Bernie Sanders: The Best Democrat We Have Had the Privilege to Vote for in a Long Time!

[sabrina 1]

On the issues, without a doubt, there is no one I can think of who has better represented Democrats in Congress and in the Senate than Bernie Sanders over the past several decades.

There are only a few other Democrats who got it as right as Bernie Sanders on the Neocon policies of the disastrous Bush Administration as Bernie Sanders.

They never fooled him with their lies and he wasn't shy about saying so.

Elected office isn't the place for people to go through the learning process.

We need leaders who lead, who don't get it wrong on major issues at the time they are faced with decisions.

If you have to evolve on issue after issue, do it BEFORE being in a position of power where wrong decisions can harm so many people

Thanks Sen. Sanders for giving Democrats a Democrat they could only have dreamed of to vote for in this election.

Now we have to elect as many more Democrats like Bernie, for Congress and the Senate as we can.

He is perfect example of what a Democrat should be!

[cantbeserious]

1. Roger That - Vote Progressive - Just Say No To The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Establishment

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[sabrina 1]

2. The people have bee rejecting them and thir awful right wing policies of a while now.

The party can either listen to the people or listen to Wall St.

Wall St isn't helping them win.

So it is logical that any party that wants to remain relevant, would start listening to the people.

We'll see what happens, but blaming the voters for their failures isn't going to help them any more than it has already.

[cantbeserious]

4. Listen To The People - Or - Listen To Wall Street - That Progressive Choice Is Easy

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[tk2kewl]

3. All true

Regardless of wether or not one believes him to be a *real* member of the Democratic Party

[whatchamacallit]

5. Boy, I'll say

The he's not a democrat mantra rings shrill and hollow.

[sabrina 1]

7. What's 'bugging' them is that HE is a Democrat in every sense of the word and people

are reminded of what a Democrat should look like when they listen to him, see him, look at his record. The contrast of what has passed for democrats becomes starkly obvious.

Can't have that. We were supposed to get used to fake Dems like Lieberman eg, and just go along because the 'other guys are worse'.

Bernie is a Democrat. An FDR Democrat.

[Voice for Peace]

26. well put

Great op.

[99th_Monkey]

6. "He is perfect example of what a Democrat should be!" <--this

is what pisses some people -- not to mention names -- off so much,
because I imagine it's downright embarrassing to Establishment Dems
to have a candidate in the race who's the 'real deal' as in FDR's new deal.
This is why we hear, "BUT HE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT!" so much.

It was laughable during the forum when Hillary managed to slip-in some
vague 'new deal' references into one of her responses; which would have
been the furthest thing from her mind, were it not for Bernie stepping up,
and reminding the nation what a real Democrat acts and sounds like.

[sabrina 1]

9. It sure does 'bug' some people to have an example of what a Democrat is

doing so well in this race showing that we can still have democrats in office who actually represent democrats and squash the lies that the Country is 'center right'.

He's blowing all the nonsense we've been fed over the past number or years.

[Maineman]

8. Interesting that not being a long term Democrat made him a great Democrat. What happened to

the democratic party? Corporate money & right wing Democrats would be my guess.

[sabrina 1]

10. They couldn't buy him, threaten him, take away chairs or whatever they do to good Dems

who don't want to be a part of the whole rigged system.

Too bad a few of the other good Dems we've had didn't follow his example. By being an Independent they had to negotiate with him rather than the other way around. His votes could not be taken for granted, he was able to push for Democratic issues which from inside the party is very difficult these days.

[Voice for Peace]

29. in theory, independence of thought

should lead one to the highest and most humane of democratic principles.

But the current party has few such independent, fearless thinkers.

The demigods of egomania fear and greed must have done them all in.

[grasswire]

11. He is also a MORAL EXAMPLE for young Americans.

I was just thinking about this.

Bernie stands for the things that used to be commonplace in middle America. Decency. Compassion. Kindness. Generosity.

He is everything I want for America. And everything that today's young adults can trust to care for their future.

[sabrina 1]

14. Absolutely, that's why young people are flocking to his campaign. They have the ability to sense

when they are being lied to, and to recognize honesty, to know when they are not being bamboozled, when they see it.

He is exactly what we need right now. This country has gone way off course and someone has to steer it back.

[MrMickeysMom]

17. Young people aren't the only ones...

I was out in the black community (a Saturday ritual around Pittsburgh) and 80% of those who responded are enthusiatically flocking to him.

That's why we have to keep on walking and talking, Sabrina.

MMM

[sabrina 1]

18. Oh I agree, his only problem was name recognition. That's why we saw the huge and failed

effort to try to smear him BEFORE the minority communites got to know him. But we just kept on working to undermine those dirty tricksters. While they are busy NOT working to get their candidate elected, we've been busy introducing him to voters, signing people up and l Know for me,, telling them about the nasty campaigning against him. People don't like that.

[BlueJazz]

12. I stand with you, Sabrina.

[sabrina 1]

16. Thank you BlueJazz and I with you!

[wilsonbooks]

13. If not now, when?

If not Bernie, who?


I am 62 and have been waiting a very long time for the fire to be lit. We need to stand together and build the revolution.

[bvf]

46. I'm just a few years behind you at 57

and agree 100%.

[LWolf]

15. Agreed. nt

[rhett o rick]

19. Thanks for continuing to post the truth day after day.

[sabrina 1]

21. The truth only bugs those want to squash it!

That little bug has become quite a symbol!

Lol! Unintended consequences.

The truth is, you can't squash the truth no matter how much it bugs you!

[rhett o rick]

23. Perfect. nm

[kelliekat44]

20. Being against war isn't difficult and chances are 50-50 you get it right.

Being against war in 1941 would have made you wrong. Still 50-50.
And while we can differ in our opinion about Iraq, no single vote took us to war there. And half the west was for it as well based on the lies that were told about it. To blame or hold it against Hillary for her vote on the Iraq war is wrong on so many levels because it shifts focus from the culprits who were actually responsible for taking us to war. Also, if you angst about that vote is based on principle than you must be equally angry at all the other folks who voted the same as Hillary...I know for a fact that you are not.

[Voice for Peace]

30. many here were well informed

And knew enough to have voted no.
So should she have known.
Kissinger influence?

[Live and Learn]

34. Oh pllllleease. It was an obvious lie. I knew it, she knew it and I would venture you knew it.

No excuse!!!!

[Fairgo]

49. Wait, are you saying morality comes from the biggest gun?

I stand agog at that logic. Its not about winning, which in war usually goes to the most bloodthirsty indiscriminate killing machine. It is about a deep understanding of history, ethics, politics and an abiding anchor of morals that takes the path of peace even when you are scorned for your efforts. To stand against mass murder even when it is politically expedient to hide behind a flag.

[Scuba]

50. So deciding to go to war is kinda like flipping a coin?

Jesus H. Christ on a trailerhitch, that's the lamest excuse I've heard yet for Hillary's obscene speech and vote.

[sabrina 1]

69. It's not about being 'against war'. No one has said we should not defend this country when

necessary.

It is about having the judgement to know when war is necessary and even then it is a decision not to be taken lightly, and when we are being lied into war.

Sanders made the right decision regarding Iraq.

Hillary made the wrong decision.

We on DU made the right decision even though we had none of the intel they had.

What we did have was Google where we learned that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs.

And we learned why that was the case.

The other thing we KNEW, Bernie KNEW but Hillary didn't was that Iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

It's a question of good judgement over bad judgement and FORESIGHT a very important attribute necessary in a leader.

Hillary showed neither of these necessary traits at one of the most critical times in our recent history.

[Beartracks]

22. I was okay with Hillary being the expected nominee. But then...

... an even "more left" Democrat threw his hat in the ring. By the time Hillary announced, I was already way impressed with Bernie's brand of progressivism, compared to Hillary's Obama-style centrism.

And I don't mean that "Obama-style centrism" is necessarily bad -- a lot has been accomplished -- but having been a DU visitor/reader/follower for the last ten years or so, I just sort of expected everyone would throw in with the most left-leaning, most progressive candidate for their first choice -- not just for 2016, but for ANY election cycle. The notion being that, at any given time in campaign season, you support the candidate whose views and values -- and especially policy positions -- most closely reflect your own.

I've been disappointed in all the internecine warfare here.

For me, I'm not out to punish Hillary for her Iraq war vote, or any Wall Street coziness. I'm not a big fan of poll-tested politics either. Does that stuff concern me? Sure it does. Right now, I'm just more about where we Democrats want to get America going in the future and whose policies and priorities I feel are more likely to get us there. So Bernie is where my support will gravitate during primary season. If Hillary wins the Dem nomination, I'll be voting for her and will still be happy to do it. But in the meantime, she's my distant Plan B.

Bernie is definitely Plan A.



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[Duval]

44. I'm all for Plan A, Beartracks.

[silvershadow]

24. I only hope I get the chance. With our primary not coming until May, the nominee is often

already selected for me long before. We need all primaries to be held on ONE day nationwide, so the true will of the public is actually expressed.

[MisterP]

25. there's no "late primaries" in the Sanders Campaign's view, I believe:

every state is to be fought for, because votes aren't just chits to be piled up and "cashed in" at the convention

[silvershadow]

27. Oh I understand. Unfortunately he has to last that long in the race! Like I said,

the nominee has often been decided long before it gets to Indiana.

[99Forever]

28. Bernie is the Democrat my Irish Mother told me about.

She was there for FDR's time, she said at some time in my life, she hoped I would be fortunate enough to have a Democrat like him to support for the Presidency. Bernie is that Democrat.

[Live and Learn]

33. +1000 Yep, I was afraid those days were over but

now we have a chance.

[stupidicus]

31. yep, I thought that pretty obvious from the beginning

why put someone in the job playing catchup, when you have someone who's been ahead of the curve most of his political life.

you know, the 3:00am phone call and all that

[Live and Learn]

32. Definitely! nt

[Kip Humphrey]

35. Bernie is everything I had hoped for Paul Wellstone before his untimely & tragic death.

Win, Bernie, Win!

[Thespian2]

36. The first presidential candidate I worked for

was also a REAL Democrat...This is the first time since then that I have felt like working hard again for a candidate...

Oh, the first was Jimmy Carter...

[retrowire]

37. knr Sabrina1!!! n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

38. Seeing many cars sporting Bernie 2016 stickers!

[SoapBox]

39. A REAL Democrat versus

being a hardcore Third Wayer.

Third Wayers ain't no Democrats.

[raindaddy]

40. Agreed 100%

[MisterP]

41. "Berniebros openly boast of their privilege on DU!"

[Enthusiast]

42. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

We don't need any more sell outs.

[I hate liars]

43. Are they learning or are they shilling?

That's the question I always ask myself.

If someone with Hillary's knowledge and experience weighs in on the wrong side of an issue - like Wall Steet reform, single payer healthcare, starting a war in Syria, or ending the war on drugs, after years of exposure to the issues, shilling is the obvious answer - It's hard to credit ignorance. And when a candidate takes the shill position, it means getting paid is more important than taking a principled position.

[Demeter]

45. The Best Person for the Job--Out of Everyone!

[JDPriestly]

47. K&R.

[cosmicone]

48. We are farmers ...

pumpitampum pum pum pum

[Admiral Loinpresser]

56. Ignore is a beautiful thing! n/t

[sabrina 1]

61. Not hard to do even without using the ignore feature!

[RBInMaine]

51. After he loses this primary, is going to REMAIN a Democrat? He has NEVER been a Democrat.

He has even trashed the party in the past. So, we'll see. But in any case, he won't be the nominee.

[Bohunk68]

52. There are times when all of us have at one time or another, trashed the party.

The party does not always treat those of us on the left very gently.

[cosmicone]

57. It's when one doesn't have any gold ... brass looks shiny. n/t

[Phlem]

64. one's got to protect the rich no matter what.

right?

[sabrina 1]

58. I assume the party will back him when he wins the nomination.

[Renew Deal]

53. Obama was/is better

And Sanders is not a Democrat no matter how much you pretend that he is.

[Phlem]

65. That is some PURE closed minded thinking.

Good on you.

[Renew Deal]

68. I know. Anything but unquestioning worship isn't permitted.

[sabrina 1]

66. Berne is the best Denocrat we've had in a long time. That talking point, this week's latest

it appears, from whichever think tank, is going nowhere. Like all the other bought-and-paid-for talking points. We've been keeping track of them, btw.

[Renew Deal]

67. Really? You're keeping track?

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sabrina 1
66. Berne is the best Denocrat we've had in a long time. That talking point, this week's latest

it appears, from whichever think tank, is going nowhere. Like all the other bought-and-paid-for talking points. We've been keeping track of them, btw.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=781962

Is this part of your intimidation campaign that's supposed to win people over? Where are you keeping track? I'd like to see it.

Sanders affiliation is a fact. It is not a matter of debate or judgement. Claiming he is a deadens rat discredits you further.

[randome]

54. Can't really argue with that.

Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have a prayer of securing the nomination. So threads like this are like tilting at a windmill.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

[sabrina 1]

59. That's what we were told about Obama too. I remember it well. If the election is fair, then

he does have a chance. However we are all aware of the dirty tricks, bought and paid for smear campaigns etc. Corporate funded, see the one we caught, eg, David Brock's attempt to plant a smear in the media re Sanders.

But so long we people keep exposing them, which is not that difficult, he does have a chance.

[raouldukelives]

55. K&R Just Bernie.

No staging, no focus groups, no pandering to war criminals, no personal profit over progress, no BS. Just Bernie.

[Autumn]

60. Bernie is what he is. That's a refreshing change of pace.

[libodem]

62. Hubba hubba

Woo Hoo

[Phlem]

63. K&R!!!!