2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDidn't John McCain see 20+ years of Mitt's taxes? Why doesn't he speak up
and say that Mitt DID pay taxes? You don't suppose the source is someone on McCain's staff?
The other thing -- why did Mitt give McCain his returns, because he was applying for a job in a way -- yet he doesn't realize "WE THE PEOPLE" are also the BOSS in this situation, why should we hire him when he shows stuff to McCain that he won't show to us.
He kind of acts like he's the boss and we have to support our CEO, um, no, we are are the boss so he needs to show US his info like he showed McCain!
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)A bit like 'Darth Vader' "still" had some "good" in him...
I'd be willing to bet he does not like all that 'tax hiding' stuff.
On edit: Or rather, all that 'NO-tax hiding' stuff.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)It is a hell of a guess, but Reid and Romney have another mutual friend who is much, much more concerned with both of their finances than McCain ever was.
That would be the angel Moroni, and his numerous servants within the Church of Latter-day Saints. If just one of them saw those tax records and confused honesty and doing the right thing with getting Republicans elected and staying rich, that person could have been highly motivated to tell--and that person might have wished to tell it to the only Mormon in the Senate who ain't a Republican.
An equally plausible source might be one or more of McCain's campaign staffers, whom if I recall correctly still have their day jobs as conservative staff-people on Capitol Hill.
Still another potential source is someone from the IRS, NSA, Secret Service, Homeland Security, or any of the other entities that now have free reign to spy on US citizens. And they don't have to be Democrats, either, because the Bush stay-behinds don't want Romney to win, either.
So while McCain is an excellent one-name guess, there are literally thousands of other potential tattlers. If that person is lucky, so many others will come forward soon that the first brave person might go unpunished by Romney and his people.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)And they would not be bound with any professional ethics to not talk about them, like R-money's CPA firms prob have non-disclosure forms up the ying!
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)And yet he has first hand knowledge of this subject and we haven't heard from him?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Simply put, no matter what he knows, John McCain has no authority at all to release Romney's private information like that.
Now, it could be a leak source... But McCain would get in trouble if he started talking about what he saw in confidence.
DFW
(54,370 posts)If he had been hands-on about his VP pick, he would never had "chosen" Palin.
What probably happened is that McCain's staff took one look at Romney's returns, paled in horror, returned them,and politely told Romney's staff, "thanks, but no thanks," and privately informed McCain that Romney was toxic as a VP.
McCain probably told them, "OK, I'm sure you have your reasons," and that was the end of the discussion.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)for years.
Which is why McCain isn't out there defending him b/c he heard first hand it was true.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Mitt: John, that is 20 years of my tax returns!
John: Uh, Mitt? I only see two years of returns here!
Mitt: John, John! That's because I had no taxable income for eighteen years!
John: Pardon my french, Mitt, but who's gonna fuckin fall for that shit?
Mitt: John, John, John! Nobody wants a vice-president who overpays his taxes!
John: I'm think I'll call up that nice lady in Alaska who wanted to sell me a bridge to nowhere
Freddie
(9,265 posts)Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.
That's all.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)that because of his taxes, he was not considered when McCain ran. Must be some juicy stuff in there.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)He said tax returns were not a problem. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/mccain-personally-vouches-for-romneys-returns.html
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)McCain wouldn't have seen the unpaid taxes on illegal UBS accounts, nor would he have seen the 2009 amnesty when Mittens chose to 'fess up and pay up versus the "f" bomb.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)I go by the available facts not internet rumors and allegations.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)if Huntsman's daughter is right and he drops out rather than releasing his taxes. But then, that's just her hearsay.
Whatever is in his returns, he obviously thinks it will be more damaging to release them than refuse to share them with his potential employers.
And refusing to release them, when every candidate since his own father has released many years worth, sure makes it look like he's hiding something.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)Not illegal but politically embarrassing. I do not believe he paid no taxes. That is based on his financial disclosure forms which go back to 2002 and are posted on the net. Based on those there is no way he could have paid no taxes. The math dictates that conclusion.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Swiss secret UBS account versus US legal branch.
I had read that he had filed something that stated UBS accounts that didn't specify which type of account.
That is what led to the speculation that the account was originally illegal Swiss and that he had to go back and changed the filing as a result of changing his tax filings in the 2009 amnesty.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)There was "nothing wrong" technically with GE's either but they didn't pay any frickin' taxes!
CabCurious
(954 posts)It seems to me their game plan is to hold out until the media buzz slows on this story, then to release 4-5 years of partial tax statements in hopes of killing the story for good.
I think these insiders and several on the Obama side have VERY deep access on this.
They all know what's dug deep into Romney's history. The problem is that this could be a precedent they don't want to set.
Ratty
(2,100 posts)He said they didn't see anything amiss in Romney's returns?
former9thward
(31,997 posts)He said there were no problems. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/mccain-personally-vouches-for-romneys-returns.html
center rising
(971 posts)He knows somethings rotten here!!