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Related: About this forumThird Way Moderate Democrats Confident Clinton Would Govern From the Middle
Moderate Democrats Confident Clinton Would Govern From the MiddleLeaders of centrist think tank Third Way say they hope she wont make the same mistake Mitt Romney did.
Eric Garcia
National Journal
On the campaign trail, Hillary Clintons tone has become more populist, but moderate Democrats are confident she would govern as a centrist.
The evidence is in: Populism has simply tanked with the middle class, Cowan said in his opening remarks. In particular, he criticized recent proposals such as raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, imposing a single-payer health care plan, and giving more Social Security benefits to well-off seniors.
Many of these are ideas that Sanders has championed. Third Ways email about the event targeted the senator from Vermont, saying that many of the ideas offered by Bernie Sanders and the like would be ruinous for the economy without helping the middle class, and speakers at the event said populism would hurt Democrats chances to win elections on both the national and state level.
If you cross that invisible line and go too far left or too far right, you end up where Mitt Romney ended up, Cowan said in response to a question from National Journal. Well leave it up to (Clinton) to decide what label shed like to stick to herself, whether its a moderate, whether its a progressive who gets things donesounds like a moderate to me.
Nobody ever lost an election because theyve gone against trade, said William Daley, former Commerce secretary under Bill Clinton and Barack Obamas former chief of staff, at the event. He noted that Third Way supports the TPP.
But Cowan pointed out that while he and the organization backed the TPP, Clintons newfound opposition to the 12-nation agreement was not crossing a line. He said that in 2008, both Obama and Clinton opposed trade agreements.
Daley said Clinton would govern as a moderate.
If she wants to pass anything, yeah, definitely, because, I think she is a doer, Daley told National Journal. You cant govern as president just by Eat it.
Elaine Kamarck, one of the cofounders of the New Democrats and a senior fellow of governance studies at the Brookings Institution, said she thinks Clinton is very much a Third-Way-type politician.
Shes very cognizant of not letting your politics cut off whats going to be a governing agenda, Kamarck said. And so thats what shes about, and shes very concerned about government.
In late 2013, Third Way clashed with Warren and other populist progressives, writing an op-ed calling plans to expand Social Security exhibit A of populist political and economic fantasy.
While Clinton is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, its not clear how she would campaign as the nominee or how she would govern as president. Third Way Democrats hope she puts the populist rhetoric she has adopted of late to the side and governs, if elected, from the middle. Progressives want the oppositeto see her populist positions manifest themselves in a governing agenda.
The evidence is in: Populism has simply tanked with the middle class, Cowan said in his opening remarks. In particular, he criticized recent proposals such as raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, imposing a single-payer health care plan, and giving more Social Security benefits to well-off seniors.
Many of these are ideas that Sanders has championed. Third Ways email about the event targeted the senator from Vermont, saying that many of the ideas offered by Bernie Sanders and the like would be ruinous for the economy without helping the middle class, and speakers at the event said populism would hurt Democrats chances to win elections on both the national and state level.
If you cross that invisible line and go too far left or too far right, you end up where Mitt Romney ended up, Cowan said in response to a question from National Journal. Well leave it up to (Clinton) to decide what label shed like to stick to herself, whether its a moderate, whether its a progressive who gets things donesounds like a moderate to me.
Nobody ever lost an election because theyve gone against trade, said William Daley, former Commerce secretary under Bill Clinton and Barack Obamas former chief of staff, at the event. He noted that Third Way supports the TPP.
But Cowan pointed out that while he and the organization backed the TPP, Clintons newfound opposition to the 12-nation agreement was not crossing a line. He said that in 2008, both Obama and Clinton opposed trade agreements.
Daley said Clinton would govern as a moderate.
If she wants to pass anything, yeah, definitely, because, I think she is a doer, Daley told National Journal. You cant govern as president just by Eat it.
Elaine Kamarck, one of the cofounders of the New Democrats and a senior fellow of governance studies at the Brookings Institution, said she thinks Clinton is very much a Third-Way-type politician.
Shes very cognizant of not letting your politics cut off whats going to be a governing agenda, Kamarck said. And so thats what shes about, and shes very concerned about government.
In late 2013, Third Way clashed with Warren and other populist progressives, writing an op-ed calling plans to expand Social Security exhibit A of populist political and economic fantasy.
While Clinton is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, its not clear how she would campaign as the nominee or how she would govern as president. Third Way Democrats hope she puts the populist rhetoric she has adopted of late to the side and governs, if elected, from the middle. Progressives want the oppositeto see her populist positions manifest themselves in a governing agenda.
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Third Way Moderate Democrats Confident Clinton Would Govern From the Middle (Original Post)
portlander23
Oct 2015
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)1. Matters not, she'll never win.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)2. Well, duh.
Anyone who actually believes any of her pretend appeals to the left is simple-minded or naive.
Doubledee
(137 posts)3. The middle?
I believe she would govern from the middle of Wall Street and the middle of the Pentagon. I further believe her track record clearly shows this to be true.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)4. K & R !!!