I'm sorry I made snarky comments about Sanders' mostly white crowds a few weeks ago.

[Nye Bevan]

As a Hillary supporter, I couldn't resist the temptation. Of course I knew that Sanders is a good progressive and would be every bit as effective as Hillary in addressing racism. And I never imagined that we would be seeing the kind of unhinged attacks on him where even DUers are posting that some of his supporters are white supremacists. Bizarre, shocking, and I'm sure the Republicans are loving every minute of it.

[Agschmid]

1. Kick.

The accusations on both sides are OTT, IMO.

[99th_Monkey]

2. Awesome post, like a breath of fresh air. Thank you. nt

[artislife]

3. It is so easy

to be held hostage by one post one makes on this site.

Pretty hostile crowd when they want to be. Me, too. I cannot say I am above it. I will try to have a woman's heart from here on out...heh


Thanks for posting this!

[dreamnightwind]

4. Thanks - eom

[hootinholler]

5. Come to the light side

We have cookies

[Agschmid]

23. Are they vegan? Gluten free?

[daleanime]

53. And low sodium?

[robbob]

60. If they are vegan and gluten free...

...are they even cookies any more? 😝

Sorry, couldn't resist. Our local healthy eatery, The Quirky Carrot, makes amazing sandwiches, awesome soups and salads, and fantastic smoothies (sipping on a cherry cocoa almond milk one right now!), but I've given up on the vegan deserts! It's like chewing on flavoured sawdust!

[questionseverything]

6. takes a big person to admit they were wrong

this gentleman gets the divide and concur strategy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017285229

[navarth]

21. yes. That brother put it all down where it needs to be IMO. +++1

[questionseverything]

26. yes, he gives me hope

and reminded me...the 1% will give up nothing without a fight

[mmonk]

7. Thank you.

Very nice.

[Indepatriot]

8. Thank You. You're showing real integrity with this post. (we have coffee too to go with the cookies)

[merrily]

50. Peets, freshly ground, to order.

[magical thyme]

9. Thank you, Nye. Apology accepted...

Fwiw, I stumbled across a picture of a Black Lives Matter protest that took place just a couple hours to my south back in April. I remember being sorry I was overbooked at work and couldn't get the time off to go. It goes a long way towards explaining Bernie's early very white crowds.



http://www.pressherald.com/2015/04/16/dozens-march-to-portland-city-hall-protesting-against-racism/

[merrily]

51. Good to know.

Apropos of nothing, that looks like a lovely building with beautiful iron work.

One of the few things I dislike about Boston is its city hall.

[Ed Suspicious]

10. Thank you.

[Snotcicles]

11. This calls for an Antonio Porchia quote. "The confession of one humbles all" nt. (edited typo)

Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

[daleanime]

54. Nice.

[RussBLib]

63. That's Porchia, actually

honest mistake

[bsmarty]

12. You can't deny

You can't deny that DU has looked more and more like a right-wing site the past couple of days. I haven't seen this many white people talk down to black people since I watched The Help a few years ago.

[Maedhros]

17. I can, and will, deny it.

BLM is not synonymous with "black people" - it is a loose organization with no central message or leadership. Criticizing the tactics of a few loose cannons is not "talking down" to anyone.

[Duckhunter935]

29. Link to one

[m-lekktor]

34. NOBODY is above criticism I don't care what color you are. nt

[Maedhros]

45. You can't even count them, because they didn't happen.

Nobody is criticizing "black people in general" on this site. That you would even claim something so stupid is comical.

/bye.

[LiberalElite]

25. You know this after 4 posts? Wow. nt

[druidity33]

49. I think it's bs..... marty at work again. nt.

[Ed Suspicious]

28. Was that a healthy feeling dump you took on this thread?

[haikugal]

32. No, couldn't have been (healthy)..where's the air freshener

[merrily]

52. Wasn't the first one. Not that that is an excuse.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

41. Are you the ghost of Bravenak? MaggieD? (n/t)

[Dont call me Shirley]

13. You are forgiven, Nye.

[romanic]

14. Apology accepted Nye.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. Note the lack of snarky comments from Sanders supporters to your post.

[MisterP]

16. you never can tell what twist the campaigning might take and turn a jibe into something that seems

horrifying in retrospect

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FunnyAneurysmMoment

[GoneFishin]

18. Thanks. Awesome post.

[navarth]

20. Good on ya.

That's what we need.

[MerryBlooms]

22. A very kind and welcomed gesture, thank you.

I have stayed away from the negative posts on both Sanders and Clinton. I don't rec them, I don't participate in them. I have never considered myself a bigot, let alone a liberal white supremacist... it's been tough today to see myself grouped with people I've despised and spoke against ever since I can remember, just because I support Bernie Sanders. The worst though, is Bernie Sanders being referred to as a liberal white supremacist. A man who lost so much of his family to The Holocaust...

I still say we need more protests than less.

I will continue my support for social justice.

[Duckhunter935]

27. Thank you for your honesty

It has gotten kind of crazy

[R. P. McMurphy]

30. You, Nye, are a True Democrat.

Thanks. That's the best compliment I can give you.

Whoever our nominee is we're going to thrash those republicans in 2016!

[TheBlackAdder]

31. Nye, you are a standup person!

.

Everyone makes mistakes... perhaps in the post, a rewrite could save the day when called out on a mistake.

But, people here are too sensitive and too quick with the flag button, nearing the point of nausea.



.

[haikugal]

33. K&R!

[JEB]

35. Now you're talkin'. Thanks for the candid statement.

[ibegurpard]

36. you can't unring that bell

And the Hillary campaign can't take back the initial messaging that others have now run with. But I certainly understand the place where that was coming from for you personally and I have a tremendous amount of respect for you for saying this

[Doctor_J]

39. I'm always surprised when people are surprised at the effect of their actions

The op makes a post implying, not subtly, that Sanders is a racist. Dozens of duers agree, and the meme spreads like cancer. A few weeks later some black people attack Sanders and call him and his supporters white supremacist liberals. Did someone really not see this coming?

[Babel_17]

37. That was nice of you to say (nt)

[LiberalAndProud]

38. Thank you, Nye.

I have had to avoid those threads to avoid knowing which posters are saying the most hurtful things. And to avoid saying, "You don't know me." Because they don't.

Thank you again. You're words are helpful and healing.

[Uncle Joe]

40. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Nye Bevan.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

42. I've been on DU an unhealthy amount of time this weekend...

but that was a really pleasant thing to see as I get ready to pull the plug for the day. Crap, next day. It's Monday already!

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. Yer bitchin'.

[Ken Burch]

44. Thank you. n/t.

[davidpdx]

46. Nye, I really appreciate you saying that

I wish more people who said the same things would admit what they said was not correct. Even if I weren't supporting Sanders, I can't imagine him being racist.

[awoke_in_2003]

47. So is the DNC. nt

[beam me up scottie]

48. What a cool thing to say, Nye Bevan.

We need to remember the biggest threat comes from the other side of the aisle.

Eating our own only helps them.

[DownriverDem]

55. Same Page

As long as Bernie supporters realize that we are all on the same page when it comes to defeating the repubs in 2016. I am a Hillary supporter, but will vote for Bernie if he gets the nomination. I'm not so sure Bernie supporters would say the same and that is the problem I see with them. Also, why do repubs want Bernie to be the nominee? I keep asking, but no one will answer me.

[LWolf]

56. I hope all my fellow Sanders supporters

will take the positive and inclusive road that Bernie's campaign and Symone Sanders laid out for us last night. "We Stand Together."

I don't take loyalty oaths, but I can assure you that I will do my best to ensure that no republican is elected in the general election.

My answer to your question:

Sanders is unique in this campaign in that his appeal crosses all kinds of boundaries. He's campaigning to fight for the 99%. That 99% includes all genders, races and ethnicities, faiths, backgrounds, political affiliations, sexual orientation...everyone that makes up the 99% in this country. He'll do well in the general election because of that; he'll pull in votes from all over that Democrats don't normally get, including the non-voters.

The biggest obstacle to overcome is the nomination; if we can achieve that, we're going to win in November 2016.

[jeff47]

57. They don't want Bernie to be the nominee.

They have 40 years of opposition research on Clinton.

Clinton has an underwater "favorability" rating that keeps going down as the campaign moves on.

They have a perfect-for-30-second-ads "scandal" with her email server ("She gave away our secrets" as a manila folder marked "secret" falls into dark-skinned hands, mixed with videos of ISIS)

Thanks to 40 years of demonizing Clinton, Republican voters will crawl over broken glass to vote against Clinton. Even if the Republican nominee promises to execute all of them. No other candidate inspires such hatred.

Meanwhile, she's getting a "meh" in enthusiasm from Democrats.

That is the perfect opponent for the GOP.

[The Green Manalishi]

59. ANYONE who won't vote for the nominee has NO place on DU. PERIOD

I support Bernie. I'll vote for the person who runs as our nominee. Anyone who won't should get the F**K off of DU and STAY the F**K off of DU and I'll tell them to their face.
Period, no 'ifs', 'ands', or 'butts'.

[blackspade]

58. K&R!

[JDPriestly]

61. Thanks for your post.

When Hillary is unfairly attacked, I oppose that.

I do think she is picked on by the Republicans unfairly.

Unfortunately, I expect that Hillary will be attacked so much that it will seriously hurt her candidacy.

The Republicans will make her candidacy impossible, and she will get very few cross-overs because of the unfair and vicious attacks on her that have occurred over many years.

Whether Sanders or Clinton is the object of these unfair, lying, vicious attacks, the real losers are the voters who do not get to find out the truth, the clean truth about the candidates because of the distractions including lies and unfair accusations.

We all need to rally to end these unfair accusations whether we support the candidate being attacked or not. They are making democracy very difficult.

[Bubzer]

62. K&R

[L0oniX]

64. Wow ...I am shocked. There really are good Hillary supporters after all.