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StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:09 PM Oct 2015

It appears the NH poll asked respondents about the debate ONLY if they responded yes to watching it.

http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/10_16_2015_final_marginals.pdf

Note page 3 (Question 13): It asks 500 people if they watched Tuesday's debate.

283 responded yes.

It then asks in Question 13.1 : Who won the debate?
There are only 283 respondents to that question, not 500

Therefore, only those that watched the debate answered that question.

There goes another Bernie supporter talking point.
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drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. You think that people who didn't watch the debate should be asked who won it?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:18 PM
Oct 2015


I guess I'm missing some context. What is the talking point you're discussing?
 

StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
5. Several Bernie supporters were under the impression...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:19 PM
Oct 2015

...that the question "who won the debate" was asked to everyone in the poll, even if they didn't watch the debate.

Turns out that's not the case.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. I agree. Although I think Clinton "won" the debate, Sanders looked/sounded very good.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:21 PM
Oct 2015

But, one can't really offer an educated opinion on who won, if they didn't see it.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
6. And also to be fair
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:20 PM
Oct 2015

the NBC poll was a little looser and included those who "followed coverage". I would not assume that this favors either candidate, however, since supporters on both sides didn't necessarily watch the entire debate.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
13. It is an online survey, but not the kind where a random person can just go and take the survey
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:31 PM
Oct 2015

METHODOLOGY

The NBC News Online Poll was conducted online by SurveyMonkey October 13-15, 2015 among a national sample of 4,898 adults aged 18 and over. Respondents for this non-probability survey were selected using an algorithm from among the nearly three million people who take surveys on the SurveyMonkey platform each day.

more at the link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/285396771/NBC-SurveyMonkey-ToplinesMethod10-15

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
10. Per the survey monkey poll they asked those who watched OR followed coverage
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:28 PM
Oct 2015

"Just 3% of Democrats who watched or followed coverage of the debate said she did worst, giving her a net performance score of +53. "

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/nbc-online-poll-clinton-wins-debate-reenergizes-core-backers-n445546

But I did make a mistake about the suffolk poll. But then it was conducted on the 14th and 15th after a constant barrage of

Clinton Won, Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won Clinton Won!

I think they use to do these polls overnight after the debate.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. They were citing that poll ALL day on MSNBC. Furthermore, they polled on 14th and 15th
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:31 PM
Oct 2015

after a barrage of Clinton won. Common sense will tell you that will affect the outcome.

11cents

(1,777 posts)
16. No.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

There are "online polls" where you just go to Fox or MSNBC or whatever and click on responses. These are completely useless and shouldn't be considered either polls or news, but the SurveyMonkey thing was different. It was administered online but only a (more-or-less randomly selected) pool of respondents could participate. Similar to the kind of survey that might be conducted by (for example) a healthcare provider where you get email asking you to rate them on their service by following a link and filling out a survey.

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