Mike Papantonio with Thom Hartmann: Why the DLC & Third Way Are "Freaked Out" About Bernie

[marmar]

[MohRokTah]

1. Papantonio and Hartmann are idiots.

The DLC folded years ago.

[marmar]

2. Please. Old stale candy in a new wrapper.

[think]

3. Harold Ford was chairman of the DLC until 2011. The Clinton Foundation purchased the records of DLC

in 2011:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/07/dlc-records-to-clinton-foundation-037215

[sabrina 1]

5. They had to change their name, their policies were so unpopular. The Third Way didn't

help as their new title. Their policies, still the same, are even more unpopular now that we have had a chance to see how damaging they are.

[MohRokTah]

6. They did NOT change their name. THEY FOLDED.

They no longer exist. The DLC folded up and closed their doors.

They are no more.

They have gone on to the great beyond.

This is a dead PAC.

[kristopher]

44. 3rd Way, DLC both try to hide RW economics behind curtain of liberal social issues

Just like within the Republican party they hide RW economics behind conservative social issues.

Either way you go, you get RW economics that screw the 99%.

The Bernie Revolution is set to change that formula for the next generation at least. Throw off your shackles.

[Fawke Em]

48. No. They BECAME the Democratic Party.

No need to run third rail.

But, some of us are trying to push them out and get the party back on the left rail again.

They're still in existence, but they're known as the DNC now.

[UglyGreed]

49. Spot on

[wyldwolf]

8. It's the 'progressive' boogeyman

Decades from now, when 'progressives' are still trying to score their first presidential win, they'll still be blaming the DLC.

[MohRokTah]

11. I don't consider them progressives.

I consider myself progressive.

This is the radical leftist extremist bogeyman. The Third Way organization which claimed the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party is nowhere near as powerful as the DLC once was and will never hold the kind of sway the DLC once held, thus the radical leftist extremists resort to the tried and true DLC bogeyman, even though that organization no longer exists.

[wyldwolf]

12. notice I use ' ' around progressives

I guess I could use puritopians...

[oasis]

31. "Puritopians". Good one. (eom)

[marmar]

20. Progressives tend not to use terms like.....

.... "radical leftist extremist". That sounds like something you'd hear on Bill O'Reilly's show.

[MohRokTah]

22. Progressives use erms like

Radical Right Extremists and Radical Leftist Extremist all the time.

The radical extremists refuse to acknowledge what they are on both sides of the spectrum

[marmar]

23. Faux progressives perhaps

[MohRokTah]

24. Thank you for proving my point!

[marmar]

25. Uh huh

The emoticon is a dead giveaway

[AgingAmerican]

27. Name one 'extreme' belief of Bernie Sanders

There are none.

[DianeK]

28. you took the words right out of my mouth..

would love for someone to define exactly that that phrase means

[LWolf]

17. As they pointed out,

they're all the same, regardless of the label.

DLC. "New Democrats." Third Way. Centrists. The names are legion, but underlying those labels, they are all neo-liberals, and they have taken the party in a "bloodless coup."

We either take it back or leave it, because I don't get in line for nor behind any neo-liberal.

[UglyGreed]

47. They are still

around, many are here........

[merrily]

53. A rose by any other name...Clearly, they are talking about DLC types. They have so many aliases.

Third Way, "progressives," New Democrats. Same bit, different name. Big deal.

[antigop]

4. EXCELLENT! Thanks, marmar. K&R.

[antigop]

7. I wish I could rec this post more than once. Thank you. nt

[tokenlib]

9. Democrats for the Leisure Class, they change names but never disappear....

And Hillary is their candidate.... And any turn to the left is only temporary ...

[haikugal]

10. Thanks marmar!

Keep 'em coming!

[randys1]

13. Neither are idiots, both are extremely informed and intelligent men.

A person can hold two thoughts in their head at the same time:

thought one

Bernie Sanders is the only candidate running who is truly independent of Wall Street and Corporate corruption

thought two

If Bernie cant get the nomination, one must support Hillary Clinton as if their very lives depend on it, because it does

[senz]

30. Which is why real democrats support Bernie for the Primary.

Now is the time to fight for the American people. If he loses, it's too late.

Simple fact.

[randys1]

33. So real Democrats will abandon voting entirely if Bernie loses the primary?

[senz]

34. Don't even try, randys1.

People will do whatever they think right. Everyone listens to his/her own conscience. Neither you nor anyone else on DU has any control over that.

But for you to try to bait any of us into breaking the TOS reflects very poorly on you.

I hope you know that.

[randys1]

45. NOt an attempt to bait you to break the rules, an attempt to WAKE you up, but it is a

waste of time.

Those who are predisposed, thru privilege mostly, to withhold their votes, will do that, regardless of the damage.

My ONLY reason for MONTHS of calling people out for their "Bernie or the highway" attitude was to try and illustrate for them how selfish and wrong it is.

For my troubles I have had many posts hidden and am on the edge now as we speak.

[Fawke Em]

50. We are awake.

HRC and the Third Way is more of the same. The only difference is the stance on social issues. On economic and foreign policies, the stances aren't all the dissimilar.

A lot of us know this now.

And some of us aren't so privileged.

[randys1]

51. Oh, so you acknowledge the HUGE difference between the two parties on the multiple

LIFE AND DEATH social issues?

Good.

[antigop]

14. "What is this party(Dem) doing to our economy?" nt

[Enthusiast]

15. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

DLC = Third Way in all but name.

[antigop]

16. anybody know anything about the book Thom mentions at the 3:30 mark? nt

[cosmicone]

18. Papantonio and Thom Hartmann

Beavis and Butthead are funnier.

[senz]

36. LOL, I'd hate to see what you think of

our nation's founders.

[tritsofme]

19. Who is freaking out? After Hillary's dominate debate performance and Biden being out

I have seen nothing but smiles...

[cantbeserious]

29. Keep Dreaming The Impossible Dream - The People Know Better

eom

[cosmicone]

38. aaaaaaaah "the people"

[cantbeserious]

39. One Must Be A Member Of The 1% To Act In Such A Contemptuous Manner

eom

[cosmicone]

40. It was not contemptuous

It is called "reality"

If there was a pool of libertarians/republicans/independents and 25% democrats supporting Bernie, we would have had a President Ron Paul or President Dennis Kucinich a long time ago.

[cantbeserious]

41. So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently

eom

[cosmicone]

43. I see it with reality. Your own experience may vary. n/t

[tritsofme]

42. Really not sure what you're talking about.

But perhaps it is a step back toward reality, if you are describing the possibility of a Sanders victory as an impossible dream...

[colsohlibgal]

21. DLC Set a The Path

The Hillary Devotee minions are intrepid, I will give hem that.

Deny, deny, deny. No DLC so obviously the third way Wall Street types are no more.

I will take Pap and Thom over Hillary defenders all day everyday.

[artislife]

26. "They fail to ask the hard questions."

What is this party doing to our economy?

I would add further, what are they doing to our society and to our planet?

I don't want Not as Bad, I want what is The Best

[PowerToThePeople]

32. "They're all Republicans."

Damn right!

[senz]

35. I'm so glad you caught that.

It is absolute TRUTH.

That's why I think the Third Way should start their own political party and return the Democratic Party to those who hold genuinely democratic principles. FDR principles. Pre-Reagan principles.

Bernie Sanders principles.

[antigop]

37. kick nt

[UglyGreed]

46. Don't forget the

New Democrats

[Dem2]

52. Who cares what the DLC and Third Way think?

Of all the dozens of political emails I get a day, I've never got one from either group.

Google DLC, you'll get nothing related to politics since the DLC is defunct. Third was is some remote organization that's nothing more than a boogie man used to make over-the-top arguments against certain Democrats they disagree with.