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K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:54 AM Aug 2012

Didn't John McCain see 20+ years of Mitt's taxes? Why doesn't he speak up

and say that Mitt DID pay taxes? You don't suppose the source is someone on McCain's staff?

The other thing -- why did Mitt give McCain his returns, because he was applying for a job in a way -- yet he doesn't realize "WE THE PEOPLE" are also the BOSS in this situation, why should we hire him when he shows stuff to McCain that he won't show to us.

He kind of acts like he's the boss and we have to support our CEO, um, no, we are are the boss so he needs to show US his info like he showed McCain!

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Didn't John McCain see 20+ years of Mitt's taxes? Why doesn't he speak up (Original Post) K8-EEE Aug 2012 OP
Maybe McCain is Harry's source Champion Jack Aug 2012 #1
It's quite possible.... Amonester Aug 2012 #2
I didn't think of that at first. sofa king Aug 2012 #11
Bingo n/t DesertRat Aug 2012 #19
I don't think McCain even looked at Mitt's returns. He just wanted to make sure he was rich. Lint Head Aug 2012 #3
Well hell SOMEBODY at McCain camp looked at them.... K8-EEE Aug 2012 #5
He spoke up for Huma pretty quick after those accusations are made K8-EEE Aug 2012 #4
Confidentiality Scootaloo Aug 2012 #6
I'm sure McCain saw nothing DFW Aug 2012 #7
Or, they looked and said, Senator McCain he's off the list he's been paying zero effective tax rate K8-EEE Aug 2012 #8
John: Say, Mitt, didn't you say you were giving me 20 years of tax returns? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #9
St. Ronnie's 11th Commandmemt Freddie Aug 2012 #10
I'm pretty sure I read SmittynMo Aug 2012 #12
McCain said exactly the opposite. former9thward Aug 2012 #15
which brings us back to 2009, the year of swiss account amnesty magical thyme Aug 2012 #18
Maybe, maybe not. former9thward Aug 2012 #20
facts which will probably never be available magical thyme Aug 2012 #22
He probably is hiding something. former9thward Aug 2012 #23
Unless those are the forms which state his UBS account, but leaves out magical thyme Aug 2012 #24
"nothing wrong with them," hey I'm sure they were filed correctly K8-EEE Aug 2012 #21
GOP insiders have called on Romney to release "a few more years" CabCurious Aug 2012 #13
Didn't I read about some source in McCain's camp Ratty Aug 2012 #14
The source was McCain. former9thward Aug 2012 #16
McCain made one statement on Mitt's taxes, then clammed up!! center rising Aug 2012 #17

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
2. It's quite possible....
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:08 AM
Aug 2012

A bit like 'Darth Vader' "still" had some "good" in him...

I'd be willing to bet he does not like all that 'tax hiding' stuff.

On edit: Or rather, all that 'NO-tax hiding' stuff.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
11. I didn't think of that at first.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:58 AM
Aug 2012

It is a hell of a guess, but Reid and Romney have another mutual friend who is much, much more concerned with both of their finances than McCain ever was.

That would be the angel Moroni, and his numerous servants within the Church of Latter-day Saints. If just one of them saw those tax records and confused honesty and doing the right thing with getting Republicans elected and staying rich, that person could have been highly motivated to tell--and that person might have wished to tell it to the only Mormon in the Senate who ain't a Republican.

An equally plausible source might be one or more of McCain's campaign staffers, whom if I recall correctly still have their day jobs as conservative staff-people on Capitol Hill.

Still another potential source is someone from the IRS, NSA, Secret Service, Homeland Security, or any of the other entities that now have free reign to spy on US citizens. And they don't have to be Democrats, either, because the Bush stay-behinds don't want Romney to win, either.

So while McCain is an excellent one-name guess, there are literally thousands of other potential tattlers. If that person is lucky, so many others will come forward soon that the first brave person might go unpunished by Romney and his people.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
5. Well hell SOMEBODY at McCain camp looked at them....
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:13 AM
Aug 2012

And they would not be bound with any professional ethics to not talk about them, like R-money's CPA firms prob have non-disclosure forms up the ying!

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
4. He spoke up for Huma pretty quick after those accusations are made
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:11 AM
Aug 2012

And yet he has first hand knowledge of this subject and we haven't heard from him?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Confidentiality
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:14 AM
Aug 2012

Simply put, no matter what he knows, John McCain has no authority at all to release Romney's private information like that.

Now, it could be a leak source... But McCain would get in trouble if he started talking about what he saw in confidence.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
7. I'm sure McCain saw nothing
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:14 AM
Aug 2012

If he had been hands-on about his VP pick, he would never had "chosen" Palin.

What probably happened is that McCain's staff took one look at Romney's returns, paled in horror, returned them,and politely told Romney's staff, "thanks, but no thanks," and privately informed McCain that Romney was toxic as a VP.
McCain probably told them, "OK, I'm sure you have your reasons," and that was the end of the discussion.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
8. Or, they looked and said, Senator McCain he's off the list he's been paying zero effective tax rate
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:18 AM
Aug 2012

for years.

Which is why McCain isn't out there defending him b/c he heard first hand it was true.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
9. John: Say, Mitt, didn't you say you were giving me 20 years of tax returns?
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:42 AM
Aug 2012

Mitt: John, that is 20 years of my tax returns!
John: Uh, Mitt? I only see two years of returns here!
Mitt: John, John! That's because I had no taxable income for eighteen years!
John: Pardon my french, Mitt, but who's gonna fuckin fall for that shit?
Mitt: John, John, John! Nobody wants a vice-president who overpays his taxes!
John: I'm think I'll call up that nice lady in Alaska who wanted to sell me a bridge to nowhere

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure I read
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:44 AM
Aug 2012

that because of his taxes, he was not considered when McCain ran. Must be some juicy stuff in there.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. which brings us back to 2009, the year of swiss account amnesty
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

McCain wouldn't have seen the unpaid taxes on illegal UBS accounts, nor would he have seen the 2009 amnesty when Mittens chose to 'fess up and pay up versus the "f" bomb.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
22. facts which will probably never be available
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:30 PM
Aug 2012

if Huntsman's daughter is right and he drops out rather than releasing his taxes. But then, that's just her hearsay.

Whatever is in his returns, he obviously thinks it will be more damaging to release them than refuse to share them with his potential employers.

And refusing to release them, when every candidate since his own father has released many years worth, sure makes it look like he's hiding something.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
23. He probably is hiding something.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 05:39 PM
Aug 2012

Not illegal but politically embarrassing. I do not believe he paid no taxes. That is based on his financial disclosure forms which go back to 2002 and are posted on the net. Based on those there is no way he could have paid no taxes. The math dictates that conclusion.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
24. Unless those are the forms which state his UBS account, but leaves out
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 05:45 PM
Aug 2012

Swiss secret UBS account versus US legal branch.

I had read that he had filed something that stated UBS accounts that didn't specify which type of account.

That is what led to the speculation that the account was originally illegal Swiss and that he had to go back and changed the filing as a result of changing his tax filings in the 2009 amnesty.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
21. "nothing wrong with them," hey I'm sure they were filed correctly
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:03 PM
Aug 2012

There was "nothing wrong" technically with GE's either but they didn't pay any frickin' taxes!

CabCurious

(954 posts)
13. GOP insiders have called on Romney to release "a few more years"
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:24 AM
Aug 2012

It seems to me their game plan is to hold out until the media buzz slows on this story, then to release 4-5 years of partial tax statements in hopes of killing the story for good.

I think these insiders and several on the Obama side have VERY deep access on this.

They all know what's dug deep into Romney's history. The problem is that this could be a precedent they don't want to set.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
14. Didn't I read about some source in McCain's camp
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:51 AM
Aug 2012

He said they didn't see anything amiss in Romney's returns?

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