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LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:48 AM Jul 2015

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Exactly! Android3.14 Jul 2015 #1
Those are two of three BIG things that keep me from supporting her in the primaries. Tommymac Jul 2015 #9
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #2
...a whole bunch. L0oniX Jul 2015 #25
Yes, indeed! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #37
"..a close relationship with Corporate America" . (Hillary Clinton) Sienna86 Jul 2015 #3
It's a no brainier for anyone wishing for a return of Representative Democracy! Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #4
You would think, right? Reading DU makes azmom Jul 2015 #20
. Alkene Jul 2015 #5
Damn I wish I could rec your post. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #21
And Hillary and Bill are part of that club no matter how populist and folksy they try to pretend YOHABLO Jul 2015 #29
+ 1,000,000,000 - What George Said !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #31
George would have loved Bernie! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #35
K&R n/t RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #6
There are LOTS of reasons to come to this conclusion. TONS of reasons. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #7
And to think.................... turbinetree Jul 2015 #8
A shrill? Well ok. jomin41 Jul 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #11
Shrill works for me too! bvar22 Jul 2015 #14
I've had it with 'centrist' democrats. sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #13
Southern "centrist" Democrats? bvar22 Jul 2015 #15
It was meant as a figure of speech sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #38
k & r rbnyc Jul 2015 #16
Bern, Bern, Bern the Ring of Fire. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #17
A slightly updated version: Maedhros Jul 2015 #23
Cool, thank you. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #28
Love ROF zentrum Jul 2015 #18
Supported Bernie Sanders Very Early On... ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #19
If you care about Justice, Bernie is your guy. azmom Jul 2015 #22
Glad they did this, but if you.. ion_theory Jul 2015 #24
Swell, elleng Jul 2015 #26
Interesting dflprincess Jul 2015 #27
If you all haven't listened to Ring of Fire .. get to it. Mike Papantonio is my hero. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #30
Pap is my hero also. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #33
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #32
papantonio is a great eg of- i missed something certainot Jul 2015 #34
They're just a bunch of haters! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #36
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
1. Exactly!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:01 AM
Jul 2015

"...she has enjoyed a very close relationship with Corporate America, receives significant funding and donations from Fortune 500 companies and America’s wealthiest individuals. She also has favored virtually every American military invasion, including Iraq. "

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
9. Those are two of three BIG things that keep me from supporting her in the primaries.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jul 2015

Climate Change, i.e her coziness with the fossil fuel magnates, and her stance on fracking and the XL Pipeline are the third.

I can't trust her politically. She has triangulated so much in her career that I cannot figure out who she really is politically. Her stance on social issues are pretty much in line with mine but...

Why even take a chance on voting for someone who does not have MY best economic interest at heart? Especially when there are at least two Democratic candidates out there who I feel do - O'Malley to a lesser extent and Sanders who fulfills my liberal progressive litmus tests 100%.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
2. Kicked and recommended!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:11 AM
Jul 2015

Thank you, Ring of Fire!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
25. ...a whole bunch.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jul 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
37. Yes, indeed!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:47 AM
Jul 2015

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
3. "..a close relationship with Corporate America" . (Hillary Clinton)
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:36 AM
Jul 2015

So they see it too.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. It's a no brainier for anyone wishing for a return of Representative Democracy!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:40 AM
Jul 2015

azmom

(5,208 posts)
20. You would think, right? Reading DU makes
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jul 2015

My head hurt.

Alkene

(752 posts)
5. .
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jul 2015

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
21. Damn I wish I could rec your post.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

Still missing you, George --

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. And Hillary and Bill are part of that club no matter how populist and folksy they try to pretend
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:41 PM
Jul 2015

I'm so in for Bernie .. It will be a dream come true to have a real progressive as a candidate. Have we really had one since FDR? Maybe Carter to a lesser extent. It's all making me nervous .. because I've read that even if Bernie wins the Primaries Hillary could still get the nomination. I guess it's up to the delegates. Anyone out there a delegate?

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
31. + 1,000,000,000 - What George Said !!!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jul 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. George would have loved Bernie!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:58 AM
Jul 2015

He sounds just like him, only a bit more graphic! Lol!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
6. K&R n/t
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:58 AM
Jul 2015

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
7. There are LOTS of reasons to come to this conclusion. TONS of reasons.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:14 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie can damn well win the general too.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
8. And to think....................
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jul 2015

with Toodles taking over the Shultz time slot we will not see any ROF commentary on the new TOODLES show called;
"How to be a shrill for more Right Wing Talking Points with Chuck (Toodles------ I'm a corporate hack) Todd a lackey and with no credibility, just name the MSNBC team players for the right wing Comcast system

jomin41

(559 posts)
10. A shrill? Well ok.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jul 2015

Response to jomin41 (Reply #10)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. Shrill works for me too!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Jul 2015

...a Shrill Shill!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
12. I've had it with 'centrist' democrats.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jul 2015

Nothing new there. I was fed up with Southern democrats before they became centrists democrats.

Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #12)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
15. Southern "centrist" Democrats?
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

like Max Baucus, Diane Feinstein, and a glom of other "Centrist" Democrats....including Free Trading President Obama and 30% Credit Card Protecting Vice President Joe Biden??

They MUST be from the South too!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
38. It was meant as a figure of speech
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:17 AM
Jul 2015

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
16. k & r
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

I was just coming here to post this.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
17. Bern, Bern, Bern the Ring of Fire.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jul 2015
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
23. A slightly updated version:
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 06:16 PM
Jul 2015

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
28. Cool, thank you.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jul 2015

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
18. Love ROF
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jul 2015

Catch it whenever I can.

Go Bernie!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
19. Supported Bernie Sanders Very Early On...
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

I KNOW what to expect by MSM and most of our very own Democrats who will be doing all they can to keep "The Bern" down! I'm so excited to see how much he's caught on, but I remain very afraid of what BIG MONEY will be able to do!

All of us who support him have to keep getting the word out! Living down here in my RED County in FL, I've already put bumper stickers on both of our "old" cars and NOBODY has flipped me off yet!! In the past I ALWAYS got reaction and nasty reactions to my bumper stickers, yard signs, etc., even having to bring my signs in at night because they got destroyed.

Don't have yard signs, but bumper stickers have stayed on my cars. And yes, they've been taken off from other people I've supported in the past.

I can only WISH for the best, we most certainly NEED REAL CHANGE!!

azmom

(5,208 posts)
22. If you care about Justice, Bernie is your guy.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jul 2015

Let's all work together and get Bernie in the White House.


Solidarity brothers and sisters

Latinos for Bernie

ion_theory

(235 posts)
24. Glad they did this, but if you..
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 06:38 PM
Jul 2015

listen to the shows you could figure out Pap and Sam are clearly voting for Senator Sanders. God I hope we can do this!!!

elleng

(130,895 posts)
26. Swell,
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jul 2015

they're ignoring Martin O'Malley.

Remind me to ignore THEM.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
27. Interesting
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jul 2015

Didn't RFK, Jr. split with other members of his family and support Clinton in 2008? I wonder what has changed his mind.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
30. If you all haven't listened to Ring of Fire .. get to it. Mike Papantonio is my hero.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:47 PM
Jul 2015

I've been listening to Sam Seeder since the Air America days on XM satellite and what can you say about RFK jr. He's been out there as an activist for the environment for decades. His father would be very proud.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. Pap is my hero also. nm
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:35 AM
Jul 2015
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
32. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jul 2015

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
34. papantonio is a great eg of- i missed something
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:52 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)

what he missed was the part where rw radio is important)
sorry pap but you fucked up.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
36. They're just a bunch of haters!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:20 AM
Jul 2015
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