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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:10 AM Oct 2015

Emily’s List Official Accuses Bernie Sanders Team of Sexism

Emily’s List Official Accuses Bernie Sanders Team of Sexism
Maggie Habermas
New York Times

Stephanie Schriock, the president of the group Emily’s List, which helps elect female candidates to public office, has seized on joking comments made by Senator Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager about vetting Hillary Rodham Clinton for his vice-presidential nominee.

“Look, she’d make a great vice president,” the campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said of Mrs. Clinton to John Heilemann of Bloomberg Politics. “We’re willing to give her more credit than Obama did. We’re willing to consider her for vice president. We’ll give her serious consideration. We’ll even interview her.”

On Wednesday, Ms. Schriock wrote on Twitter that the comments were a “Condescending insult by a team who knows better.”

“Hillary is possibly most qualified ever to run & Americans know it,” she wrote.

Mrs. Clinton has tweaked Mr. Sanders as suggesting that she was “shouting” about gun control, an accusation he vehemently denied and which riled up his aides.



Clinton VP Offer “Edgy Or Snarky But Nothing More,” Says Sanders Campaign Manager
Evan McMorris-Santoro
Buzzfeed

Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager isn’t backing down from a pointed jab at former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over the weekend that led Clinton boosters to call him “condescending” and sexist.

But as the jabs flew between Clinton supporters and backers of Sanders, Jeff Weaver, his campaign manager, said the Sanders campaign is ready to put the negativity genie back in the bottle.

But, he said, that is up to Clinton.

“They launched a vicious attack on us, we let them know that we’re not going to be a punching bag, and now we’re ready to resume important issues facing the country,” Weaver told BuzzFeed News in an interview. “Hopefully that’s how we’ll proceed from now until the convention.”

Weaver dismissed the sexism charge.

“It certainly, I think, could be interpreted as edgy or snarky but nothing more,” he said.

Weaver, like other Sanders officials of late, said charges of sexism from Clinton supporters will be met with stern resistance.



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Thom Hartmann to Hillary Clinton: Challenge Bernie Sanders on Real Issues

Thom Hartmann: Clinton lied to Rachel Maddow on DOMA and played "poor me victim" on "shouting"

Hillary Clinton Falsely Calls Bernie Sanders a Sexist
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Emily’s List Official Accuses Bernie Sanders Team of Sexism (Original Post) portlander23 Oct 2015 OP
Disgusting. The backlash cometh... berni_mccoy Oct 2015 #1
Not too smart from team Bernie. Beausoir Oct 2015 #2
It was condescending and she is very qualified. Not sure where the issue is. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #3
Condescending and stupid, but not sexist Armstead Oct 2015 #13
I have not called it sexist. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #14
Okay. I'll retract that Armstead Oct 2015 #16
Thank you. I have tried to be consistent about this on a whole, NCTraveler Oct 2015 #21
Nothing in the quote says she's not qualified. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #28
I'll go with just condescending. Benefit of the doubt. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Oct 2015 #4
Emily's List exists to promote pro-choice democratic women candidates. tammywammy Oct 2015 #34
I don't donate to organizations whose purpose I am unfamiliar with. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #48
If we all learn one thing during the primary tammywammy Oct 2015 #49
The op is completely dishonest. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #46
The comments were condescending mcar Oct 2015 #5
There is a difference between "criticism" and "outright dishonesty." [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #51
Yep.... BooScout Oct 2015 #6
The Sanders campaign's comment were incredibly condescending sufrommich Oct 2015 #7
Please outline the implied sexism in that comment. frylock Oct 2015 #17
Still working on that answer? frylock Oct 2015 #38
Again, Bernie is no sexist. That's pathetic. HOWEVER - djean111 Oct 2015 #8
Pretty weak...nt freebrew Oct 2015 #9
It was sexism. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #10
How? frylock Oct 2015 #18
Hullo? Knock-knock.. frylock Oct 2015 #36
I guess all criticism of Bernie ibegurpard Oct 2015 #11
Why not? frylock Oct 2015 #19
Once again, why the lies? beerandjesus Oct 2015 #12
I remember Republicans saying that about GW Bush when he ran AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #23
Thom Hartmann giving advice to Hillary is ridiculous. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #15
He is right AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #20
No, he really isn't. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #22
He isn't corporate AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #24
No, he's RT. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #26
Thom Hartmann's "agenda is to promote anything that can help Putin." Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #31
That is the entire purpose of RT's existance. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #44
Well, if you believe that, maybe you really DO believe Bernie is sexist. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #40
Hahaha, I've never listened to him. giftedgirl77 Oct 2015 #29
The mission statement of Emily's List is: Skidmore Oct 2015 #25
Calling out their bullshit is far from attacking.. frylock Oct 2015 #35
This campaign is becoming unhinged. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #27
OMG! The Sanders campaign was condescending? The horror. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #30
"We’ll even interview her" ? Tarc Oct 2015 #32
Job interviews are now mysoginistic?! frylock Oct 2015 #33
Keep digging. Skidmore Oct 2015 #41
I'm digging the fauxtrage! frylock Oct 2015 #42
Bernie's camp didn't show enough respect and deference for Her Majesty. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #39
That's all it is! frylock Oct 2015 #45
Any suggestion that she doesn't have an automatic right to the Presidency is sexism now, I guess. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #47
Emily's pissed. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #43
I was raised by a widowed mom who wouldn't eat until I did. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #50
Emily's List are political operatives, with an agenda like any other similar group. Maedhros Oct 2015 #52
that is an over the top accusation drray23 Oct 2015 #53
I said I was tired of her claiming victim status. nt grasswire Oct 2015 #54
I can see Sanders will not be able to put this one to rest because we see op over and over Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #55
Jeff Weaver said it, not Sanders. And Sanders has said it was inappropriate. tammywammy Oct 2015 #56
Interesting, I did not know Weaver was on the debate stage, I was thinking it was Sanders who made Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #58
How stupid Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #57
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. It was condescending and she is very qualified. Not sure where the issue is.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:14 AM
Oct 2015

Why are some on the Sanders side so desperately trying to claim they are being called sexist left and right when reality doesn't back them up?

There is zero question that the comment was condescending. There is zero question as to if Clinton is qualified.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. I have not called it sexist.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:30 PM
Oct 2015

We agree. It was condescending and stupid.


Since we agree on that, if one was to stay logically consistent, you would also have to agree EL called it condescending, not sexist as the op is trying to insinuate. Why, because it's what they did and you have already agreed with them.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. Okay. I'll retract that
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

You may be right.

You know in all honesty, I just did what I often complain about. I made a leap from condescending to "sexist." Gotten too sensitive about that I guess.

That's why I hate this personalized "gotcha" form of politics. If people are going to duke it out, I'd rather the duking be about issues that affect people and determine the course of the country.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. Thank you. I have tried to be consistent about this on a whole,
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

and not to use it as something it shouldn't be used as. Womens issues are extremely important to both of us and we would both hate to see sexist comments not taken seriously.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=739628

I held a very similar position months ago as underhandedly insinuations were made by attachment that Sanders was a racist. I think that time brought out some excellent conversations. Insinuations Sanders was a racist by way of attachment wasn't one of them.


 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
28. Nothing in the quote says she's not qualified.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:10 PM
Oct 2015
“Look, she’d make a great vice president,” the campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said of Mrs. Clinton to John Heilemann of Bloomberg Politics. “We’re willing to give her more credit than Obama did. We’re willing to consider her for vice president. We’ll give her serious consideration. We’ll even interview her.”


Saying she'd make a great VP doesn't imply that she wouldn't also make a great Prez. Nobody doubts Hillary's qualifications. Her resume' is, if anything, deeper than Obama's was in '08. This tempest in a teacup is just the Clinton campaign seizing on something they can cynically* exploit...and various Hillary supporters like Schriock are doing their part.

*thus, perhaps, reinforcing that Hillary has the tools to be an effective (if not exactly admirable) president...

Response to portlander23 (Original post)

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
34. Emily's List exists to promote pro-choice democratic women candidates.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:19 PM
Oct 2015

They never said "sexist" they said it was condescending and it was.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
48. I don't donate to organizations whose purpose I am unfamiliar with.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:14 PM
Oct 2015

I know what Emily's List does as an organization, which is why I have supported them in the past.

However, I did err by not reading the full body of the post. I saw the headline, skimmed a very tiny bit of the rest, and assumed this was about the false meme of sexism being spread about Bernie over the "shouting" comment. The title threw me off, but that is not a very good excuse for not reading the post in full. Thus, the self delete.

I agree with you regarding that other comment. It does sound condescending.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
49. If we all learn one thing during the primary
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015

It should be to not trust headlines or even a four paragraph snippet.



I think he was trying for snarky/jokey about Clinton, but it came off condescending. Bernie needs to reign them in, because if this kind of stuff continues it will reflect badly on him. I don't think Bernie would have said anything close to what the campaign manager said.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
46. The op is completely dishonest.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

A person from EL called it condescending. It was condescending and there really isn't any arguing that. EL is an organization supporting pro-choice people. I'm sure they will rush right over to apologize to you for calling a condescending remark condescending just too keep the "donations" you have been giving them.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
5. The comments were condescending
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:21 AM
Oct 2015

But I suppose Emily's List will be under the bus now because neither Bernie or his team can be criticized by anyone, ever.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Again, Bernie is no sexist. That's pathetic. HOWEVER -
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:27 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie being accused of being sexist does not negate how I feel about Hillary's positions on war, cluster bombs, war, Wall Street greed being okay, really!, the TPP (no matter what she says this week), advocating for fracking world-wide. Things like that. Those things affect women, and children, too, In a very bad way.

So anyone who believes that I (and I am a woman) would vote for someone who I cannot support because of actual issues, just because of a "sexist" smear, is either delusional or does not care about those issues. I will support candidates on the issues. I would have been happy to support Elizabeth Warren.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
12. Once again, why the lies?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:23 PM
Oct 2015
“Hillary is possibly most qualified ever to run & Americans know it,” she wrote.

That is demonstrably false, whether you like her or not. Compared to LBJ or Richard Nixon, she's a newbie. That's just a historical fact, regardless of whether you like Hillary or not.

So, if she's so great, and Bernie's so sexist (itself a lie, but one I'm not dealing with here), why do they have to lie?
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
23. I remember Republicans saying that about GW Bush when he ran
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

They said it about Romney too. It's standard political claptrap.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
31. Thom Hartmann's "agenda is to promote anything that can help Putin."
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

The insanity knows no limits.

Some people may need to take a break.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
40. Well, if you believe that, maybe you really DO believe Bernie is sexist.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

Because both claims are completely and utterly preposterous if you have even the faintest clue what you're talking about.

Sorry about the direct attack, but that is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen written on this forum. Thom Hartmann is a genuine liberal and a national treasure, and even if you take issue with the fact that he's on RT--reasonable people can disagree--to claim that he's a shill for Putin is so ridiculous as to boggle the mind.

Alert away.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
25. The mission statement of Emily's List is:
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

"We elect pro-choice Democratic women to office."


One sentence. Period. "...pro-choice Democratic women." This has always been Emily's List's mission statement.

https://www.emilyslist.org/pages/entry/our-mission

I fail to see what is "progressive" about attacking an organization which promotes pro-choice women in their campaigns.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
35. Calling out their bullshit is far from attacking..
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

I'll ask you what I've asked several posters who have yet to provide me with an answer: where is the sexism or misogyny in that remark?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
27. This campaign is becoming unhinged.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:05 PM
Oct 2015

Waaay to cocky and condescending for a campaign down by 30+ points. It's also insulting to her supporters.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
30. OMG! The Sanders campaign was condescending? The horror.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

How will the Hillary campaign survive this brutal assault? I hope they're not traumatized.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
41. Keep digging.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:25 PM
Oct 2015

The hole isn't deep enough yet. And this isn't one of Manny's attempts at satire. You are doing your candidate proud.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
52. Emily's List are political operatives, with an agenda like any other similar group.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:09 PM
Oct 2015

They are also one of Hillary's largest political contributors, so they are clearly and demonstrably not objective. Anything they say about Bernie can and should be summarily ignored.

Would we care if Citigroup called Bernie "sexist?"

drray23

(7,634 posts)
53. that is an over the top accusation
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:09 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie is running against Hillary. What is he expected to say ? Well, she is more qualified than me and she should be the president?
Of course not. He is saying that if he gets the nomination he will be happy to ask Hillary to be the VP. If this situation ever happen, it will be up to Hillary to decide if she wants it.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
55. I can see Sanders will not be able to put this one to rest because we see op over and over
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:26 PM
Oct 2015

Bringing this out over and over. We know what Sanders said, he has stated there are inappropriate remarks and just when Sanders seems to quiet this down another run and he just can't escape. Whether it came out as he intended or not why does this need to be thrown in his face over and over. Let it rest, he wants to move on.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
56. Jeff Weaver said it, not Sanders. And Sanders has said it was inappropriate.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

BTW, Emily's List never said it was sexist, they said it was condescending. It was condescending.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
58. Interesting, I did not know Weaver was on the debate stage, I was thinking it was Sanders who made
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:23 PM
Oct 2015

Statement including Secretary Clinton by name but perhaps I am incorrect. If Sanders was only saying Weaver's statement was inappropriate I wish he would revisit his statement during the debate, if not I guess the pass I was trying to give him on Secretary Clinton shouting is right back on the table.

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