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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:54 AM Sep 2015

Bernie Sanders is the ranking minority member of the Senate

Health Subcommittee on Primary Health and Retirement Security, Elizabeth Warren is also a member of that committee.

The committee's jurisdiction also includes



Jurisdiction[edit]

The Subcommittee has oversight over many aging issues including: The Older Americans Act - including home delivered and congregate meals programs for older adults, the Senior Community Services Employment Program, long-term services and supports, elder abuse, neglect, and scams affecting seniors, and the health of the aging population, including Alzheimer's disease and family caregiving. The Subcommittee also has oversight over many Primary Health issues including Community Health Centers, access to vaccines, oral health, prescription drugs and the mental health of all Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Health_Subcommittee_on_Primary_Health_and_Retirement_Security



Bernie Sanders is also one of five minority Senators that sit on the United States Senate Health Subcommittee on Children and Families

Its' jurisdiction includes



Jurisdiction[edit]

The Subcommittee's jurisdiction includes Head Start, the Family Medical Leave Act, child care and child support, and other issues involving children, youth, and families.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Health_Subcommittee_on_Children_and_Families



Hillary Clinton at this time is not in government, she might be the Democratic nominee and she might not, if she is nominated Hillary might be elected to the Presidency and she might not.

On Sunday this happened,



Drug Goes From $13.50 a Tablet to $750, Overnight

Specialists in infectious disease are protesting a gigantic overnight increase in the price of a 62-year-old drug that is the standard of care for treating a life-threatening parasitic infection.

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.


(snip)

Turing’s price increase is not an isolated example. While most of the attention on pharmaceutical prices has been on new drugs for diseases like cancer, hepatitis C and high cholesterol, there is also growing concern about huge price increases on older drugs, some of them generic, that have long been mainstays of treatment.

(snip)

In August, two members of Congress investigating generic drug price increases wrote to Valeant Pharmaceuticals after that company acquired two heart drugs, Isuprel and Nitropress, from Marathon Pharmaceuticals and promptly raised their prices by 525 percent and 212 percent respectively. Marathon had acquired the drugs from another company in 2013 and had quintupled their prices, according to the lawmakers, Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who is seeking the Democratic nomination for president, and Representative Elijah E. Cummings, Democrat of Maryland.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1





An entrepreneur who acquired the rights to produce a life-saving drug then increased its price more than 50-fold overnight is defending his decision with assertions that the profits will help create better medicines in future.

Medical organizations protested loudly on Sunday after a company owned by controversial former hedge fund manager Martin Shkreli raised the price of the drug Daraprim, which treats a dangerous parasitic infection, from $13.50 per pill to $750 per pill.


Shkreli’s startup company, Turing Pharmaceuticals, acquired Daraprim in August. The drug was first developed in the 1940s and is used to treat toxoplasmosis, an infection that is not common but is particularly dangerous and can be fatal when it affects babies born to mothers who have become infected or adults whose immune systems are critically compromised because they are suffering from Aids or some cancers.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/21/entrepreneur-defends-raise-price-daraprim-drug



and this happened,



Bernie Sanders questions drug price spike
He demands an explanation for a leap from $13.50 per tablet to $750.


Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is calling on a drug company to justify a dramatic spike in the price of a 62-year-old drug that was reported Sunday.

One day before rival Hillary Clinton is set to propose a plan to rein in high costs for specialty drugs, Sanders in a letter to Turing Pharmaceuticals demanded an explanation for why the price of a drug used to treat dangerous parasitical infections leapt from $13.50 per tablet to $750 after the company acquired the drug from a competitor.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bernie-sanders-drug-prices-213904



and on Monday this happened as reported by CNN.



Hillary Clinton tweet crushes bio-tech stocks

Biotech stocks tumbled on Monday after Clinton fired off a tweet about "price gouging" in biotech drugs.

Hillary Clinton ✔ @HillaryClinton
Price gouging like this in the specialty drug market is outrageous. Tomorrow I'll lay out a plan to take it on. -H https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/645656049882632192
9:56 AM - 21 Sep 2015

One of the hardest-hit biotech stocks was Retrophin (RTRX), which plummeted 14% on Monday. Retrophin was founded by Shkreli, but he was fired by Retrophin last year and the company has since sued him. Still, investors are clearly worried Shkreli used some of the same strategies that have gotten the attention of Clinton.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1212596



As for CNN no other dynamics were at play in the biotech loss than a Hillary tweet, no mention of the medical organizations protest, no mention of the negative media coverage and no mention of Bernie.

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Bernie Sanders is the ranking minority member of the Senate (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2015 OP
So, you are mad that Bernie didn't get credit........for what? leftofcool Sep 2015 #1
smh Where do you see anger in the OP? And how do you interpret the OP merrily Sep 2015 #6
CNN's agenda is very clear. Pointing it out isn't getting mad. nt stillwaiting Sep 2015 #13
It is the misrepresentation of facts that bother us, Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #15
Huge +1! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #44
The fact that it doesn't...... daleanime Sep 2015 #61
... TBF Sep 2015 #17
Someone needs to inform Harry Reid SCantiGOP Sep 2015 #25
Read the first sentence again. n/t Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #26
I know SCantiGOP Sep 2015 #33
There wasn't enough room for the entire name of the committee Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #34
Read the OP again. gregcrawford Sep 2015 #31
The OP makes no mention of Bernie's drug legislation and what is in the OP can be used to Skwmom Sep 2015 #41
WHAT?!!? gregcrawford Sep 2015 #43
it seems pro Hillary ablamj Sep 2015 #48
Ranking members of committees. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #49
thank you ablamj Sep 2015 #50
Sorry. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #58
Well thanks to fucking strudified rice that Hillary's tweet fixed it! delrem Sep 2015 #65
KnR! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #2
The media doesn't want us to find out about Sanders jfern Sep 2015 #3
BRILLIANT Post, Uncle Joe. Speaks volumes. I wish only that I could rec it more than once. merrily Sep 2015 #4
I'll rec it again for you madokie Sep 2015 #47
You recc'd it for me because you are a left wing do gooder. merrily Sep 2015 #64
not sure who you just made the case for. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #5
Hint: The OP did not make a case for media. merrily Sep 2015 #7
+ all that exists. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #8
. merrily Sep 2015 #9
For these people ejbr Sep 2015 #10
From the 16 GOP candidates? rgbecker Sep 2015 #11
Now which party do they call "pro-life"? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #12
I don't really care about who got press coverage but this is Bernie's release about investigating Skwmom Sep 2015 #14
Thanks for the addition, Skwmom. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #16
Is this to make people associate Clinton with Bernie and Warren? Skwmom Sep 2015 #19
merrily on post #7 best captured the intent of my OP. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #20
P.S. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #22
I think I see where this is leading considering the company. Skwmom Sep 2015 #29
Peace to you, Skwmom. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #32
I read her proposal earlier and what I got out of it was that jwirr Sep 2015 #42
Its all about Hillary! RiverLover Sep 2015 #18
K&R Scuba Sep 2015 #21
Well played, Democratic candidates rurallib Sep 2015 #23
This is why absolutely no one turns to CNN for financial acumen - IT ISN'T THERE! (eom) mak3cats Sep 2015 #24
I honestly don't know why a tweet from Hillary would scare anybody. djean111 Sep 2015 #27
That's an unstated point of my OP, but don't tell that to CNN, they're Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #28
Yup. I don't even bother, really, reading about her "positions" on anything. djean111 Sep 2015 #30
It's more than keeping her name out front. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #36
Recommend! Great Post & Fact Checking KoKo Sep 2015 #35
I would be interested in knowing which individuals and institutions have heavily invested Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #46
Thank You!. Spot On! BTW CNBC questioned whether he had Shorted his Biotech KoKo Sep 2015 #59
K&R this great OP! Catherina Sep 2015 #37
Thank you. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #54
Excellent work, Uncle Joe, well done. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #38
Thank you, beam me up scottie. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #55
My pleasure, keep up the good work! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #60
they have entered the fight us stage questionseverything Sep 2015 #39
They dare not speak his name, I believe Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #56
K & R! SoapBox Sep 2015 #40
The deregulation of the Media was a crime against Democracy. Thankfully we have other means sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #45
It has been brutal for the victims, Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #57
K&R Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #51
Great post!! jkbRN Sep 2015 #52
You underestimate the awesome Power of @HillaryClinton at your own peril, mortal! frylock Sep 2015 #53
Thanks, Uncle Joe Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2015 #62
Not to mention the cynical, manipulative media coverage by CNN and its' ilk. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #63

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. So, you are mad that Bernie didn't get credit........for what?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:03 AM
Sep 2015

The stocks may have tanked but as far as I can tell, the drug is still costly and the idiot appears to not be changing his mind about the price gouging.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. smh Where do you see anger in the OP? And how do you interpret the OP
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:17 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:51 AM - Edit history (1)

as being about wanting Bernie to get credit?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. It is the misrepresentation of facts that bother us,
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:35 AM
Sep 2015

it is a real shame that it doesn't bother you too.



gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
31. Read the OP again.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:12 AM
Sep 2015

The opening paragraphs state that Sanders is on a committee that oversees issues of health for the elderly and on another for the health of children. These committees exercise influence on policy governing drugs commonly prescribed for maladies suffered by these two groups.

The OP then proceeds to describe the huge overnight price hike of an essential drug by a start-up run by a hedge fund manager, for which Sanders, in his capacity of a committee member,not a presidential candidate, immediately demanded for an explanation.

Hillary quite rightly commented on the incident as well, but she has no official role in government at the moment.

CNN reported on Clinton's comment, which has no more bearing on the outcome of events than a comment from you or me, but made no mention of Sanders' official action, which might have serious consequences for Turing Pharmaceuticals.

The OP's point was in regard to the biased and inferior journalism of CNN, and had absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Sanders got "credit."

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
41. The OP makes no mention of Bernie's drug legislation and what is in the OP can be used to
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

argue for Hillary and against Bernie.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
43. WHAT?!!?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:01 PM
Sep 2015

I made no mention of Sanders' drug legislation either, because that is not the point.

The OP specifically says that "...the Subcommittee also has oversight over many Primary Health issues including Community Health Centers, access to vaccines, oral health, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..."

The OP is about CNN's sub-standard reporting, not throwing shade at Hillary.

It would appear that there are some who have reading comprehension issues.

This exhausts my interest in the subject. Have a nice day.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
49. Ranking members of committees.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:46 PM
Sep 2015

They put it on letter head so it carries legal weight.

No matter how advanced we get regarding electronic communications, in the legal profession, paper is still king.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
65. Well thanks to fucking strudified rice that Hillary's tweet fixed it!
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:21 AM
Sep 2015

But don't expect those heathens to understand.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
3. The media doesn't want us to find out about Sanders
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:08 AM
Sep 2015

Except that he's some scary socialist guy that BLM protested.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. I don't really care about who got press coverage but this is Bernie's release about investigating
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:32 AM
Sep 2015

generic drug prices.

Congress Investigating Why Generic Drug Prices Are Skyrocketing
Thursday, October 2, 2014

BURLINGTON, Vt., Oct. 2 – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and U.S. Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) today launched an investigation into soaring generic drug prices.

“We are conducting an investigation into the recent staggering price increases for generic drugs used to treat everything from common medical conditions to life-threatening illnesses,” Sanders, chairman of a Senate health care subcommittee, and Cummings, ranking member of the House oversight committee, wrote in letters to 14 pharmaceutical companies.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/congress-investigating-why-generic-drug-prices-are-skyrocketing

They also introduced legislation recently.

He was also appointed ranking member in Dec 2014.


Sanders Appointed Ranking Member of Senate Budget Committee
Friday, December 12, 2014

WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement today after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) announced Sanders’ appointment as the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee in the next session of Congress:

“I want to thank Sen. Reid and the Democratic caucus for the opportunity to serve as the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee. At a time when the middle class is disappearing and the gap between the rich and everybody else is growing wider, we need a budget which reflects the needs of working families and not Wall Street and the top 1 percent. I look forward to working with Democrats and Republicans on the committee to craft a budget that is fair to all Americans, not just the powerful special interests.”

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
19. Is this to make people associate Clinton with Bernie and Warren?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:05 AM
Sep 2015

When I heard about the stock,my first thought - this is a way to make Clinton look like she is for the people (though she is not). And with the big money desperate to get her in, it's not exactly outside the realm of possibility.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
20. merrily on post #7 best captured the intent of my OP.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:10 AM
Sep 2015

To answer your question directly in no way am I associating Hillary with Bernie and Warren.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
29. I think I see where this is leading considering the company.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:11 AM
Sep 2015

But I don't want to post it.

How twisted the world of politics is.

And this is not directed at you.





jwirr

(39,215 posts)
42. I read her proposal earlier and what I got out of it was that
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:25 PM
Sep 2015

she was not going to look into the actions of the investor but make a few tweaks in the system that now exists. In other words nothing to limit what the hedge fund investor is allowed to do. Even when it hurts both the patient and the taxpayer.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. Its all about Hillary!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:46 AM
Sep 2015

Everyone is invested in her now. That can't pay off if Sanders gets too much attention.

Great insight here Uncle Joe, thanks!!

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
23. Well played, Democratic candidates
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:22 AM
Sep 2015

Hope O'Malley jumped in there also.
Now, if the corporate press will just report this..........

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
27. I honestly don't know why a tweet from Hillary would scare anybody.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:56 AM
Sep 2015

It would be well over a year before she could do squat about anything, if at all. And I doubt they would voluntarily lower prices this far in advance of anything. Also think the most she would do is have "serious conversations" about it. And those people know that. So, feh.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
28. That's an unstated point of my OP, but don't tell that to CNN, they're
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:05 AM
Sep 2015

in the process of trying to magnify Hillary's power, influence and keep her name out front.

Even given on your second sentence would only be subject to Hillary being both nominated and elected, if both of those don't happen, there is not much of anything that she could do to punish the biotechs as she's not a member of the government now and wouldn't be then unless she jumped both hurdles.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
30. Yup. I don't even bother, really, reading about her "positions" on anything.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:12 AM
Sep 2015

Reminds me of that Madonna video - "Vogue". Strike a pose. Not the most popular pose? Strike a different pose.

And it is kinda funny, having "detailed plans", when her supporters constantly say oh, the GOP Congress won't work with a Dem president. Like setting up excuses ahead of time.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
35. Recommend! Great Post & Fact Checking
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:51 AM
Sep 2015

saw this on CNN, also. I took it as a push to pump up Hillary's Health Care Plan unveiling today that both CNN & MSNBC were touting... claiming Hillary's Tweet caused Biotech Stock Crash showing up on both cables as the Morning News. Coordination....

As for CNN no other dynamics were at play in the biotech loss than a Hillary tweet, no mention of the medical organizations protest, no mention of the negative media coverage and no mention of Bernie.



Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
46. I would be interested in knowing which individuals and institutions have heavily invested
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:09 PM
Sep 2015

in shorting naked put options and standard put options on the biotech index?

This article is discussing naked put options as opposed to put options, specifically for the biotech sector, it's from 2008 but I believe it may also hold relevance.



Where to Find the Free Money in Biotech
By Dr. George Huang
Friday, September 19, 2008

So if we're looking for solid returns in the short term, holding a biotech ETF is not going to do it. Going long gets us nowhere for the next few months. Instead, we need to turn to the options market...

Options offer several ways to profit from a sideways market. My favorite strategy is "shorting naked puts."

That might sound complicated... and risky. But as I'll show you, shorting naked puts is pretty straightforward, and it actually gives you a bigger margin of safety than simply owning a stock.

When you short a naked put, you're selling a put option on a stock you don't own. In other words, you get paid upfront for agreeing to buy a stock at a specified price at some point in the future. If the stock declines, then you buy it at the bargain-basement price. If the stock trades sideways or up, you keep the option premium as a profit.

Selling naked puts is a fantastic way to profit in biotech. In no other sector are option premiums higher. Let me explain...


(snip)

http://www.growthstockwire.com/1923/where-to-find-the-free-money-in-biotech





In finance, a put or put option is a stock market device which gives the owner of the put the right, but not the obligation, to sell an asset (the underlying), at a specified price (the strike), by a predetermined date (the expiry or maturity) to a given party (the seller of the put). Put options are most commonly used in the stock market to protect against the decline of the price of a stock below a specified price. If the price of the stock declines below the specified price of the put option, the owner/buyer of the put has the right, but not the obligation, to sell the asset at the specified price, while the seller of the put has the obligation to purchase the asset at the strike price if the owner uses the right to do so (the owner/buyer is said to exercise the put or put option). In this way the buyer of the put will receive at least the strike price specified, even if the asset is currently worthless.

If the strike is K, and at time t the value of the underlying is S(t), then in an American option the buyer can exercise the put for a payout of K-S(t) any time up until the option's maturity time T. The put yields a positive return only if the security price falls below the strike when the option is exercised. A European option can only be exercised at time T rather than any time up until T, and a Bermudan option can be exercised only on specific dates listed in the terms of the contract. If the option is not exercised by maturity, it expires worthless. (Note that the buyer will not exercise the option at an allowable date if the price of the underlying is greater than K.)

The most obvious use of a put is as a type of insurance. In the protective put strategy, the investor buys enough puts to cover his holdings of the underlying so that if a drastic downward movement of the underlying's price occurs, he has the option to sell the holdings at the strike price. Another use is for speculation: an investor can take a short position in the underlying stock without trading in it directly.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Put_option



Thanks for being here, KoKo.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
59. Thank You!. Spot On! BTW CNBC questioned whether he had Shorted his Biotech
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:53 PM
Sep 2015

Holdings and he wouldn't answer except to say he had little holdings in Biotech...but was always "hedged" in his holdings with equal "puts & calls." Yeah...right. But, when Hillary Tweeted and Biotech fell we have to figure he made some money in his Biotech Stocks one way or the other!

What a creep he is. And, I think we just might hear more about his "dealings" since he's already withdrawn his Price Increase on the drugs he was criticized for ripping people off who couldn't afford them. But, only after the news of the "Harassment Lawsuit Against him came out later today.

This guy seems to have "played the game" but got caught up in his own criminality for his past deeds. Still this issue shouldn't go away because it exposes the problems that need to be fixed in the ACA and Big Pharma influence for the future. Plus what about our Criminal Stock Market... Who knows what they do in the back rooms with their Algorithms these days.



questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
39. they have entered the fight us stage
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:07 PM
Sep 2015

last sunday my local paper ran an article on hc...it did mention at the end that she had lost the lead in iowa and nh butttttttttt

did NOT say who she lost it to

twas an ap article by lisa lerer and kathleen ronayne

to be fair i do not know if the reporters left out WHO she lost her lead to or if my paper cut the article off

what i am trying to say is, this is going to be everywhere it is called "manufactured consent"

thanks for great op uncle joe

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
56. They dare not speak his name, I believe
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:36 PM
Sep 2015

much if not most of the corporate media believe that Bernie is Voldermort.

Peace to you, questioneverything.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
45. The deregulation of the Media was a crime against Democracy. Thankfully we have other means
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:05 PM
Sep 2015

of learning what they are up to now. Though I'm sure if the people don't take this country out of the hands of these Corporate thugs, they will do their best to buy up the internet also.

This is our chance while we still have a way to overcome the monopoly that took over the airwaves, to begin the process of restoring Democracy.

If we don't take it now, who knows where all this will end, so far it's been pretty brutal for the victims of the Corporate takeover.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
62. Thanks, Uncle Joe
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:41 PM
Sep 2015

a well-deserved window is opening, letting in a current of fresh air that demonstrates the truth: the corruption and unmitigated greed of big pharma. Mind boggling.

K&R

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
63. Not to mention the cynical, manipulative media coverage by CNN and its' ilk.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:59 PM
Sep 2015

Peace to you, Iwillnevergiveup.

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