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Hillary Clinton Says She's 'Very Disappointed' in Donald Trump for Immigration CommentsBy Tierney McAfee - PeopleMagazine
07/07/2015 AT 08:10 PM EDT
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Hillary Clinton is not happy with her one-time supporter Donald Trump.
In her first national interview as a 2016 presidential candidate, Clinton spoke out against her opponent and longtime friend who in the past has donated to several of her Senate campaigns and also made a $100,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation condemning his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants.
"I'm very disappointed in those comments and I feel very bad and very disappointed with him and with the Republican Party for not responding immediately and saying, 'Enough, stop it,' " the Democratic front-runner tells CNN.
"But you know they are all in the same general area on immigration," she adds of the Republican Party. "They don't want to provide a path to citizenship. They range across a spectrum of being either grudgingly welcome or hostile towards immigrants, and I'm going to talk about comprehensive immigration reform. I'm going to talk about all of the good, law-abiding, productive members of the immigrant community that I personally know, that I've met over the course of my life, that I would like to see have a path to citizenship."
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More: http://www.people.com/article/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-immigration-comments-disappointed
joshcryer
(62,277 posts)Yep. No substantive difference between Jeb and Trump. 'cept Trump has perhaps lost all sense of self-control.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)It's appalling that in a country that only has two viable parties, one of them, that regularly gathers close to half or more than half the votes, is so far out to lunch on simple matters of human decency. All Dems should recognize this - that an alignment with such an evil political party can't be let to define what is "moderate" or "center" in political discourse. All Dems should recognize this - that the Republican "base" is big money in the form of investment capital and that there's no way a Dem can reasonably "abstract social issues from economic issues", as third-way politics asks of us. To say nothing of abstracting economic issues from issues regarding the MIC and a foreign policy established on the principal of eternal war.
It's all part of the same thing and Trump/Cruz are only the most nasty faces of it, in today's political news.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Marriage equality. He even used to donate to Clinton's. I think FOX news destroyed his remaining brain cells.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm sure some are left thinking WTF as they love what Trump said. Hillary just isn't that into him. WTF at the WTFers. Bigots.
Really ugly.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It makes no sense at all. That is why I am sure every member of this site appreciates here talking about it and the differences in positions and talking about Trump in negative terms.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...when people show their true colors.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I understand some are upset at her taking on the right wing machine. To them, we can both agree, wtf. Fuck Trump. Really is an issue all but the right can get behind her on. Not one part about that is hippy punching. So easy to dismiss things that way though. Easier than thought. Hippy punching. lol. That's too cute by half. Maybe your alert will work and you can go around with your head held high for taking issue with Trump being called out. He doesn't need support and his comments aren't worthy of support. Additionally, your attempt to make WillyT out to be some weak person is pretty offensive. Hippy punching WillyT. Its too funny. One of this board most prolific and aggressive posters and you are making them out to be weak. Saying I am hippy punching them. You shouldn't make those offensive insinuations about posters.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)My comment was to your completely lame attempt to PRETEND "some on the left" give one shit about, The Donald. How very Fox News of you.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)eom
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Bless your heart.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Dyspepsia can be a source of consternation or maybe consternation is a source of dyspepsia.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I'm so happy for you. Are you passed the whole suicide thing you were going on about in our last conversation?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Considering I haven't said boo to you since you implied that might harm yourself over Internet political posts, having you inject yourself here uninvited proves that.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Compassionate even.
Fuck Trump.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"That's not a very nice thing to say about Hillary's friend."
Sorry if I said something mean about a friend of Hillary and it is bothering you. I will try to show the same compassion as you moving forward.
I do know those were very kind words you graced the other poster with. I was acknowledging your compassion. It is appreciated.
Fuck Trump
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not an ounce of anger or aggression from them. Simply empathy and compassion. Please see above where they are concerned about the condition of your heart. We should emulate them.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)eom
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have been thinking of a way to bullshit an answer to that and can't come up with anything that wouldn't be truly offensive. The question you pose here has left me smiling.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)eom
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Then you can play your little games to your hearts' content.
We're supposed to be discussing primaries here.
I'm glad Hillary criticized Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Since our relationship is a platonic one , for my part, I will keep it in the open.
But I thank you for your concern and suggestion, I think.
Bongo Prophet
(2,651 posts)I think you misread NCT's words there. It was a shot at "some of them" meaning some of the Republicans who are in the OPs question about what they are going to do with Trump.
If one is so wrapped in battle armor, one tends to find things to battle over. A variation on the saying, "when you are a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."
Anyway, good luck in the future, and try to read twice, attack only after you have confirmed a genuine offence.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I'll do just fine without your sermons.
Mmmmmkay?
Bongo Prophet
(2,651 posts)Good luck with that heavy weapon of yours.
99Forever
(14,524 posts).....unsolicited free advice is worth exactly what I pay for it.
Bu bye.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Did she wag her finger and go "tsk tsk"?
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...especially when compared to Donald Trump. And I'm glad she pointed out that the Republican field is on the wrong side of this issue.
But her comments are too, too coy. To say you are "disappointed" in someone is to say that you had positive expectations in the first place. If she had positive expectations of Donald fucking Trump, then... she must not know who Trump is.
But really, she knows who and what he is. She is trying to appear even-tempered and not insulting; to avoid seeming hot-headed; to sound gracious in her criticisms of political foes. Whereas what he and the Republican party deserve on this is a verbal punch in the nose -- several, actually.
To hear her carefully mince words on such a slam dunk topic makes me disappointed in her. And in this case, it does come from a place of having positive expectations in the first place.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Somewhat insignificant, but favorable and no attempt to spin it as a negative. Very impressed and appreciated.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Is the whiff of "guilt by former association" in the air?
Hillary Clinton is not happy with her one-time supporter Donald Trump.
In all, Trump has contributed to 96 candidates running for federal political office since the 1990 election cycle, the Center finds. Only 48 of the recipients exactly half were Republicans at the time they received their contribution,including ex-Gov. Charlie Crist (I-Fla.) and ex-Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), who both of whom received their Trump contributions as Republicans.
Since the 1990 election cycle, the top 10 recipients of Trumps political contributions number six Democrats and four Republicans. Embattled Rep. Charlie Rangel(D-N.Y.), who was censured last year by his U.S. House colleagues, has received the most Trump money, totaling $24,750. The most recent contribution from Trump to Rangel was a $10,000 gift during the 2006 election cycle.
In the most recent election cycle, Trump doled out $22,500 to political candidates, of which $16,200 benefited Democrats.
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid [(D-Nev.) has received the fourth-largest amount of Trumps contributions, including $4,800 in the successful 2010 campaign against Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle. In total Trump has contributed $10,400 to Reid.
In 2010, Trump also contributed $4,000 to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who easily won re-election. Schumer has received $8,900 from Trump since the 1996 election cycle. Trump has also been generous to New Yorks other Democratic U.S. senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, whos received $5,850 in Trump money.
After McCain, the Republican with the largest amount of Trumps contributions is former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), who left office in disgrace in 2006 when his online solicitation of male House pages became known. Trump contributed $9,500 to Foley between the 1996 and 2006 election cycles.
Trump has also supported other notable politicians, including:
$7,000 to former Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), the liberal lion of the Senate
$7,500 to former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R)
$5,500 to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) including $2,000 during his 2004 presidential run
$5,000 to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.)
$4,000 to former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.)
$2,000 to former President George W. Bush (R)
$1,000 to then-Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.)
Trumps donations to various political action committees and 527 groups also demonstrate his bipartisan checkbook.
During the most recent election cycle, Trump contributed $170,000 to the Republican Governors Association, $50,000 to the ultra-conservative American Crossroads PAC, $30,400 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee and $10,000 to the Democratic Party of New York.
However, of the nearly $420,000 Trump has donated to committees, the largest recipient has been the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee with $116,000 or more than one fourth of his total contributions to all party and political action committees.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/02/donald-trumps-donations-to-democrats/
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)the perpetual outrage the OP tends to post is more on target for posting habits, not this trite, luke warm piece.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)offal spewing from The Donald's hole in the front of his head which resembles the one that functions when he sits on the pot.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Trump is an assclown of the highest order.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)"The Clinton Foundation will not be returning any funds raised from GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to a Thursday report.
The international charitable organization has collected a combined total of at least $105,000 from Trump and his daughter, Ivanka Trump, records show.
It currently has no plans on returning those contributions following the real estate moguls controversial remarks on Hispanic immigrants last month, according to Politico."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/247336-report-clinton-foundation-keeping-trump-money
She has the power to send a message if she wants to.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Should Charley Rangel, Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee return the money too:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/02/donald-trumps-donations-to-democrats/
As for myself I would take money from the devil to give it to the poor, the widowed, and the orphans
BTW, 100k is a chump change contribution for a self identifying nine billionaire
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Then no, it's not really necessary as its not as high-profile. If Biden joins the race he should.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)The whole party is implicated as his largest single donation was to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
When they return the money so should the Clinton Foundation.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)That's the problem with Clinton, she refuses to be bold when the time calls for it. At a time when money in politics is one of the central issues in the campaign, what better way to show you mean what you say than by giving back money to Trump the blowhard racist.
It's not that big a deal, but it would be a step in the right direction and would help shed her image of being risk-averse and calculating.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Took a lot of guts for her to make a statement like that.