2016 Postmortem
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251901931
A lot of Bernie supports don't see an even field on the DU. The above link is more than just an inflammatory post. How does this benefit the party (tent as one Hillary DUer used to insult every Bernie supporter in Hillaryland) or the DU?
I can't speak for other Bernie DUers. I can't see a post like the one at the link above from a long time respected DUer helping sooth feelings after the Democratic convention next summer IF Hillary wins.
I don't see much difference between Hillary and her love of Wall St and the R's that drink from the same trough.
Yesterday a DUer proclaimed the DU won't allow negative info about Hillary after the convention: upaloopa (9,269 posts)
6. After the primary that type of OP will not be permitted for the very reason I posted what I did. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141288912#post6
What do we look like when a Hillary story breaks and we won't even discuss it pro and con in the open?
After 20 years in the public eye she suddenly evolves to be close to Bernie when her numbers were a sure sign of trouble in the last few months. Help me here . TPP, LGBT, Wall St, self proclaimed centrist turned progressive, ... I don't see her staying true to her newly minted opinions IF she wins the 2016 general election.
There lies a problem. The polls show a large lack of trust of Hillary. She needs Bernie D's and I's to win. A post like the one in question certainly will prevent putting things behind us for a win in Nov 2016 should Hillary get that far.
Call me sexist if you want. Look back and you will see several posts where I said I would vote for Elizabeth for POTUS anytime.
Lock this post. Give me a hide. Ban me too.
As of now that post hasn't been touched with 148 replies, 2012 views, 24 R's.
IF a Loonie committed DU sedition, the post in question certainly has too by building resistance to voting Hillary. How the post in question is treated will say a lot to those that don't think the DU is an even field.
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VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)ppppffffftttttt! I stopped reading as soon as you said that...
ridic!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I don't see a difference.
She may not be as loonie as today's GOP, but she would most certainly be a Republican of 12 years ago.
She's a neocon, for Pete's sake.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)are no more than Closet Republicans,
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)its the difference between them and Republicans that I cannot see the difference in..
valerief
(53,235 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Hillary was called a "fascist like Mussolini" a couple of days ago, but the DU jury declined to hide it.
That's the uneven playing field at DU.
Oh, and fuck Loonies.
Sid
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)And they weren't joking.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Not kidding. You can't make this shit up.
Blue_Adept
(6,406 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Sorry you don't recognize that.
"Ban me too." Why?
"Call me sexist if you want" Why?
"The above link is more than just an inflammatory post."
This board is overwhelmingly Sanders. Tons of inflammatory posts by his supporters. Some only see what they want to.
I have seen very few people so desperate to paint themselves as victims as a Sanders supporter. Who has called you sexist? Goodman is brought here non-stop by Sanders supporters. If Paul loving Goodman is welcomed on this site, as he is, you don't seem to have a valid argument at all. You post is deeper into the META category than that to which you are concerned.
Omaha Steve
(99,961 posts)Where is the difference between her and R's both accepting Wall St $ ? That was my point. What is the difference? Tell me something that makes sense of it.
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NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It's simply a fact. Republicans overall do not want to. You are making generalizations that are known to be false. So Steve, it's all about the money to you? Clinton is getting more money from labor than Sanders. You will state here that is because she is better for labor than Sanders, correct? See that. It is the argument you are making and it simply falls flat in reality, knowing beforehand that you won't agree with the statement.
Sanders ranks 13th in the senate for defense contributions. That stat, just as you are doing here with WS, is used by Sanders supporters as to why Clinton is a hawk. Is Sanders one of the top hawks in the Senate? The whole argument you just presented is majorly flawed. Be consistent, is Clinton best for labor because she is leading in their contributions?
Edit: I really do love your overall posts and hope you don't find my replies to be offensive. Thanks.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)So who do you expect her to side with? The banksters who have been part of her backers for a long time, or the unions who come and go, with less money?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)According to the metric used here, who is leading in contributions from labor; Clinton or Sanders?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)So stop thinking that she will do good things for labor.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Just curious.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)what you are doing and what R's are doing regarding Clinton?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Clinton doesn't have a monopoly there. And a Democratic Socialist is better than every republican in every way and better than a lot of centrist democrats.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Exactly.
You can say anything you want when attacking Hillary or her supporters.
Make it nasty enough, and your OP goes straight to the Greatest Page.
This is more War on Christmas nonsense.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)I have that poster on full ignore along with a load of others, but I still see their posts...
BooScout
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