Hillary Clinton mentioned 38 times in the GOP debate. Senator Sanders Zero times.

[onehandle]

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The nominee:



It's not a preference. It's not an endorsement.

It's a fear of Hillary and the knowledge that she is #45.

Wake up!

[Autumn]

1. The republicans have declared her the nominee...

Those guys are all idiots, anyone would be hard pressed to pick out the stupidest comment by any of them.

[catnhatnh]

4. Some ringing endorsement, Heh??? N/T

[Autumn]

6. Yeah, a hell of an endorsement by a bunch of clowns that

need directions on how to find their ass to scratch it.

[Cleita]

5. So much for the meme being passed around here that Bernie

has all those conservatives supporting him, therefore he must be a tea bagging libertarian.

[artislife]

7. Well....

stammer, stammer.

[Autumn]

8. I've never have known republicans to be right.

This makes me happy, very happy that they ignored Bernie and focused on her.

[Cleita]

9. Me too.

They won't see the Bernie bomb until it hits them because they were looking in the wrong direction.

[HerbChestnut]

2. Well...

She is leading in the polls and is an easy target. What would you expect them to do?

[still_one]

10. That is the real reason, but can't use that because it doesn't fit into the talking point

[stevenleser]

19. No, the real reason is 75% of the GOP electorate don't know who Sanders is and wouldn't get

any reference.

[still_one]

22. Steve, 75% of the GOP electorate is batshit crazy. Look at the candidates they have

[stevenleser]

23. In addition they don't know who Sanders is.

[still_one]

27. I disagree. You know everyone of the republican candidates, and Bernie has not been sitting around.

He has been getting a lot of attention, and crowds, plus he is getting media attention. O'Malley, is kind of in the shadows, but it seems his campaign is starting to do more aggressive campaigning which should increase his visibility.

[Ken Burch]

32. A majority of the GOP electorate think the Earth is less than 6,000 years old.

[kenfrequed]

59. Which actually works in our favor.

It is hard for republicans to get excited enough to turn out to vote against someone they aren't familiar with.

Bernie very clearly excites the base and dampens Republican turn out. What could possibly be better?

[Cleita]

3. Now it's confirmed. They are her peeps. Eom

[George II]

13. Yeah, sure....they want her to be elected President........

....

[Cleita]

15. They want her to be the candidate their candidate goes up against

in the general because they know they can beat her.

[restorefreedom]

38. nailed it. nt

[Sheepshank]

45. in what way does pounding on Hillary help get her elected?

I would think leaving a Dem candidate alone, letting them slide under the GOP "nasty radar" would be all the assistance any candidate would need.

Just imagine the wonderfulness of Hillary's campaign, if a Republican ignored her existance? I think you are trying too hard for some sort of political reverse psychology.

[sufrommich]

47. It doesn't. They attack the democrat they fear the most. Any

other convoluted explanation is wishful thinking.

[kenfrequed]

61. It doesn't get her elected

It gets her the nomination. They want her to win the nomination because they think she will be easier to beat.

The GOP is gunshy about surprise populist candidates that seem to come out of nowhere after Obama.

When they thought Bernie was just going to be trouble for Hillary and make the road to the nomination bumpy but inevitable they were more than happy to have some of their pundits name drop him. Now that he is a fast growing factor it is deja vu all over again.

And the candidates do not want to mention a candidate that most of their base has never heard of. The hard right base is still frothing about the various bullshit scandals that Issa and the GOP rat-f#@& squad pumped up to use on Hillary. Hell, GOP Hillary hate is multi-generational. In their pantheon of opposition bringing up Bernie Sanders is like bringing up Anton Levay rather than Satan.

[Sheepshank]

62. ahh no....there was no gushing at Hillary, it was all slams...how does that help her nomination?.

Not only about Hillary but her aquaintances. Then there was the consistent slam aout her relationship with Obama. There was nothing there that was about giving anything to Hillary on any sort of imaginary platter.

[kenfrequed]

64. You do know how this works.... Right?

The opposition always positions strategically to both highlight their own existence and pump up the candidate or candidate's they prefer to run against. Giving a jab to your preferred general election opposition is practically a standard in races like this.

Stop being intentionally obtuse.

[Sheepshank]

69. last I heard, jabbing and pumping up are two different things

She was jabbed over and over. I saw absolutely no evience of pumping her up.

In fact, with Bernie's name not being slammed, if there was any pumping, it was Bernie.

[kenfrequed]

70. Ok

Yeah, I can see this conversation is a big waste of my time. You aren't even interfacing with how basic election strategy works.

Clearly being a booster for Hillary is all you are doing without concern for discussion.

[JackInGreen]

11. When

Did we start letting the Republican field start declaring our primary winner?

[artislife]

63. Isn't that part of the third way? nt

[silenttigersong]

12. The Masters

Prefer Hillary pretty simple eh

[George II]

14. They're TERRIFIED of her. Go HILLARY!!!!

[okasha]

16. Let's see if she gets an invite to Liberty.

A thousand to one she won't--becuz that could give their wimminz idears.

[silenttigersong]

24. Most likely

Women already have idearz

[TheProgressive]

17. Ben Carson, of all people, said 'Hillary won't be the Dem nominee... "

How prescient.... He is so right...

[kenfrequed]

65. Even a stopped clock...

At least I can hope.

[jeff47]

18. Do you really think endorsement by the Republican candidates helps in the Democratic primary? (nt)

[Jamaal510]

20. They don't take Sanders, O'Malley, etc. seriously,

but it's more than that. Mentioning HC (and Pres. O) is like playing a whistle to the audience and the rest of their base to start foaming at the mouth so they'll score cheap points.

[Thinkingabout]

21. They are attacking her, must think she is going to be the nominee and would really rather someone

else as the DNC nominee so they can win. I can see where they would push the socialists issue with Bernie, they did with Obama and Obama did not declare himself as a socialists. I have been waiting to see the primary getting started and it is moving in the right direction for Hillary.

[silenttigersong]

25. Lets speculate

There is already a comparrison of Sanders and Trump ,so the Masters ie Goldman Sachs do not care if it is Jeb or Hillary,do not forget it is a club u are nt in it....Trump is a usefull Idiot so to speak to marginilize Sanders duhh

[PatrickforO]

26. Yes, BUT...

In the lead up one of the correspondents showed the top five contenders for President, and they were Trump, Clinton, Bush, someone else and Bernie Sanders. She actually said his name, but nothing more.

[SandersTheManders]

28. This media blackout on Bernie is ridiculous

Never have I noticed so much corruption in the media, to flat out ignore a very popular candidate who has pulled larger crowds than anyone else so far... Drives me crazy. But for the first time today I saw a Bernie bumper sticker on someones car, and that gave me some hope. Everyone has to start chipping in to get his name out there more. Buy a tshirt, bumper sticker, whatever. Every little bit helps. Heres a few things I found on Ebay I liked. Got a shirt plus a few bumper stickers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bernie-Sanders-Bumper-Sticker-President-2016-Oval-4-x-6-/252047414218?hash=item3aaf3253ca

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.A0.H0.Xbernie+sanders.TRS2&_nkw=bernie+sanders&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=bernie+sanders&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.A0.H0.Xbernie+sanders+bumper+sticker.TRS2&_nkw=bernie+sanders+bumper+stickers&_sacat=0


We have to get proactive to make his name known everywhere. Obviously we can't trust the media to be "fair and balanced".

[MoveIt]

49. This!!!

Screw the media telling us who to vote for! Go Sanders!

[Reter]

29. They want her to win the primary, that's why they did it

They know she would be cake. They're terrified of Bernie.

[JDPriestly]

30. That proves my point: The Republicans are the ones who are "ready" for Hillary.

And that is why we must nominate Bernie Sanders.

They are not ready for Bernie, and they never will be.

He would throw their game off and into the dump.

There is just nothing they can do to stop Bernie. Lots they can do to stop Hillary. They've been preparing for a fight with Hillary for almost 24 years.

[Ken Burch]

31. How does it help to start arrogant threads like this?

I'm pretty sure you're candidate wouldn't actually want you posting all these "suck it, Sanders and O'Malley supporters" threads.

Makes it sound like you're afraid of having a real contest in the primaries.

Don't think she is...so why are you?

[djean111]

54. Illuminating as fuck all, isn't it? Cheap arrogance. "Wake up", indeed. Feh.

I am awake, thank you very much - and I support Bernie. And my ENTHUSIASM is not even remotely transferable.

[AtomicKitten]

33. Exactly what happened in 2007/08.

They wanted to run against her so bad, Rush Limbaugh rallied the dittoheads to vote for her in the Democratic primary. You'd have better luck with this kind of OP with people actually born yesterday

[NCTraveler]

34. Come on onehandle, it's name recognition.

They don't know who he is.

[Motown_Johnny]

35. They want to run against her. They are planning on it

because the mud their smear machine churns out sticks to her.


They are not afraid of her.

[ismnotwasm]

36. K&R

[Cosmic Kitten]

37. CLEARLY, they FEAR the Bern!

They WANT to run against Hillary.

Hillary will galvanize Right-wingers.
Hillary is UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Hillary is evenly matched against republicans
in the "polls"
It's a coin toss against Hillary.

Bernie will mop the floor with them....
and they are so afraid of him the dare not mention HIM.

Bernie will steal votes from republicans,
Hillary will mobilize the republican base.

[restorefreedom]

39. word. nt

[Cosmic Kitten]

40. Clinton’s Mega-Donors Are Also Funding Jeb Bush

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Hillary Clinton’s Mega-Donors Are Also Funding Jeb Bush
Racetrack owners, bankers, and chicken kings: Meet the ultra-rich bankrolling the Bush and Clinton dynasties. A special report by Vocativ and The Daily Beast.

For some wealthy donors, it doesn’t matter who takes the White House in 2016—as long as the president’s name is Clinton or Bush.

More than 60 ultra-rich Americans have contributed to both Jeb Bush’s and Hillary Clinton’s federal campaigns, according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission data by Vocativ and The Daily Beast. Seventeen of those contributors have gone one step further and opened their wallets to fund both Bush’s and Clinton’s 2016 ambitions.

After all, why support just Hillary Clinton or just Jeb Bush when you can hedge your bets and donate to both? This seems to be the thinking of a group of powerful men and women—racetrack owners, bankers, media barons, chicken magnates, hedge funders (and their spouses). Some of them have net worths that can eclipse the GDPs of small countries.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

[ileus]

42. The attempt to hide failed...

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[Cosmic Kitten]

43. Thanks for the heads up

Interesting that the "Hide It" voters
did not include any explanation?

Anywhooo, the repubs know that
Hillary is their best chance to win
the general election in 2016

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton trails three top Republican presidential candidates in head-to-head matchups in Colorado, Iowa and Virginia, a new survey shows.

The latest Quinnipiac University swing state polling released Wednesday shows the Democratic frontrunner trailing former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in each of those states.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/hillary-clinton-marco-rubio-jeb-bush-polls/

Is it any wonder why the republicans are
promoting Hillary and ignoring Bernie

[George II]

72. It was such a ridiculous alert that they were probably laughing too hard to type an explanation...

....and responses to alerts don't allow jurors to add:

[ladjf]

41. It might indicate a fear of Sanders. He could be their worst nightmare. nt

[Sheepshank]

44. I think there is a concerted effort to sink Hillary asap

They are afraid, they are concerned, they are worried. They must do everything to get her out of the race because they don't see any other Dem candidate as a real threat.

Did anyone else get a stank of deperation from almost everyone on the stage?

[onehandle]

46. That and also an air of capitulation.

The GOP race is about getting a slot, then losing to Hillary, but gaining a bunch of book deals and many speakers fees.

[Armstead]

68. No I got a stank of Conventional Wisdom

"No other candidates exist. There is only Hillary and a few little guys who are running vanity campaigns."

That's one reason we need debates. Shake up that stale skanky Conventional Wisdom. At least go through the motions of pretending that BOTH parties have not been bought and sold by Corporate America.

[MoveIt]

48. She's got the Republican Endorsement! Gosh that's all I need!

[sufrommich]

50. I don't think "endorsement" means what you think it means. nt

[MoveIt]

55. I know what it means, but maybe you are unclear.

It means they really want to run against her.

[sufrommich]

58. It means nothing of a sort. It means they think she's

going to be the democratic candidate and that they need to start attacking her now. At no time in any election ever have the opposition gone after someone they "want" to win the primary,it doesn't work that way and never has. Attacking the strongest opponent is politics 101.Your theory makes no sense in any realistic way.

[HassleCat]

51. Demonizing

Yeah. They feel the need to dig into the barrel of fear and sling some around the stage. Right now I'm listening to a group of local citizens explain to each other why Clinton is going to lose. They agree she's unstoppable unless somebody comes up with a criminal indictment against her, so they realize their chances are slim.

[kenfrequed]

52. It is a preference.

They know that Hillary gins up their base more than Bernie does.

Also, if you have been getting all frothy and crazy and feeding your followers on red meat and bullshit scandals for six years (emails, bengazi, etc) are you going to mention the person you have been pumping up as the Antichrist in heels or are you going to use the name of a Senator that most republicans have never heard of?

The GOP would prefer to run against Hillary.

[djean111]

56. You nailed it. They have a wealth of baggage to attack, and they are attacking her RIGHT NOW in

Congress. Their base hates her. Also - no, the GOP women are not going to defect just because Hillary is a woman. Dream on.

[Godhumor]

53. As far as Republicans go, they think she is pretty much running unopposed

So they are either:

- Differentiating from the Democratic nominee
- Trying to force her out to be presented with a cakewalk candidate in the Democratic side
- Energizing the Clinton hate that continues to eat at their base

None of that changes the fact that it will be extremely hard to stop HRC from taking the presidency.

[jonno99]

57. I think this will change after the first few Dem debates. Relatively few people have

actually heard Bernie speak.

[oldandhappy]

60. zero re voting rights, zero re climate change

[artislife]

66. Maybe it's because they hang out with her

At the prayer meetings, at the weddings, at the same donors offices...

She's one of them, just slightly to the left.

[whatchamacallit]

67. Great minds think alike

Hill supporters + GOP candidates come together again.

[kenn3d]

71. And The Winner Of The Fox News GOP Presidential Debate?… Bernie Sanders

According to Twitter, the hashtag #DebateWithBernie was used 56,748 times and @BernieSanders was mentioned 59,935 times during the debate.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/and-the-winner-of-the-fox-news-gop-presidential-debate-bernie-sanders/208442/