2016 Postmortem
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From the Boss
President Obama says climate change increases the likelihood of war and terrorism.
In an interview with The New York Times's Thomas Friedman, which will be featured in the final episode of Showtime's climate series "Years of Living Dangerously" on Monday, Obama voiced grave concern over how global warming can be a national security issue for the United States.
Instability brought on by climate change, Obama said, is what creates an environment for terrorism.
"They dont have a lot of margin for error, and that has national security implications. When people are hungry, when people are displaced, when there are a lot of young people, particularly young men, who are drifting without prospects for the future, the fertility of the soil for terrorism ends up being significant," Obama said, "and it can have an impact on us."
He also said that climate change can lead to wars by fostering conflict over resources.
"Entire countries can be finding themselves unable to feed themselves, and the potential incidence of conflict that arises out of that that gets your attention," Obama said. "Its not just the actual disasters that might arise, it is the accumulating stresses that are placed on a lot of different countries and the possibility of war, conflict, refugees, displacement that arise from a changing climate.
When Friedman noted the four-year drought in Syria, which spurred the uprising there, Obama said it is a sign of what happens when countries "are just barely hanging on."
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/208634-obama-ties-between-climate-and-terrorism-ripe-in-poorer-countries
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Good to know Obama has been listening to Bernie. Finally.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Bernie has been talking abt climate change for longer than Obama and it is good to see Obama caring like Bernie has for a decade.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Climate change = Terrorism is not the kind of thing you bring up at a debate on the same weekend of major attacks.
It may be true, but it wasn't good politics to say it.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That's why the Bernie people like him so much. He tells it like it is. The days of 'good politics' as you put it are over. Enough of whimpering in the face of it all. Lay it on the line and quit squirming when trying to lead. We are so lucky to have someone like Bernie. Finally!
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)Yeah, who cares if millennials and greens and the rest of the world -- lose interest and lose trust in our party or in American leadership on climate or international security -- much better to try to get that possibly ONE single climate change denier to switch votes -- and he will, he will - IF ONLY we are vewwy, vewwy quiet about any "inconvenient truths" during a debate.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)we can't continue to pander to the brain dead when it comes to our security.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Spoken like a true Third Waye®.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Of course they don't have a clue about the Earth, so yeah, daffy.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)for those of us on the left anyway. Low info types may differ...
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Makes you wonder how often they consult a magic 8-ball for their fact checking.
tazkcmo
(7,306 posts)And don't give me this has lots of experts at his disposal or that he's an intelligent man or that any half brained nitwit could figure this out if they weren't fixated on being against anything Sen. Sanders might say.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Pentagon Report: U.S. Military Considers Climate Change a 'Threat Multiplier' That Could Exacerbate Terrorism
BY ZOË SCHLANGER 10/14/14
The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability, the Pentagon writes. These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently-stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and conditions that foster terrorism.
The military is integrating climate change considerations into all its operations, including in its training for war scenarios.
We are considering the impacts of climate change in our war games and defense planning scenarios, and are working with our Combatant Commands to address impacts in their areas of responsibility.
I thought this was fairly common knowledge among people paying attention.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)they are trying to smear Bernie. People on here are also.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)because it takes a 3 digit IQ and multi-step reasoning to understand. If it don't fit on a bumper sticker they don't "get it."
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Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Duppers
(28,134 posts)Sadly, I know too many of them.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)struck down comprehensively and in detail, with video proof (or, even more often, Clinton's own words)
can they just not sleep or go through their daily lives knowing that something in the debate has gone unassailed, and just have to throw something out even if they know it'll get shot down?
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Yet Bernie said that twice. Greatest security threat we face. LOL!
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Do you think Obama believes our largest SECURITY threat is climate change? Please stop acting like Obama would have ever said anything so foolish.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)for a long time. They have kept it relatively
quiet, because they had other fish to fry, and
did not want to "worry" the nation.
elleng
(131,416 posts)A Link Between Climate Change and ISIS Isnt Crazy.
Conservatives mock the Democratic presidential candidate Martin OMalley, but theres evidence of a connection between drought and the Syrian civil war.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/martin-omalley-isis-climate-change/399131/
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)they gotta fit Obama under there with all the poor people and the Pentagon.