After shocking Iowa, Sanders's supporters are moving onto South Carolina...

[Fawke Em]

The South Carolina AFL-CIO executive board passed a resolution supporting U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ candidacy for the Democratic Party presidential nomination and recommending his endorsement by the state and national labor organization.
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders

“We call on the AFL-CIO, union members and working people everywhere to unite behind Bernie Sanders and elect the president Americas’ workers desperately need,” the resolution said. The resolution “strongly urges” the national AFL-CIO to endorse Sanders.

http://njtoday.net/2015/08/30/sanders-wins-south-carolina-afl-cio-endorsement/#.VeR4MonuSX4.twitter

Sanders once again is receiving peoples' endorsements instead of beltway support.

[roguevalley]

1. agreed. unions are boots on the groiund. Shaheen is nice but she can't raise an army.

[yeoman6987]

31. I had no idea the Iowa caucus was held

I really need to pay more attention.

[roguevalley]

32. is that all? all the senators in the world don't trump union commitment

[SoapBox]

2. And just to mention...

Maybe a week ago, there was an article about Bernie's polling increase in Wisconsin.

The Sanderstorm is going to cover America!

Go Bernie!

[HereSince1628]

35. The national polling will be interesting over the next several weeks

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I really wonder about the psychological impact of Clinton dropping below 50%.

I wonder if the DesMoine Register poll which was conducted after the first hints of Clinton dropping below 50% was part of that.

Interesting sept shaping up with Clinton and Sanders on opposite sides of TPP, and TPP coming up for votes.

[Babel_17]

40. I agree, people seeing that there's a real race, and real differences in the candidates ...

I agree, people seeing that there's a real race, and real differences in the candidates, is stirring things up.

[beerandjesus]

41. "Sanderstorm", hahahahaha!

First time I've heard that one, that's awesome!

[left-of-center2012]

3. Oh no !

Now some South Carolinian will have to step up and claim how much better, smarter, wiser, experienced
and good looking Bernie's opponent is.

[stage left]

5. It won't be THIS South Carolinian!

Knock em dead, Bernie!

[beerandjesus]

42. Nor this one!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

7. I just read a post today that HRC had a great ground game in SC, and NO WAY can Bernie win!

Sometimes you have to wait a few hours for the laughter to go from H to B supporters but it always eventually happens.

[Fawke Em]

12. LOL!

That article was "mansplaining" at it's best.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Good for Bernie! ...

Notice the complete lack of facebook posts of union members, and/or DUers that know of union members, complaining about the South Carolina AFL-CIO, undemocratically, not having polled them, personally, prior to issuing the endorsement?

Just saying ...

[druidity33]

22. Maybe no one's complaining? nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

23. Yeah ... Or, perhaps ...

no one feels that NOT getting your way is a sign of some grand conspiracy.

[druidity33]

24. are you're implying

that there's some grand conspiracy here...? I am a Union organizer and Steward, and i have had conversations with members who would rather we don't EVER endorse anyone. I actually did at my yearly Steward Seminar have several conversations with folk who were not happy with the speed of that particular HRC endorsement... they felt it was too early to endorse and not enough members were polled. If you find discontent about this Bernie endorsement on the internets i say feel free to post it with links.

As a Bernie supporter and Union guy i would also say i think it's too early to endorse anyone. Let's have at least one debate before we do that, shall we?

[1StrongBlackMan]

25. No ... Quite the opposite. I am noting the absence of people complaining about the endorsement ...

despite, a reasonable concern that it is too early for endorsements, if unions are to endorse at all.

Quite the difference among supporters, there.

[Babel_17]

34. Sanders is the insurgent candidate, HRC the establishment one

Union leaders who acted early were probably surprised by the objections when they decided to pull the trigger in favor of HRC. She was the establishment candidate, and with a known quality of support for Unions. Well, that's water under the bridge, and Union leaders are now likely, imo, to be much more aware of Sanders surging popularity (going by the polls) with their members.

I have to think it likely that if a branch of a Union is getting behind Sanders, who is not the establishment candidate at this time, it's because he's the quintessential ally of Unions, and because he's got a lot of popularity within the local. This would go to helping explain the absence of visible protests from HRC supporters within the local. I'm sure those HRC supporters would have preferred HRC getting their Union's endorsement, but evidently they aren't concerned enough about it to publish online their disagreement.

It's even possible that they see endorsing Sanders as a win-win. If he gets nominated, great. If HRC gets nominated, she'll likely have had to come out more in support of issues that concern these Union members. Even HRC supporters might be thinking it helps to send her campaign a message.

[Metric System]

6. Hold up...the Executive Board decided? As in, members didn't get a vote?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

10. Yeah, so what - they are elected leaders.

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. So were/are the Executive Committee of the Teacher's Union. n/t

[left-of-center2012]

11. Remember?

The teachers union went with Hillary against the wishes of the teachers.

[Motown_Johnny]

15. Have you heard any of these union members protest?

If not, then you are comparing apples and oranges.

[left-of-center2012]

17. Have you heard any of these union members protest?

Yes. It was on the evening network news at the time.

[Vincardog]

44. I have. I live with one of them and she protested to me.

[Fawke Em]

13. No. Apparently, it was proposed in June and then

it moved it's way, democratically, through to the board before they finalized it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/13/1393069/-South-Carolina-AFLCIO-Calls-On-Labor-To-Endorse-Bernie-Sanders

The main group, headed by Trumka, has not endorsed. This is the state group's decision.

Even so:



On edit: Seems the SC AFL-CIO waited two months to make a final endorsement instead of taking an online poll that only a few members took part in. The teachers' group only allotted three weeks for their online poll. I'd venture to say that the SC AFL-CIO probably isn't a huge group, given the red-state nature of hating labor unions for no apparent reason (and I'm in Tennessee. I can say this). They probably had face-to-face discussions.

[Babel_17]

38. Very informative, thanks for getting that, and posting it

This makes this story even more impressive.

[oberliner]

8. Primary voting is over 5 months away

This horse race stuff is getting ridiculous at this point.

[Fawke Em]

14. Not meant as a "horse race" post.

I merely posted this information to show that people are actively working to endorse/support/promote Sanders in states where conventional wisdom says he has no chance.

I'll leave the horse racing to Victor Espinoza.

[oberliner]

16. Understood

It's just the whole "shocking Iowa" thing. I mean there haven't been any results yet.

It is really exciting to see support for Sanders building though.

[Fawke Em]

21. Oh, sorry.

I borrowed the "shocking" crap from the M$M. That's the way they presented Sanders' coming within 7 points of Clinton in the latest Iowa poll.

I'm a former reporter (worked 13 years in and have spent the past 12 in marketing/PR - all within my communications degree) and find that news reporting has become absolutely inane, vile and bowing to authority in the years since I left.

My remark was meant more to goad my own chosen profession - the reason I studied communications in college - than to emmulate the horse race.

[Motown_Johnny]

18. Given his lead in NH, and the closer race in IO

SC is an going to be an interesting contest. NV is a caucus, so we will need to see how that works out. I believe Hillary won that in '08.

Those first 4 states tend to define a candidate. If Bernie can win 3 of them and come close in the 4th, Hillary's coronation will need to be postponed.

[oberliner]

19. Yeah but I think it's really hard to predict this far out

I mean there is so much time. Lots can happen.

[Motown_Johnny]

20. agreed.

But it is nice to see someone build from nothing (or next to nothing) to being competitive with someone who is supposed to be inevitable.

[Cry]

28. Not postponed...

Cancelled.

She is on a suicidial downward spiral based on recent pollings. She lost NH, she will be about to lose the rest of the states in a domino effect.

[Motown_Johnny]

30. It is to early to make that call.

I think she is falling apart too but there is still a lot of time before the convention.

[L0oniX]

43. +1 ...your optimistic outlook.

[cali]

9. time for south Carolinians to be reminded that Bernie doesn't care about minorities

Which south Carolina Hillary surrogate will pop up to do it?

[Babel_17]

37. Great opportunity for prominent South Carolinians to differentiate themselves

There's an opportunity here for those in that establishment to rise up, and speak out, in support of Sanders. If ever a politician felt they had a great speech inside, but lacked any real opportunity to frame it*, well, here's that opportunity.
Speak for all the people who's needs aren't being addressed by our current system. Speak for them, speak for yourself, speak in support of Sanders.

*That's every politician, so maybe we'll see Sanders get a surprising amount of support/nice things said about him.

[morningfog]

27. It will never work. Bernie is for white voters only.

[PatrickforO]

29. This is a very big deal! Hooray!

Bernie IS on the side of all workers, and we all know!

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. Wait. Vermont was too white. New Hampshire is too white. Iowa is too white...

How soon before Bernie leads in South Carolina and Hillary Supporters blame it on white people?

[Bubzer]

36. Wow! Thats realy big news!

[WillyT]

39. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!