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15 Quotes From People Who Knew the Young Bernie Sanders (Original Post) UglyGreed Dec 2015 OP
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #1
That was then: this is now: at 73 nice but few accomplishments lewebley3 Dec 2015 #21
Are you kidding? Speaking out for what is right for 50 years? That's quite an accomplishment. reformist2 Dec 2015 #22
We keep hearing about things like "speaking out for 50 years" but precious FEW accomplishments. George II Dec 2015 #30
George I've met Bernie Sanders. I've voted for Bernie Sanders. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #37
I'm Bernie Sanders. Wait. I'm not. cosmicone Dec 2015 #38
*yawn* Non sequiturs are so borin... beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #39
yeah. he has no big fuck ups. he doesn't talk out his ass either. he's got character too. roguevalley Dec 2015 #44
It's all they've got. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #48
That sounds like a troop of monkeys! abakan Dec 2015 #73
Lol! That is hilarious! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #85
"Early Bernie" had his FIRST steady job at age 40. Hortensis Dec 2015 #76
Good thing you're here to carry water for the "sleazy sites" then, eh? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #86
I'm sorry you feel Bernie's background is fecal Hortensis Dec 2015 #88
Right, you're just here to spread your ... er truthiness around. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #89
Just trying to toughen you up for the fight, Scottie. Hortensis Dec 2015 #91
Amen! theislander Dec 2015 #55
He has a long list of accomplishments at every elected level he's worked at Kentonio Dec 2015 #61
We hear a lot about "morals" too. R B Garr Dec 2015 #65
And what are Hillary's greatest accomplishments? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #67
I thought this thread was about Senator Sanders. George II Dec 2015 #71
It's started out being about Bernie as a young man MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #77
I'd prefer that we stick to the topic, Manny. George II Dec 2015 #80
Given that you already moved it off-topic MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #82
How did I move this off-topic? George II Dec 2015 #83
LOL! nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #84
There you go, make an "accusation" then refuse to explain it. Deja vu all over again. Thanks! George II Dec 2015 #90
No its not anyone can speak out: Their Dem's in my family that have lewebley3 Dec 2015 #59
I suspect he's already done more than most of us ever will (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2015 #23
And? George II Dec 2015 #31
If Sander was effective: you would not suspect: You would know lewebley3 Dec 2015 #58
I would not presume to know... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #63
This discussion is about public people: Sanders resume is very thin in this area lewebley3 Dec 2015 #68
Bigger than Obama's was. Or Bill Clinton's. Or Jimmy Carter's. thesquanderer Dec 2015 #69
Obama was one of a Kind: Sanders is no Obama: Obama didn't wait til 73 lewebley3 Dec 2015 #74
And Bill Clinton? And Jimmy Carter? thesquanderer Dec 2015 #81
Sanders: is the same as Nader, MCgovern, Kucinch, etc losers lewebley3 Dec 2015 #93
Can't argue with logic like that! (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2015 #94
Bernie Sanders: Effective a2liberal Dec 2015 #24
Effective: at being a nice guy: but never getting things done: lewebley3 Dec 2015 #57
Would you care to counter the claims of the ad, rather than a2liberal Dec 2015 #64
My so called non-sequitor: are just fact you don't want to hear: lewebley3 Dec 2015 #66
lol a2liberal Dec 2015 #72
I just checkmated you in this argument lewebley3 Dec 2015 #75
"checkmated"? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #87
This supports the claim that Bernie is THE REAL DEAL Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #27
Many people are the real deal: but don't have the talent and experience to lead lewebley3 Dec 2015 #56
Hillary is still the Goldwater Girl. She is the Corporate Deal. Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernblu Dec 2015 #29
K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #2
Kos? That right-wing rag? arcane1 Dec 2015 #3
I damn near choked on my whiskey... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #32
11) from Michael Monte, Burlington government-worker before and after Sanders’ mayoral terms Hiraeth Dec 2015 #4
freakin commie tk2kewl Dec 2015 #25
and ... just look at his hair !! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #28
He had his two year old son on his lap at a work meeting in 1970, one year before Ms. Magazine began merrily Dec 2015 #5
+10000 Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #33
Allen Gear, a Republican member of the Board of Aldermen since 1979 LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #6
beat me to it. I will delete. This one is very good and shows why he has cross over appeal. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #8
I think so, it would very hard for any of the Republicans to run against him on LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #9
They are out there, I think. Just laying low and enjoying the holidays. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth Dec 2015 #7
Great sampling Armstead Dec 2015 #11
Great stuff. 99Forever Dec 2015 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #13
Are there any who remember his writings? n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #14
Factual or fiction writing? RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #19
I'll just leave it at "writings" .... n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #20
It appears the Hillary in your sig line has insecticide-resistant fleas. Scuba Dec 2015 #36
graffiti, random scribblings, doodles too? RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #41
It's the latest tactic from camp weathervane, third time I've seen that tonight. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #47
Oh, okay I get it. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #54
Give it a rest. Hissyspit Dec 2015 #60
What non-controversy? cosmicone Dec 2015 #62
; merrily Dec 2015 #15
These statements explain why Bernie has been elected and re-elected over and over JDPriestly Dec 2015 #16
Nice post JDPriestly! With each interview Bernie expresses our shared values with practical solution sorechasm Dec 2015 #40
Thanks again... Thespian2 Dec 2015 #43
Beautiful post. (nt) Stardust Dec 2015 #46
"Its about shared values" & "the issues" & morals... RiverLover Dec 2015 #52
Awesome! Bubzer Dec 2015 #17
This is a good one LOL madokie Dec 2015 #18
He even included that Pancho Villa sitting in the background! thereismore Dec 2015 #26
Great post...thanks for sharing... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #34
I recommend this MariaThinks Dec 2015 #35
K & R!!! Thespian2 Dec 2015 #42
15 quotes from people who knew Wibly Dec 2015 #45
K&R for exposure. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #49
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #50
K and R bigwillq Dec 2015 #51
I like #12: tblue37 Dec 2015 #53
"And don't give up on yourself..." He told the child who thought himself stupid. sorechasm Dec 2015 #79
knr Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #78
kick n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #92

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. We keep hearing about things like "speaking out for 50 years" but precious FEW accomplishments.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:57 PM
Dec 2015

I've been speaking out for almost 60 years, but not qualified to be President.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
37. George I've met Bernie Sanders. I've voted for Bernie Sanders.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:19 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders is a friend of mine. George, you're no Bernie Sanders.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
38. I'm Bernie Sanders. Wait. I'm not.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

I cannot refuse to answer questions about ISIS and storm out of the stage.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
44. yeah. he has no big fuck ups. he doesn't talk out his ass either. he's got character too.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:04 AM
Dec 2015

He's decent as hell. And he never sold his soul. That's why people love him. Her? Crickets ...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. It's all they've got.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:52 AM
Dec 2015

Since they have nothing legitimate to use to impugn the man's character they make up shit, throw it at the wall and hope it sticks.

And they wonder why people have to hold their noses around them.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
85. Lol! That is hilarious!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:57 PM
Dec 2015

And yes, they are like monkeys who only know how to react by flinging feces when they get upset.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
76. "Early Bernie" had his FIRST steady job at age 40.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:52 PM
Dec 2015

And that was after he was elected for the first time, not when he was a hiree and easily let go. I like Bernie, and I really don't mind someone taking a few decades to stabilize and find something he's good at, or at least hold onto, but I'm mentioning this for some balance because the OP is an extremely edited list of quotes.

So, how about this: From youth to 40, Bernie was usually low income, downright poor much of the time, often unemployed though apparently only once on unemployment (most jobs didn't qualify him for it), and flitting from job to job.

At 23 Bernie graduated with a four-year degree (and got married).
They wanted to live off the land, and gave it try before divorcing a couple years later.

Ensuing jobs included
Aide in psychiatric hospital.
Teaching preschoolers.
Property tax clerk.
Registration clerk for food stamp program.

1970-1980, when not working he campaigned, sent unpaid or solicited political screeds to many media, visited many places, ran for senate and governor twice each -- once achieving a whole 6% of the vote.

During this period Bernie also shared parenting of a son (who is apparently doing fine and loyal to him), renting a little house for him to visit. Quotes from visitors about that house include: “Pretty sparse,” "stark and dark,” and "The electricity was turned off a lot,” “I remember him running an extension cord down to the basement. He couldn’t pay his bills.”

Other jobs included:
Carpenter, briefly (reportedly a bad one)
Freelance writer (including that plodding screed about male-female relationships)

Quotes from people who knew him also include, “He was always poor” and “Virtually unemployed” and “Just one step above hand to mouth." It was in this period that he used his unemployment benefit for a few months, after which he became for “the doing away with all time limitations for unemployment benefits.” Other quotes include, “I don’t know what he did for money,” everything was always campaigning."

In 1977, tired and beginning to gray, Bernie started making low-budget films, about social and economic injustices of course, and struggled on economically.

In 1981, Bernie ran for mayor of his town and through a bit of a fluke combined with his usual intensity, he won, and achieved his first steady income of some $33K+ per year. And the rest is history.

Now, I would vote for a person with this history, but anyone who expects it to play well with conservatives in the habit of idealizing a "Christian" work ethic and using worldly success to judge a person's worth is fooling himself.

The only reason Bernie's not already being portrayed as next thing to a jumped-up skid-row bum by the sleazy sites so often copied in here to bash Hillary is that they want him to cut into her support first.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
86. Good thing you're here to carry water for the "sleazy sites" then, eh?
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:02 PM
Dec 2015

You all just couldn't let a positive thread go by without smearing the feces around.

Stay classy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
88. I'm sorry you feel Bernie's background is fecal
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

and should not be discussed, Scottie. I disagree. It is a part of him and part of what has made him what he is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
91. Just trying to toughen you up for the fight, Scottie.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:58 PM
Dec 2015

The man wasn't in prison, on drugs, beating women, after all. Bernie just spent unusually long finding his feet 40 years ago! And that's too much to handle?

If you react this way to simple truths about Bernie's background posted by another Bernie admirer, how on earth are you going to handle the versions the Right plans to dish with the $1 billion they'll spend to defeat our nominee?

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
61. He has a long list of accomplishments at every elected level he's worked at
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

You however seem to be asking why an independent hasn't achieved great things nationally. Well don't worry, he's about to.

R B Garr

(17,020 posts)
65. We hear a lot about "morals" too.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:25 PM
Dec 2015

Look at the responses in this thread touting their morals. That's what's behind most of this bandwagon.

People have their own morals and don't like being preached to. Most of their so-called "issues" are just moral interpretations. Notice no one cares now that Bernie is pro drones. I guess that's not an "issue" anymore since Bernie is for them.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
77. It's started out being about Bernie as a young man
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

So what's your point? That you'd prefer not to answer my question?

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
82. Given that you already moved it off-topic
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't see how your prefence is consistent with your actions.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
59. No its not anyone can speak out: Their Dem's in my family that have
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:23 PM
Dec 2015


spoken longer. Sanders had not had much results

thesquanderer

(12,002 posts)
63. I would not presume to know...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:40 PM
Dec 2015

how accomplished you or any other given DU member might be or become.

However, I think it's a pretty safe bet that, as mayor, congressman, senator, activist, inspirational presidential candidate to hundreds of thousands (millions?) raising the profile of numerous important issues, there are few if any of us on DU who will achieve as much.

thesquanderer

(12,002 posts)
69. Bigger than Obama's was. Or Bill Clinton's. Or Jimmy Carter's.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:45 PM
Dec 2015

In the unlikely event he were to win, at swearing in, Sanders would probably be the most experienced, accomplished Democratic president since LBJ.

thesquanderer

(12,002 posts)
81. And Bill Clinton? And Jimmy Carter?
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

Also, Sanders is one of a kind in his own way.

There is a large group responding to him in ways similar to how many responded to Obama, too.

And there's nothing wrong with running at 73.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
64. Would you care to counter the claims of the ad, rather than
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:14 PM
Dec 2015

post your trademark non-sequitor one-liners?

(Not sure why I'm even taking the bait...)

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
72. lol
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dec 2015

Anybody reading this thread can see who is presenting facts and who is making blanket claims without any support. Anyways, I'm done here, feel free to have the last content-free word.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
27. This supports the claim that Bernie is THE REAL DEAL
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:23 PM
Dec 2015

It supports the notion of his consistency

It shows that Bernie believes in what he does and says and doesn't triangulate or wait for polls to tell him what to say.
Damned refreshing.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
56. Many people are the real deal: but don't have the talent and experience to lead
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is a real deal Dem, she has been working for Dem's since
she left college: her and Bill didn't just talk a good game: They
got into the game. Sanders sat out his political career in a small
one party state.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
70. Hillary is still the Goldwater Girl. She is the Corporate Deal.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

She strikes me as a disenfranchised 'moderate' republican. SHe is too far down the wall street corporate rabbit hole to ever have my trust. They will be pulling her strings more so than any other democrat in the race.

The Kabuki has no chance of diminishing under a Clinton administration. ENding the Kabiki at least has a chance under a Bernie administration.

Response to lewebley3 (Reply #21)

Docreed2003

(16,907 posts)
32. I damn near choked on my whiskey...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:14 PM
Dec 2015

The other night when I saw that posted in another thread. I didn't even bother to respond because the post said dkos should be dismissed because it was a bunch of political junkies, and I wanted so bad to say WTF is DU? The pretzel twisting logic of some folks is just astounding.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
4. 11) from Michael Monte, Burlington government-worker before and after Sanders’ mayoral terms
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015
”Bernie was never anti-growth, anti-development, or anti-business.

He just wanted businesses to be responsible toward their employees and the community. He wanted local entrepreneurs to thrive. He wanted people to have good jobs that pay a living wage.

If you could deal with that, you could deal with Bernie and Bernie would deal with you.”

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. He had his two year old son on his lap at a work meeting in 1970, one year before Ms. Magazine began
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

publishing. If that doesn't speak volumes, I don't know what does.

All the willful ignorance, spinning, nitpicking and double standards in the world are not going to convince me he is not a good person.

LiberalArkie

(15,739 posts)
6. Allen Gear, a Republican member of the Board of Aldermen since 1979
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

“He’s done things I don’t think we Republicans could have done...

“He’s taken a lot of very Republican ideas and put them in place. Such as combining all of the garages of the various city departments and putting them into a single public-works department, initially a Republican proposal, to gain efficiency in handling city rolling stock ...

“He’s put a lot of modern accounting practices and money-management practices into place that are good Republican business practices.”

LiberalArkie

(15,739 posts)
9. I think so, it would very hard for any of the Republicans to run against him on
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

Republican values. I don't know how many real Republicans are out there any more though.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
10. They are out there, I think. Just laying low and enjoying the holidays.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:27 PM
Dec 2015

Probably watching in a stunned silence.

The Silent Majority
The silent majority is an unspecified large majority of people in a country or group who do not express their opinions publicly. The term was popularized by U.S. President Richard Nixon in a November 3, 1969 speech in which he said, "And so tonight—to you, the great silent majority of my fellow Americans—I ask for your support."

Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. Great sampling
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

What I wish could get through the filters is that's he actually very practical, and solution oriented in real world terms. That -- combined with his idealism -- would make for a refreshing and great change in the nation's leadership.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
41. graffiti, random scribblings, doodles too?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:59 PM
Dec 2015

I figured while you are at it, might well include everything, okay?
Or don't you have anything specific?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
47. It's the latest tactic from camp weathervane, third time I've seen that tonight.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:49 AM
Dec 2015

The memo said that every time something positive is posted about Bernie they need to bring up his "writings" and pretend that means something.

I believe we're supposed to act outraged instead of pointing and laughing at their lame attempts to derail the thread.



merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. ;
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

11)

Michael Monte, Burlington government-worker before and after Sanders’ mayoral terms

”Bernie was never anti-growth, anti-development, or anti-business.

He just wanted businesses to be responsible toward their employees and the community. He wanted local entrepreneurs to thrive. He wanted people to have good jobs that pay a living wage.

If you could deal with that, you could deal with Bernie and Bernie would deal with you.”

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. These statements explain why Bernie has been elected and re-elected over and over
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:03 PM
Dec 2015

and will be our nominee.

Bernie is very "frugal."

He is a problem-solver. He solves problems by referring back to the values that ground him and then thinking what he should do about a problem. He is a very rational person. That's what I like about him so much.

He can be moved by his emotions, but he checks himself. In his early speeches, you could see him pause and think and sort of check his statement to make sure it was based on his values and expressed what he really thinks.

He is just amazing. We will be so lucky once he is president.

Also, he believes in bringing people together. He is the leader we need now. We need to be brought together. Bernie will work to do that. He will find a way to remind us all of our deeply shared values and come together.

People are shocked at how highly many of us think of Bernie. They think it is some sort of political cult. It isn't. It's about shared values. There is nothing personally about Bernie that draws us to him EXCEPT his principles and values of fair play, of working together, of improving life for all of us and for making our society as excellent as it can be.

While campaigning for Bernie, the enthusiasm of young people struck me as unusual. I have never seen anything like it. So, skeptic that I am, I asked a young woman, maybe 20 or so why she liked Bernie. She answered: "The issues."

Bernie's stances on the issues are so affirmative, so right,, so morally and practically correct. That's why we like him. And the reason he is so strong on the issues is that he thinks about his values and then decides where he stands on the issues. He is not sticking his finger into the air and feeling the collective temperature on the issues. He goes back to the fundamental American values that we all, Republicans and Democrats, all believe in and then he asks which possible policy best serves those values. And he has worked on this method for so long that it comes naturally to him.

What a great man. I do think that Bernie will be the best president we have ever had.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
40. Nice post JDPriestly! With each interview Bernie expresses our shared values with practical solution
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:21 PM
Dec 2015
Activist and University of Chicago student Mike Parker

“[Bernie] was very smart and very policy oriented…

“He would say, ‘What can government do to solve this problem?’ Or, ‘What policy could be the kind of thing we should be asking for?’

Knowing someone like him was part of the inspiration for [the activism] we’re doing [now].”


He has changed the language of this campaign, and so has already won.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
52. "Its about shared values" & "the issues" & morals...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:48 AM
Dec 2015

Thank you for sharing your thoughts here, JDP. So well-stated.

No, we're not a cult. Just a large number of people who believe in doing the right thing for the right reasons. Bringing the US back to being run for her people, not solely corporate profits, is not a radical thing at all. Just a fight for Democracy.

Its the right thing to do.

This has to end~

madokie

(51,076 posts)
18. This is a good one LOL
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:12 PM
Dec 2015
Burlington resident to Mayor Bernie Sanders as he was making the rounds to speak to his citizens and hear their complaints:

“I saw you on TV the other night, with my son…

“And my son says to me, ‘That Mayor Sanders, he’s a communist, you know.’

And do you know what I say to him?

I say to my son, ‘Don’t go around saying such things where intelligent people can hear.

They’ll think you are stupid.’”


Bernie, our next President

Docreed2003

(16,907 posts)
34. Great post...thanks for sharing...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Dec 2015

Sadly the detractors are already showing up. Instead of just ignoring or, gasp, say something remotely nice, they can't help but come in and crap all over a great post. This is fantastic, thank you for sharing!

tblue37

(65,554 posts)
53. I like #12:
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 09:47 AM
Dec 2015

Will Raap, founder of the 750-member Burlington-based Vermont Businesses for Social Responsibility

http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-burlington-city-sustainable-future/



“Bernie realized that the economy doesn’t have to be dominated by bad guys {emphasis added}.

He saw that and he fostered it.”


From the comments:


(Exchange starts at) 2:36

Bernie talking summer camp and trying to teach the kids some Vermont history.

(Kids talking at the same time) “I was born stupid... and ugly”

“Wait a minute, wait a minute… come here”

“You think you’re dumb?”

“Yep”

“Well, I’m the mayor of this city and I don’t think you’re dumb”


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sorechasm

(631 posts)
79. "And don't give up on yourself..." He told the child who thought himself stupid.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:47 PM
Dec 2015

What a heart.

Thank you tblue37. That was adorable.

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