... they want to be part of the american success story.
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Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)He speaks more truth than he knows.
libguard
(40 posts)claim the middle class is 200-250. Therefore, when Obama talks about excluding 250 and under, Romney talks about those on the cusp. He is channeling Lindsey Lohan.
Igel
(35,300 posts)Not hard.
The President and Romney have the same definitions. They put them differently. It's immediately obvious if you finish the quote. "... And less."
Obama has families earning up to $250k ($200k for a single wage earner) falling into the "middle class." To put a lower bound on it is politically stupid.
Romney has families earning $250k ($200k for a single wage earner) and less falling into the "middle class." He also avoids putting a lower limit on it, even being weirdly explicit in saying that you could be in poverty and still be middle class. (This makes a weird kind of sense, since I've known middle class kids and families who fell into poverty and still thought of themselves as middle class--and, after a slump, returned to that status. In some cases they used reserves to maintain their lifestyle, and only their income was poverty level. In other cases they went broke and took a lifestyle plunge for a while. Anyway, it's not just income.)
Apart from approaching the scale in different directions--top-down versus bottom-up--Obama and Romney differ only at two points. Literally, points. Obama excludes families making precisely $250k (single wage families earning $200k) from the middle class when he says "up to" (but not "including" . Romney includes families making precisely $250k (single wage families earning $200k) in the middle class when he says those numbers "and less."
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)It just showcased how clueless he is about reality.