The proverbial picture is worth a thousand words:

[KingCharlemagne]

[brooklynite]

1. And you posted this because...

Seriously, why did you post it? To convince Clinton voters of the ertor of their ways? To make Sanders voters feel more virtuous?

I'll observe that your patron isn't campaigning on this point or anything like it.

[KingCharlemagne]

4. I'm sick and tired of people insinuating that Sanders is a racist or sexist

Because he is trying to court Trump supporters.

War pigs of a feather flock together.

Apologies for the mixed metaphor and thanks for the kick.

[roguevalley]

42. you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep

that man deserves to be in solitary for the rest of his life.

[KittyWampus]

67. Shall I post a photo of Jimmy Carter with Kissinger for you?

You can tell a lot about the maturity of someone and their aptitude for being in positions of authority by how they manage to deal with those they disagree with. Especially in politics.

[MrMickeysMom]

68. Yeah, go ahead and give us a recent one of that...

What a side splitter, knee slapper that would be.

[anigbrowl]

84. Well, you asked

This is from 2009. They were both in Beijing to celebrate 30 years of diplomatic relations or something along those lines.

[senz]

97. Ha! Dignitaries shaking hands. That's nothing.

The one in the OP shows Ol' Hillary getting all sweetie-pooh with Henry.

[treestar]

88. Yeah, geez maybe there is one of Bernie and Kissinger somewhere

and bernie is scowling!

[MrMickeysMom]

117. You'll no doubt reach deep in side your giant mind cells for that...

[840high]

76. Thanks for posing.

[LS_Editor]

44. She pals around with other warmongers and war profiteets.

It's fairly obvious, so I hope you are being purposely obtuse.

[CoffeeCat]

78. She's a neocon, and people need to be reminded

She picked Robert Kagan, one of the PNAC/neocon founders to be a policy adviser when she was SOS.

Who in the hell does that?

How dare she bring this filth into our party and make warmongering a Democratic pastime.

She's got a storied history of pro-war stances: Voting for the Iraq war, while knowing that the neocons had asked her husband for the same Iraq war when he was President. In fact, her "policy adviser" Robert Kagan, was one of the signatories on the 1998 letter to Bill Clinton that begged him to go to war with Iraq.

She knew this was a war of opportunity for the warmongering neocons, and she served as a cheerleader for it.

She also banged the war drums for intervention in Iran, when Bush tried to warm up the American public to war with Iran.

She was for arming the Syrian rebels.

She spearheaded the destabilization of Libya, which is now a failed, violent state. This is precisely the neocon blueprint. Remove or kill Middle East leaders, destabilize the area and leave it vulnerable. Pillage the resources and control the region.

The neocons spell out the countries on their wish list, in their "Rebuilding America's Defenses" manifesto. They want Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya. Look how much progress they've made with Hillary's help.

Sick of Democrats who apologize or deny this. Sick of neocon scum being in our Democratic party. This is not what the Democratic party is about. It's sick. Her cozy relationship with Kissinger and Kagan are reminders of who she is.

[haikugal]

102. Well put...and yes, it IS disgusting! nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. He's always reminded me of this guy:

[MrMickeysMom]

69. Maybe your preferred media should be replaced with real news

Most of us get a chuckle out of the Simpsons. You like it for a news source.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

70. It's a better news source than Fox, and CNN most of the time.

[MrMickeysMom]

72. What a bar to set high and reach, eh?

"better than Fox and CNN most of the time"...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

75. Don't you think Kissinger looks like Professor Farnsworth?

-Who, by the way, is a character from Futurama, not The Simpsons, neither of which I actually use as a news source. I was just making an observation about the resemblance of Ol' Henry to a secondary cartoon character.

[MrMickeysMom]

116. You made me look up Professor Farnsworth, I'll have you know...

His BMI is too low!

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Hillary is a former Secretary of State.

Henry Kissinger is a former Secretary of State.

What's your point? Are two former Secs of State not allowed to be filmed together?

[KingCharlemagne]

8. It's the smile(s). Kissinger has the blood of 2-3 million

Southeast Asians and Chileans on his hands. Hillary has the blood of a million innocent Iraqis on her hands.

[Blue_Adept]

10. We're Americans

We all have blood on our hands. Some more than others. But ALL of us have it.

[KingCharlemagne]

12. Ah, but how many of us are smiling about it? - nt

[Blue_Adept]

14. Do you smile at any point during the day?

For shame. You have blood on your hands. How can you smile?

Wait, you mean you sometimes smile at various times, events, and locations as the need arises in order to interact with other members of society?

How strange...

[KingCharlemagne]

17. I save my smiles for when I literally have my arm around a war

criminal.

[one_voice]

24. And if she hadn't smiled she would have gotten shit for that...

smile and she gets shit, don't smile and she gets shit. She's in a no win situation.

It's not like she's at a backyard bbq in that picture. It's a formal event. He was presenting her with an award. Yeah, I'm sure scowling would have worked.

[KingCharlemagne]

26. Amazing your rationalizations - nt

[artislife]

41. ^^This

or laugh and say " We came, we saw and he died."

[peace13]

45. And people who continue to elect those types...

....have a little bit more on their hands than others.

I used to say all Americans share the blood but after years on the peace line, time contacting elected officials and speaking out for peace I refuse to accept as much responsibility as someone who continues to support a hawk without doing any work to promote peace. We all have blood on our hands...for sure.

[NJCher]

55. I don't buy that

Many of us have fought these powers year after year after year.


Cher

[joshcryer]

37. Every time someone says that...

...they give a pass to Bush for his war crimes.

Congrats.

[KingCharlemagne]

48. I dont see Bush in this photograph. Please do try

to keep up now.

But thanks for the kick.

[joshcryer]

49. I'm not responding to the photograph.

I'm responding to your giving a war criminal a pass in order to focus on an irrelevant vote.

[yeoman6987]

83. And what jury convicted him?

Oh that's right we don't call anyone in this country a criminal without a conviction. That is pretty much law 101. We don't have to like it of course but those are the facts.

[joshcryer]

85. You don't think Bush is a war criminal?

[yeoman6987]

92. Maybe but without trial he isn't classified as one.

[Scuba]

9. You must be unaware of how she praised this war criminal in her book.

[Blue_Adept]

15. How have other SOS post-Kissinger talked about him in their books?

I'd love to get some context. Is it the norm? Is she the outlier with it?

[Scuba]

59. Doesn't matter. He's a war criminal and she called him a trusted advisor. Shameful.

[KingCharlemagne]

91. +Infinity! - nt

[reACTIONary]

46. +100 !! (NT)

[Warren Stupidity]

98. He's a war criminal and she's a ......

oh wait no let's not go there.

[Cali_Democrat]

100. So then what are your thoughts on this picture?

Or this picture?

[Warren Stupidity]

101. That pircutre shows Carter walking with a war criminal

Carter's body language is not demonstrating a warm embrace of the war criminal. In fact he appears to be distancing himself and, with his closest hand to the war criminal firmly ensconced in his pocket, it communicates to me an unwillingness to befriend the war criminal

[stevil]

108. LOL

Of course!

[MeNMyVolt]

5. Grow up. n/t

[yardwork]

112. Took the post right out of my hands. +1

[CharlotteVale]

6. No matter how many times I've seen it...it's always sickening.

[KingCharlemagne]

21. Sickening but also bracing. No one who sees this pic can

claim they did not receive fair warning.

[Buzz Clik]

7. A few words:

Here is former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, embracing another former SoS and Nobel Laureate, Henry Kissinger.

[Scuba]

11. A few words: War monger embraces war monger.

[KingCharlemagne]

13. Hard to escape that conclusion, isn't it? - nt

[Duval]

54. Yeah. nt

[40RatRod]

40. BS

[Blue_Adept]

16. STOP THE PRESSES!

[img][/img]

Multiple secretaries of state - TOGETHER - and smiling!

Hell on earth, I say. I mean, look how CLOSE Clinton is to Kissinger!

[tammywammy]

18. ...

[farleftlib]

27. Now there's a rogue's gallery

Better yet, Murderer's Row.

[CharlotteVale]

28. Perfect description.

[KingCharlemagne]

29. Any guess as to the aggregate body count represented on that stage? The number

might make other mass murderers in history green with envy.

[farleftlib]

31. It boggles the mind. War criminals preening for the cameras.

Although I'm sure they sleep like babies at night.

[KingCharlemagne]

33. Can't copy and paste easily so will leave you with this quote:

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/327461-they-were-careless-people-tom-and-daisy--they-smashed-up

[NJCher]

56. oh, that is such an excellent quote

Here's the quote:

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”


― F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby


Cher

[KingCharlemagne]

61. Thank you for copying it. im on a tablet and such mundane activity is

really difficult for me.

[zeemike]

60. Yep. representing every war from Viet Nam to our pesent permanent war.

The death of millions...and all of them proud of it and wealthy from it.

[artislife]

43. War criminals, all. nt

[Skidmore]

19. Bernie doesn't have clean hands either

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251426628

[KingCharlemagne]

30. I decided to finish what you started. - nt

[Skidmore]

32. You didn't finish it.

You just made an excuse for not acknowledging that Sanders has more than his share of blood on his hands. He provided some of the winds beneath the gun manufacturers wings. He was their boy. Those guns make it into wars and are used in the commission of any number of crimes or suicides here and abroad...all for profit. That's okay. I understand. Because Sanders is associated with it, those actions or inactions are absolved. Everyone else is responsible.

[KingCharlemagne]

34. Um, yeah, I did finish it. Anyone who supports Hillary

supports Kissinger. See how that works?

[Skidmore]

35. Wrong.

Many people are able to deal with complex ideas, and that is not one.

[MrMickeysMom]

71. Bernie's actions don't include blindly following the advice of fools and war criminals...

... He has a moral compass on gun control, which didn't affect the statistics on gun violence, whereas her compass is set on spin cycle, affecting a whole lot more violence against Americans in a persistant war state.

[Warren Stupidity]

99. Ok I'll do that trade.

You agree that Clinton is a neocon war mongerer and I'll agree that Sanders is not great on gun control.

Deal?

[NurseJackie]

20. LOL

... and sad that Bernie's fans think this helps. But mostly funny.

[KingCharlemagne]

23. Thanks so much for the kick - nt

[NurseJackie]

94. You're very welcome! (Here's another kick for exposure.)

[Blue_Adept]

22. Damnit, even Obama smiled next to him!

It's a freaking

And hell, don't forget Obama smiled next to this guy - and remember how much he's responsible for!

[img][/img]

[KingCharlemagne]

25. Obama isn't a candidate; Hillary is - nt

[seabeyond]

65. So, we are only allowed candidates that have no cabinet experience or hide themselves from everyone

but staffers to ensure they do not get a picture taken standing next to someone we do not like?

[KingCharlemagne]

66. I have to admire the way you Bowdlerize that photo - nt

[treestar]

87. this OP and other like it are just so immature

it's like high school argument.

So simplistic.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. An embrace of ideals...neolib ideals.

[WillyT]

38. A Member Of The Club...

[baldguy]

39. .

Can't wait for you to arrest Jimmy Carter for war crimes for his association with Henry Kissinger.

[rbrnmw]

51. thanks

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

52. And you'll notice that no one in any of those pictures has their arms around Kissinger

with big smiles on their faces. In fact, they all have very somber expressions on their faces.

And the picture with Jimmy Carter is probably where Kissinger is persuading Carter to let his (Kissinger's) old friend, the Shah of Iran, into the United States. Carter agreed, and the result of that decision was that Iranian militants overran the US Embassy in Tehran and held Americans hostage there for more than a year.

[baldguy]

57. That's just, like, your *opinion*, man.

Can't you just admit that it's small-minded and petty to try this guilt-by-association shit? Just because someone meeting doesn't immediately try to rip his head off & drive a wooden stake through his heart DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN that they agree with every one of his policy decisions. Democrats are supposed to be better than that.

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

58. Were you around when Kissinger was Secretary of State?

Kissinger was responsible for helping to expand the war in Indochina. He had a hand in the coup that killed Salvador Allende in Chile in 1973. He also had a hand in Operation Condor in South America that led to the disappearance of thousands of Argentinians and others at the hands of right-wing dictators that he supported.

Hillary has praised Kissinger as a mentor. And her policies as Secretary of State reflected those of Kissinger-- "regime change" in Honduras instead of Chile, regime change in Libya that has led to turmoil in that country, hawkish response for regime change in Syria.

[in_cog_ni_to]

47. The Clintons LOVE warmongering RWers..even the WORST president this country has ever had to endure -

GEORGE W. BUSH....a WAR CRIMINAL


Former President Bush has spoken at length about his close ties to former President Bill Clinton, at times calling him his "brother from another mother."

CNN's Candy Crowley asked Bush during an interview published Friday where that leaves Hillary Clinton: "My sister-in-law!" the president responded light-heartedly


It's sick! She's not to be trusted. EVER.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/12/05/george-w-bush-hillary-clinton-is-like-my-sister-in-law/

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[cantbeserious]

50. And There It Is - We All Know The Truth - Still Many Pretend Otherwise

eom

[mgmaggiemg]

53. hate to break it to you

all the dems and republicans hug each other.....even when they oppose each other's politics....your post is lame

[KingCharlemagne]

63. My post is so lame, it has received 37 recs. But thanks for the kick - nt

[840high]

77. #41

[KingCharlemagne]

95. Thank you and now up to 48 - nt

[seabeyond]

62. A gathering of Secretary of States? 6 words. Nt

[Warren DeMontague]

64. Oh yeah??? Look at THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Clearly Bernie Sanders associates with known drug users because he wants people to inject dangerous marijuanas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As evidenced as well by his refusal to support our patriotic job creators in the private prison industry, in their valiant attempt to get violent pot junkies off the streets and into prison cells where they belong.






...

[MrMickeysMom]

73. Oh, Noes!1!!11!

[demwing]

90. We know Willie Nelson's about to Bern one!

it's 4:20 somewhere...

[AzDar]

74. Birds of a feather...

[oasis]

79. Madam President will be featured in many more photos.

You'll have at least eight years to fill your scrapbook(s).

[Betty Karlson]

80. 1 % having fun? Usually at the expense of everybody else. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

81. Bernie is having a really bad few weeks, isn't he?

You can always tell.

[KingCharlemagne]

93. Bernie pulls 10,000 to his rallies, Hillary's lucky to get 350. But Sanders is

having a bad few weeks. Right.

[NanceGreggs]

107. And HRC ...

... is still waaaaay ahead in the polls.

[Maedhros]

82. I don't put too much into these photos.

You know the old saying, "politics makes for strange bedfellows."

[treestar]

86. This is just so friggin' insulting to my intelligence

There's a photo of her somewhere with Bernie Sanders and she could well be smiling. Does that make her a saint?

Just ridiculous.

[KingCharlemagne]

89. Why, it is almost as insulting as insinuating that, because

he has announced he is seeking the support of Trump's supporters, Sanders is a sexist or a racist.

Oh wait! Hillary has the blood of a million innocent Iraqis dripping from her hands, so maybe there's a reason she's cuddled up with Strangelove.

[MadDAsHell]

96. To be fair, read some of Killer Mike's incredibly misygonist lyrics and you might feel differently..

That went conveniently un-addressed when DU was fawning all over his endorsement of Bernie though.

[randys1]

103. BASH the former First Lady...Do it often, and you might just get the result you seek.

[KingCharlemagne]

104. What result would that be, pray tell? - nt

[randys1]

105. What is the reason you do it? If it is solely to bolster Bernie, surely by now

he has told you enough times NOT to bash her?

I know I have heard it and seen it a hundred times, you havent?

[KingCharlemagne]

109. Camp Weathervane SOP: make insinuations, then refuse to clarify. DEFLECT, DEFLECT

DEFLECT!

How is it bashing, pray tell?

[Warren Stupidity]

111. OIC, so bashing Sanders, ok, bashing Clinton BAD.

amirite?

[randys1]

115. Show me where I have ever bashed Bernie or defended it

[BlueMTexpat]

106. So you're a DU member

for a little over a year - with posts mostly either in praise of Sanders or in defense of Nader's actions in 2000?

Hmmm ... you realize that simply posting photographs clearly intended to smear the Dem front-runner is not the best way to win support for your candidate from those who are actual Democrats. If you don't, you should. But, by all means, please keep on with this losing tactic.

You out yourself more with every post.

[KingCharlemagne]

110. Here is a hint: stop insinuating that Sanders is a racist or sexist. Otherwise, you

are of course free to place me on Ignore or to trash the thread.

But thanks for the kick!

[yardwork]

113. Has this poster insinuated anything like that?

Or are you just flailing in rage?

[KingCharlemagne]

114. Flailing rage that secured some 53 Recs. But thanks for the kick. - nt