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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:21 PM Jul 2015

How Ironic ??? - Supporters Of Bernie Sanders Being Accused Of Helping To Elect A Republican...

I wonder out loud... are there any Democrats that would rather have a Republican President, than a Bernie Sanders Presidency ???

There's no way to know of course, but...

The day before #BlackLivesMatter protesters commandeered Netroots Nation, former Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) explained why the left’s 2016 candidates were not appealing to non-white voters. Frank, who considers any challenge to Hillary Clinton to be a divisive waste of money, asked liberals to consider why the supporters of Bernie Sanders seemed to be so white and comfortable.


Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/21/do-white-liberals-have-a-bernie-sanders-problem/

Now let's be clear... I'm NOT accusing Barney Frank of dis-loyalty... but the question still stands when it comes to the monied interests.

That's why Wall Street has said they'd be Ok with either Jeb or Hillary.

And don't forget Zell Miller (D)... at the REPUBLICAN Convention:



Or Joe Lieberman (D)...



With all the money, power, and entitlements that come with office... I could see SOME in the Democratic Party rooting for a Republican Candidate, if Bernie Sanders were to become the Democratic standard bearer.

You ???


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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
1. The only ones I see saying such crap
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jul 2015

That they won't vote for the nominee if their candidate losses, are the ones who "claim" to be for Bernie, yet their constant attacks on the other candidates, and anyone who might disagree with them, make me wonder just what their real motives are. If Bernie wins, I think every supporter here, no matter who they are behind now, will vote for Bernie. To hint otherwise is just plain silly Willy.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. What an odd thing for Barney Frank to say
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jul 2015

I mean seeing as he's a white dude who's been comfortably nestled in his office for longer than I've been alive. He went from the care of his well-off parents, to the care of ivy league, to the care of political gratis.

No, senator Frank, your life will not change much with a republican in office.

However, as someone who works for a living - you know, work, labor, production of goods and provision of services? - I can guarantee you, Sen. Frank, that Scott Walker or Jeb Bush will very greatly impact my life.

maui902

(108 posts)
9. My main goal = defeat whomever the Republicans nominate for President
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:01 PM
Jul 2015

I am not currently a supporter of Bernie Sanders, and don't believe he's the Democratic candidate who has the best chance of winning the general election. But if he's the Democratic nominee, I will support him without reservation. There has been some debate on DU over the years how progressive the Democratic candidate should be, and from time to time, some posters have threatened, if the Democratic candidate is not sufficiently progressive for their taste, to vote for a third party or independent candidate, or even to just sit out the general election. It's just my opinion, but if the person who wins the Democratic nomination is not someone you would ordinarily support because that person is either too progressive or not progressive enough, you still vote for him or her because that person is by far the better choice than the Republican nominee, and every vote counts.

Bottom line, if Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee, I'll vote for him. Period.

kath

(10,565 posts)
14. But every vote doesn't count, thanks to the anachronistic Electoral College system.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:31 AM
Jul 2015

If you live in a solidly Red or solidly Blue state, your vote doesn't matter fer shit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. "Now let's be clear... I'm NOT accusing Barney Frank of dis-loyalty... but............"
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jul 2015

Ah, the ubiquitous "but"!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. White Hillary supporters are the wealthy ones.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:33 PM
Jul 2015

The crowd of 12000 in Phoenix was made up of a whole lot of regular working folks.

I know this for a fact, because I was there.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. And yet WillyT, I'm a Bernie supporter who has often tussled with you over your negative framing of
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:40 PM
Jul 2015

'social issues' your recurring OP's declaring that civil rights don't really matter. Here is a WillyT classic quote from March:
"IT IS THE MONEY... IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE MONEY...

It has rarely been about anyone's civil rights...

The good news.... is that you fix income inequality... you make people happy...

And happy people tend to live more in harmony.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026430750

We had quite a conversation about your choice of verbiage. 'It has rarely been about anyone's civil rights'. That right there is the very rhetoric that is causing all this trouble.

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