Why Are Women Ditching Hillary?

[left-of-center2012]

Earlier this year Hillary Clinton seemed to have the female vote locked down, so why is she now having to work so hard to convince them to support with her campaign?

From last Saturday’s kickoff of “New Hampshire Women for Hillary,” to Clinton’s appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres Show last Thursday where she pitched,
“If you vote for somebody on the merits, one of my merits is that I’m a woman”.
(WOW ! Sexist? Imagine if Bernie said “Vote for me because I’m a man”?)

... local and national polls show that Clinton’s strength among Democratic women voters has continued to steadily
... the NBC News/ Marist poll Sanders Leads Clinton by 9 in N.H., Gains in Iowa: Poll, which showed Clinton losing to Sanders by nine points in New Hampshire, thanks mostly a huge drop in Clinton’s female support.

The slide among Democratic women in New Hampshire and Iowa mirrors a series of national polls that show Clinton’s performance among women on a steady downward trend ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/13/why-are-women-ditching-hillary.html

[djean111]

1. Hillary never had the female vote locked down. That is a sexist (IMO) myth perpetuated by her

supporters. More of a wish than a reality.

[davidpdx]

6. +1

You are on a role today.

[Demeter]

26. The expression is: "On a Roll"

and that's not a sub roll, either:

"on a roll"-- phrase of roll

1.( informal) experiencing a prolonged spell of success or good luck.

"the organization is on a roll"

This slangy term, alluding to the momentum in the act of rolling, dates from the second half of the 1900s, but roll alone has been used in this sense since the early 1800s...

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/on+a+roll

[djean111]

27. Hey, I will take a compliment no matter how it is spelled! I appreciate it! :-) n/t

[Demeter]

29. And you deserve it!

I'm just a hobby-etemologist/grammar nazi. Don't mind me. Consider it a public service announcement to save the language from the speakers/writers of same.

[roguevalley]

40. here here, demeter, or hear hear

which is it, demeter? that one ALWAYS throws me.

[DCBob]

2. Non-stop negative media coverage from RW media does have an impact..

even on women.

[djean111]

7. That seems to be such a common and misguided myth, as well.

Saying that women would all support Hillary, but they have been mislead and fooled by RW negative coverage is ridiculous. And, again, sexist. Are you truly thinking that the TPP and fracking and war, for example, would be things that all women would not care about, if not for the RW? As a matter of fact, a candidate being FOR the TPP, fracking, H-1B visas and war seems like a RW candidate.

[DCBob]

9. That's not at all what I said..

The negative media coverage is affecting all voter groups.. probably equally.

[Fawke Em]

22. Did you ever consider that it's not the negative media coverage at all?

It could be that women are finding other candidates better on the issues that matter to them. Period.

[djean111]

4. I never regarded my being a feminist as being about voting for someone just because they are

a woman. That, IMO, is not what feminism is about. That is sexism. As a feminist, it is great to see female candidates, but gender is not even on my list of attributes for a candidate. Someone who advocates war and cluster bombs and fracking and H-1B visa increases and the corporate "trade" agreements is not someone who is looking out for women and children. I don't care what their record says, this is now, and those things hurt women and children and men.

[DCBob]

8. Good grief.. there is more to women's issues than just abortion.

-- economic and social equality
-- domestic and sexual violence
-- stereotyping and sexualization in the media and advertizing
-- maternal leave and child care

Just to name a few.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Go to Texas where all but 6 abortion clinics have been closed

(I think 6 are still open, but they could have closed more clinics by now) Because of the draconian Texas laws. In 2011 there were 44 abortion clinics available in the state. Texas is a huge state. Most women will have to drive hours to and from a clinic. A little hard to do if you're poor or impoverished.

Equal pay for equal work is a huge issue. Pay gap - Women make .75 to every dollar a man makes.

Access to birth control if, as a woman, you choose to use it. Religious zealots seem to think they can tell women what to do with their own bodies.

Discrimination in the workplace as far as being promoted, when a woman deserves it - most often a man gets it instead - just because he's a man.

With that bring said, as a female, I don't support Hillary because I don't support:

The TPP
The XL pipeline
Fracking
Wall street thieves
Prisons for profits
Wars, wars, wars and more wars
The MIC
Allowing billionaires to buy our government
Corporate tax loopholes

Bernie is just as good on women's issue and also has a 100% NARAL rating, so Hillary has nothing on him on this issue. I vote on issues and not gender, skin color, ethnicity, sexuality or status.

[jwirr]

32. ^^^THIS^^^ Economics and other issues are women's

issues also. Yes, I know that issues like the right to abortion and birth pills is important so is the fact that we women are part of the economic structure of this country. We are not setting isolated from the rest of the mess we are in. We want to hear about the issues that effect all of us and make our decision on that.

The last issue on my list of troubles is that we need a woman president because it is time. We need to save our country from things like corporate globalization and banksters. Those are the issues we all share in regardless of gender.

[rock]

10. Codswallop

Not even a good try.

[jwirr]

34. Off topic - did you get that word out of a medieval

history book on Kindle? I am reading such a book right now.

[jwirr]

44. Ah, okay. Not the same book.

[PADemD]

12. Maybe it was because of her recent promise of a muscular foreign policy.

[Le Taz Hot]

13. If you're entire platform is

"vote for me because I have a vagina" you really should look for a new line of work.

[antigop]

14. um, maybe because they have to eat?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780.html

When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. . . . We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."

[cyberswede]

15. “If you vote for somebody on the merits, one of my merits is that I’m a woman”.

She didn't really say that, did she?

[Divernan]

25. Another HRC attempt at humor which bombed. Totally clueless!

[HooptieWagon]

33. Yep, she did.

It was on the Ellen Degeneres show, which presumably has a large # of women viewers. But I think she grossly underestimated the intelligence and saavy of those viewers. I'm thinking her consultants and PR hacks came from a 50s time-warp or something. Millennials are probably WTF?

[840high]

41. Oy vey - that doesn't appeal to me.

[wyldwolf]

16. New ABC poll

I'd take these numbers any day.

[left-of-center2012]

17. " New ABC poll"

IMHO
Homer could beat 'The Donald'

[wyldwolf]

18. be that as it may, it certainly disproves your OP

[left-of-center2012]

19. it certainly disproves your OP

Uh, no
One poll does not an election win make
IMHO

[wyldwolf]

21. You're right. But the editorial you posted uses a poll to make her point.

I'll take the latest poll over last week's any day.

[cyberswede]

20. No it doesn't

The OP is about Clinton's downward trend with women; it's not about how womens' support for her compares with womens' support for Trump.

The slide among Democratic women in New Hampshire and Iowa mirrors a series of national polls that show Clinton’s performance among women on a steady downward trend ...

[hedgehog]

23. I'm ditching Hillary because I have a nephew in the Army -

I'd like to keep him and all service members out of a war started to back a muscular foreign policy.

[left-of-center2012]

24. On one hand (you have five fingers?)

On one hand you have a candidate who leads a populist, progressive revolution.
On the other hand you have a candidate who supports the status quo, more of the same, blah, blah, blah.

[Doctor_J]

28. her gender is the only thing holding her afloat

[Metric System]

30. Not her experience?

[left-of-center2012]

31. No

From what she's demonstrated,
she's failed to learn from her experience.

[HooptieWagon]

35. Not only failed to learn,...

...but doubling down on the mistakes.

[Doctor_J]

36. If an old white guy was running in the democratic primary with her experience as a neo-liberal dc

Insider backed by wall street, the private prison industry, and big oil, and promising more war, that old white guy would be polling in the single digits

[cyberswede]

37. I disagree.

Any candidate with as much experience as she has would be a contender, regardless of gender.

(But I would still support Sanders.)

[Faux pas]

38. I am a woman

and I haven't liked hillary since she was first lady. I think she's totally out of touch with the 'real' world and that's a serious turn off. I guess I'm not the only one...

[Zorra]

39. Our local Bernie Group consists of 50% women and 50% men. nt

[left-of-center2012]

46. Huh? Say what?

"How about her latest faux pas?
Thx Box?"

[Le Taz Hot]

45. Back in the 90's when she made that crack about how she

"didn't stay home and bake cookies" absolutely pissed me off and I say that as a life-long career woman and feminist. To have the temerity to put down a role traditionally held by women and NOW I'm supposed to vote for her because she's a woman? I'd say that takes guts but what it takes is an assumption that we're all stupid.