ABC/WaPo: Hillary 63, Bernie 14, Joe 12.

[DanTex]

Looks like others have posted these results without including Biden, but these are the full-field numbers.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/abc-post-22400

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Bernie is pretty much tied with Joe if you consider the margin of error?

Joe hasn't even entered the race yet!

I think he could get a lot of support if he joins.

More than Hillary? Probably not.

But if Hillary stumbles down the road, he would be in a great position to take the reins as the front runner.

[KittyWampus]

2. I really like O'Malley but if Biden enters that changes everything.

[RobertEarl]

3. The only poll that matters here is the DU poll

90% feeling the Bern!

[Cali_Democrat]

4. I'm becoming increasingly convinced...

that your posts are nothing more than performance art.

[MoonRiver]

5. There is certainly no basis in reality.

[RobertEarl]

6. I see

Two Clinton supporters with angst.

90% of DUers want Bernie as president.!! That's reality.

[MoonRiver]

7. Lol, DU is not a representative sample of the United States electorate!

Have you seen the most recent national poll? Hillary is now 52 pts. ahead of Bernie. That is reality.

[RobertEarl]

8. Doesn't matter

The poll on DU matters. It is reality. You can deny it all you want, but DUers are the meat and potatoes of the activist core of the party and we shall overcome! Join us.

[iandhr]

10. You think DU is a representative of the

party activists.

[RobertEarl]

12. I know it is

I find it rather weird anyone would laugh at such reality. And wonder why they would laugh.

[iandhr]

24. Ok

Will start with this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1150716

We have people here supporting baring people from running for office in Venezuela.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141151226

Someone here says that because a right wing candidate won an election the CIA must be behind it.

And for good measure...

We have people who post John Birch Society conspiracy theories about water fluoridation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017276757

Many people who post here are very far outside the mainstream of the party. Even many people who call themselves progressive would say WTH if they saw what people posted here.

[MoonRiver]

17. Why would I do that? I support Hillary, our next POTUS.

[JDPriestly]

26. Not yet!

I'm mentioning Bernie every chance I get. Likely supporters have, in general, not heard of him. I simply tell him to Google him and listen to him. We shall see.

It's too early to predict.

It's a long way from now until the convention and the primary elections.

[Renew Deal]

15. It doesn't sound like something to brag about

When you compare it to the electorate.

[okasha]

9. Performance, certainly.

Art, no.

[RobertEarl]

14. That's all yall got?

Bwahahahaha

Especially from some who tell false stories... know what I mean, okasha?

[okasha]

19. Have some cabrito.

[JaneyVee]

20. lol.

[riversedge]

27. ...

[redstateblues]

16. Performance art? DanTex is the hard numbers guy

He always backs up his opinions with data.

[Cali_Democrat]

21. I wasn't referring to DanTex

I was referring to the other guy above.

[FSogol]

44. It is like reading a Jack Chick pamphlet. The RAPTURE is COMING!

WILL YOU BE SAVED?

[Gothmog]

29. You know that DU does not represent or reflect the party as a whole?

Despite DU's best efforts, Dennis Kucinich never became the Democratic nominee.

[Adrahil]

31. Yeah, not so much. At least not right now. nt

[DCBob]

11. Wow.. big numbers for our future Madame President!

[JI7]

13. i wonder what the numbers would be if Biden joined the race

[okasha]

22. He usually runs up to ten points ahead of Sanders.

When he's not included, his support generally goes to Hillary.

[moobu2]

23. And Hillary does better against the Republican

clown, whichever clown they decide to pick.

[MoonRiver]

28. Was there info about how Bernie matches up against the Repugs?

One pet peeve I have is how little polling data exists about this.

[Adrahil]

30. I agree.

I know that every question cost the pollster money, and that it seems the pollsters don't yet consider worth their money to poll Bernie versus the Repugs.

I'd really like to see them poll Bernie. He is a serious candidate, even if he is really far behind.

[MoonRiver]

32. They're going to have to do this at some point.

Otherwise, people will start wondering about their agenda.

[Cha]

25. Thanks Dan Tex

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. If Joe announced tomorrow he would slide into second place./nt

[LordGlenconner]

34. Bernie's still stuck in the teens, I see

"But...but....he's surging."

"And he'll beat mean 'ol Hillary."

"Wait until voters get to know him."

It looks like the Bernistas are ratcheting up their anti Hillary push on GDP this week. They must be desperate. And scared.

[MineralMan]

35. It looks to me as though Senator Sanders has

stalled in the mid-teens at this point. That's disappointing. There aren't any new poll numbers from Iowa since 6/29. I have no idea when we'll get fresh results, but I'm not seeing any momentum for Bernie in the national polls.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. With him polling in the single digits among POC who make over 40% of Democratic primary voters...

With him polling in the single digits among POC who make over 40% of Democratic primary voters is it logical to expect him to poll much higher?

[MineralMan]

38. That is certainly a factor, at least in some places.

Nationally, I think that is holding him back. When you add Hispanic voters, the effect is even stronger in some states. If momentum flags, it's going to be more and more difficult, I think.

Elections are about many things. Grassroots efforts can only do so much. If Sanders' campaign stalls and loses momentum, it will be difficult for it to recover.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Democratic primary voters who identify as liberal should be in his wheelhouse and he trails 55-22

http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/07/20/National-Politics/Polling/question_15805.xml?uuid=UauQ6C8jEeWBj6JC8o5wIg#

[MineralMan]

40. Clinton has very high popularity numbers among self-identified

liberals. It's not going to be easy for Sanders to change that, I think. Here on DU, there is a lot of focus on relatively small differences between Clinton and Sanders, politically and on policy terms. Outside of DU, though, I'm not seeing it. Poll numbers in the low teens show a good base of support, but making inroads into Hillary's numbers is not going to be a walk in the park, by any means.

We get a distorted view of Democratic politics here on DU. It's very heavily weighted to the left end of the political spectrum. It's important to keep an eye on a broader perspective, I think.

I'm in Minnesota. There are a lot of Sanders fans here, myself among them. However, since I'm involved in precinct-level politics here, I'm not seeing it as strongly as I see it here. Lots of Democrats here like Clinton very much. We don't caucus until March 1, so the picture is not crystal clear here yet.

I'd guess that Sanders' numbers are in the 20% range here, just based on seat of the pants measurements. But, that's hardly scientific polling.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. It's the Narcissism Of Small Differences

Folks have to magnify small differences among themselves to maintain their sense of identity.

I suspect despite our support for different candidates there is a lot more we agree on than disagree on.

[MineralMan]

42. Yes, along with some who are simply stirring the cesspool.

It's impossible to say who is which, though. Given the low impact of DU discussions on real politics, such activities really make no sense.

I'll be supporting whoever becomes the nominee, of course. I can gladly campaign for any of the top three Democratic candidates. I don't agree 100% with any of them, of course. I never do. But, in the end, I am a Democratic activist, so I'll be out there, regardless of what name is on the ballot next November.

Those who won't don't really count for much in the real world of elections. I really have zero time for any group that declares that they won't vote for the Democratic nominee unless it's the one they prefer. That's simply ridiculous.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. There are dedicated ABCers of whom we will lose some in the general...

There are dedicated ABCers of whom we will lose some in the general but I doubt losing them will be determinative in the general.
The GOP has their ABBers , their ABRers, and so on and so forth.

[2banon]

36. see there? it's in the bag for HRC..

she doesn't even need votes from Bernie supporters it's so sewn up!