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[leftofcool]

1. +1 and a rec

[NurseJackie]

2. Perfect!

[Octafish]

3. Seems more like entrapment.

The Sanders IT team reported firewall problems in the spring to the DNC. No one there did anything about it until the second "opening." Now the whip comes down.

[DanTex]

4. LOL. "The door was unlocked, judge, how was I not supposed to just walk in and steal the TV!"

[Octafish]

7. Except the kid didn't take anything. He called the cops.

That's the kind of person we need in politics, one with Integrity. It'd make for real change.

[DanTex]

8. Yes, the kid did take something. Clinton's data.

[MohRokTah]

9. The audits showed 9 separate data thefts. eom

[merrily]

29. Define "data theft"

[hack89]

39. Running custom queries on private data and saving the results.

that is data theft.

[merrily]

40. To where were they saved and what are the names of the people officially claiming data theft?

[hack89]

41. Saved on Sanders campaign PCs. Nt

[JoePhilly]

42. These are helpful ...

... they have wheels on them.

[orpupilofnature57]

53. Issues anything but issues .

[BlueCheese]

13. In the spring?

Was he even running in the spring?

[Octafish]

26. Good point.

I read it was reported earlier this year. Why do you think the DNC waited until now, the eve of the primary season, to say something? Is now a better time to invent a scandal?

[DURHAM D]

17. The claim that the Sanders team reported an earlier

problem has been denied.

Who supposedly reported it earlier and who did they report it to?

[Octafish]

43. I'd deny it, too, if it were true. Who knows?

The guy I heard reported it earlier is the IT guru who stepped down or was fired.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/josh-uretsky-clinton-data-breach

From what I've read, he's a stand-up guy who reported what he discovered. I think that's a good thing, rather than lie, he told the truth.

[DURHAM D]

45. The earlier issue was regarding a different data base. nt

[MohRokTah]

5. Seems to me Sanders was always like this.

It's all there in the stuff he wrote in the 70s (that amazingly always gets hidden here when posted).

[merrily]

30. Bull puckies.

[Octafish]

44. You are wrong.

Matt Taibbi gets it right:

Sanders is a clear outlier in a generation that has forgotten what it means to be a public servant. The Times remarks upon his “grumpy demeanor.” But Bernie is grumpy because he’s thinking about vets who need surgeries, guest workers who’ve had their wages ripped off, kids without access to dentists or some other godforsaken problem that most of us normal people can care about for maybe a few minutes on a good day, but Bernie worries about more or less all the time.

I first met Bernie Sanders ten years ago, and I don’t believe there’s anything else he really thinks about. There’s no other endgame for him. He’s not looking for a book deal or a membership in a Martha’s Vineyard golf club or a cameo in a Guy Ritchie movie. This election isn’t a game to him; it’s not the awesomely repulsive dark joke it is to me and many others.

And the only reason this attention-averse, sometimes socially uncomfortable person is subjecting himself to this asinine process is because he genuinely believes the system is not beyond repair.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-case-for-bernie-sanders-20151103#ixzz3qdOWRN6z

As opposed to a politician who'll say anything to get office and once in do whatever helps the rich and powerful. Cough.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-case-for-bernie-sanders-20151103

[MohRokTah]

46. Nope., Taibbi got it all wrong a evidenced by the Sanders Data Theft scandal. eom

[Armstead]

6. Yes I'd much rather have Banksters and Corporate Monopolies looting Big Time

Than a campaign of actual people, who occasionally screw up

[Octafish]

10. That's what a member of an online mob of unhinged crazies would say.

Just sayin'.

[Armstead]

15. Yes I feel like part of an unhinged mob.

Actually, I'd say the people who are acting like Bernie is suddenly Don Corleone are being rather unhinged.

[merrily]

31. +1

[DanTex]

14. It's hard to argue that this is just a screw up. It was intentional stealing of data.

And it was by his national data director, not some low level person.

True, it wasn't Bernie himself doing the stealing, and the guy did get fired. But the thing is, rather than have the decency to simply apologize, Bernie decided to play the victim and then fundraise off of the incident.

I get that from deep inside the Sanders bunker, this is somehow all the DNC's fault. But if you pop your head out for some fresh air, back in the real world, this is not good for Bernie's reputation. And, like I said, he's not going to win the primary, so his reputation is really all that's at stake right now.

[Armstead]

18. A few people screwed up. But....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=919363


(To save myself some typing)

[DanTex]

21. Yeah, I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, on both ends, the crime and the punishment.

Stealing campaign data is not some trivial thing. That stuff is valuable and important.

[merrily]

33. Please define "stealing of data" and name the people officially making that claim.

[reformist2]

11. Do you seriously want to keep alienating 30% of democrats?

After yesterday's outrage, the DNC and Hillary's people are going to have to some major butt-kissing if they're going to bring Bernie's supporters back into the fold, should Hillary end up being the nominee.

[DanTex]

16. I'm not running for anything. Also, Bernie groupies don't make up 30% of the party.

[Depaysement]

12. "Online fanbase"

"Unhinged mob"

"Hateful lunatics"

Funny how Barack Obama had another word for "those people."

Voters.

[hobbit709]

19. "unhinged mob of online crazies" could well be applied to the supporters of someone else.

[DanTex]

22. Yes, Trump. Lots of similarities in terms of the supporters.

[hobbit709]

38. I wasn't thinking of one of the Republican loons.

[NCTraveler]

20. Truly sad to watch this happen.

But it's becoming more clear they don't come close to possessing the ability to control a campaign at the national level. It's actually starting to look like incompetence at the top levels of management in his campaign. His main campaign manager was a train wreck on TV yesterday.

[LuvLoogie]

24. He's like an angry Reince Priebus.

[workinclasszero]

23. I was always suspicious of Bernie

because of the things he has said in the past about the democratic party.

I thought many of his followers were a howling unprincipled Hate Hillary mob, ready and willing to use every dirty right wing lie they could find against her.

The evidence of that is on display 24/7 on DU, KOS, reddit and many other places online.

But I laughingly thought Bernie was better than his followers in the sense that I didn't think he would stoop to dirty tricks and taking the low road politically.

Now I know better, Bernie has joined his howling mob at last.

And I wonder if his plumbers are planning more black ops against the Hillary campaign and the democratic party as the primaries draw near and Bernies end approaches?

[upaloopa]

35. I hope the moderator brings up the breakin tonight.

"Senator Sanders, Why haven't you fired he other three employees of yours who stole Hillary's data?"

[marmar]

25. "unhinged mob of online crazies"

Statements like that usually reflect a bunch of projection.

[upaloopa]

32. a single person can't be a projection of a mob of crazies.

But a single person can recognize them when they see them.

[marmar]

37. Thank you for the Palin-esque word salad analysis.

[cantbeserious]

27. Keep Dreaming The Impossible Dream - The People Know Better

eom

[upaloopa]

28. I was thinking the same thing

All that holier than thou shit has run it's course.

I imagine when they post some anti Hillary stuff in the back of their minds the got to know it was them who broke into the data base.

That is out there front and center. You can lie about it but you can't hide it.

[MohRokTah]

36. "You can lie about it but you can't hide it."

Only partially true.

On DU, the numbers show they can definitely hide it fairly often, and do when the get four or more on a jury.

[LiberalArkie]

34. Yep. Just "ignorant white trash trailer idiots" like the HRC people call us

[NurseJackie]

48. I could only find one instance of that phrase being used on this web site.

And it appears that it wasn't an Hillary supporter who used the phrase. And based on this site's Google search, it only appears ONCE.

See for yourself: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027445350

Original search query: https://www.google.com/search?q="ignorant+white+trash+trailer+idiots"&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com ... 1 result (0.48 seconds)

Note to Jury: Above link is not a call-out. It's to show how rumors get started and to demonstrate that the poster's characterization of "just like the HRC people call us" is not factual.

[jalan48]

47. I'm beginning to understand the whole "dishonesty" issue that has plagued the Clintons.

[DanTex]

49. And you can imagine what they'd say if she actually stole another campaign's data.

[jalan48]

51. Yes, and in 08 it was the Obama campaign that benefited from a data breach. Poor Hillary.

[SoapBox]

50. Uh huh...

How much data has the Hill campaign looked at/taken when the firewalls have been down?

Oh ya....crickets.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. LOL! Look at all the fly swatter gifs that agree.

[watoos]

54. Anyone who thinks that this is going to hurt Bernie is sadly mistaken

I just sent Bernie my 2nd donation, and bought one of his hoodies.

Oh and, may the best man win.

[stonecutter357]

55. K&R!