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New USAToday/Suffolk poll: Hillary 56%-BS 29% (Original Post) JaneyVee Dec 2015 OP
Nice! workinclasszero Dec 2015 #1
Excellent (n/t) leftynyc Dec 2015 #2
K & R Iliyah Dec 2015 #3
Enjoyed recommending this so much.... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #4
Chuckle. riversedge Dec 2015 #6
ok I just had to try it, it is kind of fun misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #32
Tis the season to be jolly, fa la la la riversedge Dec 2015 #5
Happy to rec bump this awesome poll news! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #7
WTG, Hillary!!! lunamagica Dec 2015 #8
can anyone find the internals? n/t questionseverything Dec 2015 #9
here... brooklynite Dec 2015 #15
no break down of the dems by age questionseverything Dec 2015 #22
Considering what she has always advocated for & represented misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #10
Holding at about 2:1 for Clinton still. MineralMan Dec 2015 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #23
Florida is a crucial swing state, as we all know. MineralMan Dec 2015 #24
Up, up........and away. oasis Dec 2015 #12
Not one word in the story RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #13
See #15 brooklynite Dec 2015 #16
363 Democratic voters?!?!?! RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #19
I know! Science and math can really suck sometimes!!!!! Walk away Dec 2015 #25
Why didn't they poll bernies FB page? huh? huh??? misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #30
Wrong! RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #34
I think when the results are like 99% of all the other polls the margin of error... Walk away Dec 2015 #35
You don't get it, do you? RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #36
Here are a whole lot of polls with similar results. They are all scientific polls with... Walk away Dec 2015 #37
How can you use real science RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #38
This is so boring...It's up to you , but if you check the other polls with the same or... Walk away Dec 2015 #39
You REALLY don't get my point RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #41
I count 8 cookies here that you can add to the total. riversedge Dec 2015 #40
About a month old, but... FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #14
I guess bad news is hard to come by... brooklynite Dec 2015 #18
He He! Walk away Dec 2015 #27
Awesome! MaggieD Dec 2015 #17
So what's wrong with this poll? Cha Dec 2015 #20
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Dec 2015 #21
Almost 30% bernie. Hang in there! misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #26
Now I'm starting to pity the Bernie Campaign! Walk away Dec 2015 #29
well on the positive side, he's still got .. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #31
Rekick MaggieD Dec 2015 #28

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
15. here...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:26 PM
Dec 2015
This survey of 1,000 likely voters was conducted between December 2 and December 6, 2015, and is based on live telephone interviews of adults 18 years of age or older, residing in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, and who intend to vote in 2016. Quota and demographic information -- including region, race, and age -- were determined from 2010 Census data. Samples of both standard landlines (65 percent) and cell phones (35 percent) were called using a probability-proportionate-to-size method, which means that the phone numbers assigned to each state were proportional to the number of adult residents in each state. States were grouped into four general regions. Respondents in the households were selected by initially asking for the youngest adult. Surveys were administered in English and Spanish. The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points. Error margins increase for smaller subgroups in the cross-tabulation document that follows. All surveys may be subject to other sources of error, including but not limited to coverage error and measurement error. The margin of error for the Democratic primary/caucus subset of 363 likely voters is +/- 5.1 percentage points. The margin of error for the Republican primary/caucus subset of 357 likely voters is +/- 5.2 percentage points.

http://www.suffolk.edu/academics/10741.php


Clinton takes 70% of Blacks, 62% of Hispanics, 62% of women, 49% (plurality) of men.

http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/12_8_2015_partial_tables.pdf

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
33. Considering what she has always advocated for & represented
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:27 PM
Dec 2015

..these numbrs do not surprise me.
She has such a solid vast & loyal base.
And she has worked very hard to make this all happen.
This success didn't just come to her, she went out to get it.

HRC 2016

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
11. Holding at about 2:1 for Clinton still.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

Since the second debate, really. I'm not seeing where the change will be coming from.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
13. Not one word in the story
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:58 PM
Dec 2015

about the methodology behind the poll.
They also forgot to mention that about 25% of "likely" voters don't know enough about Sanders. (don't ask for a link, ask google.)

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
19. 363 Democratic voters?!?!?!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:16 PM
Dec 2015

How can this be legitimate of the millions of Democratic voters that are out there?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
30. Why didn't they poll bernies FB page? huh? huh???
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:13 PM
Dec 2015

Wtf kinda poll is this anyway.

They clearly omitted bernies fans. If they'd have wanted to include them then they should have posted it on bernies FB page. Because...well.

I smell a conspiracy!

Sarcasm off.

(How come its never fair when bernie loses?)

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
34. Wrong!
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:43 PM
Dec 2015

It's just that it's such a small sample size. How do they come up with the small margin of error when they have such a small sample size?
I dunno.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
35. I think when the results are like 99% of all the other polls the margin of error...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

starts to narrow a little! But don't feel bad. Sanders won the Time Magazine Readers Poll!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
36. You don't get it, do you?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

It's not about Sanders or other polls, it's about the small sample size.
How can 300 odd people represent about 150 million?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
37. Here are a whole lot of polls with similar results. They are all scientific polls with...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

different variables and they all arrive at about the same conclusions.

Now, they aren't click polls like the Time Magazine poll, and I know Sander's supporters feel that internet polls are the only ones that count, but when several polls using real math and science have similar results over time, the margin of error narrows.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
38. How can you use real science
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:31 AM
Dec 2015

with such a small sample size? I was taught that the larger the sample size, the smaller the margin of error, not getting the same results as other polls.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
39. This is so boring...It's up to you , but if you check the other polls with the same or...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:08 AM
Dec 2015

similar results, you will see that these polls use all different amounts of sample sizes. If you look at the aggregate results of these polls then the margin of error is reduced to an average of the polls' sample sizes. The fact that these polls are showing basically the same results make this even more likely.

Now, the click polls (like Time Magazine) that your fellow travelers are so fond of, use large groups of people but some may be voting 10 or 20 times.



if you can get Sander's voters to show up at the polls and vote two or three times, you might just have a formula for success!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
41. You REALLY don't get my point
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:25 PM
Dec 2015

Do you. It is NOT about Sanders at all. It's about polling in general, and why it has become unreliable

The last presidential election's polls ALL say that Romney was going to win, and he didn't.

Keep ribbing me about Sanders. I am saying that NO polls are reliable, and we should ALL wait until the votes are cast.

riversedge

(70,272 posts)
40. I count 8 cookies here that you can add to the total.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:47 AM
Dec 2015

And if you use your imagination--you can imagine eating them and all will be better.



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