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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:00 AM Apr 2015

Clinton's Popularity Declines--But Still Beats her GOP Rivals' (POLL)





Hillary Clinton’s personal popularity has dropped to virtually an even split in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, marking her potential vulnerability as a presidential candidate. Yet she still surpasses her possible Republican rivals in favorability and vote preference alike.


Jeb Bush’s favorable-unfavorable rating is 33-53 percent; Chris Christie’s, 26-51 percent. Compared with Clinton, more Americans have yet to form an opinion of Bush, Christie, or, especially, the others tested in this poll: Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Scott Walker. Still, Cruz’s favorability rating, like Bush’s, is underwater by 20 points, Rubio’s by 14, Paul’s by 13 and Walker’s – the least-known – by 7. Christie’s worst off, 25 points in the hole.


PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE – Head-to-head, Clinton leads Bush by 12 points among registered voters, 53-41 percent, essentially unchanged in the past year. She has 54 to 56 percent support against Rubio, Walker and Cruz alike, vs. their 39 to 40 percent.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clintons-popularity-declines-beats-gop-rivals-poll/story?id=30052071
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Clinton's Popularity Declines--But Still Beats her GOP Rivals' (POLL) (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 OP
after another year of push polls 'they' will have their 'man' way up on top of BS mountian. Sunlei Apr 2015 #1
Say I call you on the phone... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #3
sorry, republicans are pros using media like polls, news and social media. They spend billions. Sunlei Apr 2015 #4
"If I told you that Hillary strangles kittens as a hobby, Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #7
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" Sunlei Apr 2015 #8
Yes, but I'm talking about activating systems that don't rise Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #9
I know what you mean. Like the way republicans made Liberal a 'bad word'. Sunlei Apr 2015 #10
Yes, like that. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #12
Pavlovian conditioning disdains the subtleties of grammar and logic -- very good Bill USA Apr 2015 #14
The GOP and its operatives at FOX News will keep up the propaganda attacks UCmeNdc Apr 2015 #2
The problem is Clinton's numbers have nowhere to go Proud Public Servant Apr 2015 #5
There is such a thing as "reversion to the mean" or water rising to its level... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #6
That's pretty much my sense of it. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #11
Almost everybody has formed an opinion of HRC and she's right side up, if barely (49-46) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #16
on the other hand, generally speaking, the more the GOP hopefuls talk the more apparent it becomes Bill USA Apr 2015 #13
Well,nice to know she is more popular than Ted Cruz......... hedgehog Apr 2015 #15

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. after another year of push polls 'they' will have their 'man' way up on top of BS mountian.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:31 AM
Apr 2015

define "push poll"

push poll



noun

noun: push poll; plural noun: push polls




an ostensible opinion poll in which the true objective is to sway voters using loaded or manipulative questions.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Say I call you on the phone...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:50 AM
Apr 2015

And I ask you...

If the election was held today, who would you vote for Joe Blow the Democrat or Jane Blow the Republican how is that question loaded?

A loaded question would be "when did you stop cheating on your taxes?"

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. sorry, republicans are pros using media like polls, news and social media. They spend billions.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:00 AM
Apr 2015
A push poll is an interactive marketing technique, most commonly employed during political campaigning, in which an individual or organization attempts to influence or alter the view of voters under the guise of conducting a poll.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. "If I told you that Hillary strangles kittens as a hobby,
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 12:12 PM
Apr 2015

would that change your opinion of her?"


Repeat 6 billion times.

Result: a conditioned link between thinking of Hillary & a visceral feeling of disgust.

Doesn't matter if it's true.

Doesn't even matter if it contains a "not." The neural networks through which Pavlovian conditioning occurs are not big on grammar, just the juxtaposition of the two ideas.



Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. Yes, but I'm talking about activating systems that don't rise
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 12:28 PM
Apr 2015

to the level of rational thought or belief.

Here is the specific process I'm talking about:

Pavlovian conditioning Pav·lo·vi·an conditioning (pāv-lō'vē-ən, -lô'-)
n.
A process of behavior modification by which a subject comes to respond in a desired manner to a previously neutral stimulus that has been repeatedly presented along with an unconditioned stimulus that elicits the desired response.

The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
2. The GOP and its operatives at FOX News will keep up the propaganda attacks
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:39 AM
Apr 2015

against Mrs. Clinton. Her PR people will have to learn how to anticipate attacks.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
5. The problem is Clinton's numbers have nowhere to go
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:13 AM
Apr 2015

but down.

After 23 years in the public eye, it's wildly unlikely that she's going to get people to form a more favorable opinion of her than they already have. And after her 23 years in the public eye, everyone already has an opinion.

For GOP challengers, by contrast, there's a lot more room to improve favorables; they're both less-well-known overall and only superficially known when they are, leaving much more space to craft/invent/re-invent a public image. Hillary hasn't got that luxury.

I'd bet cash money that, by the day of the Iowa caucuses, her lead over the leading Republican (if she has a lead) will be within the polls' margins of error.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. There is such a thing as "reversion to the mean" or water rising to its level...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:43 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Thu Apr 2, 2015, 12:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Any politician who is in the public eye and in the thick of politics such as Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama is going to split the electorate roughly in half. We are a deeply...deeply polarized nation.

And I see the favorite for the Republican nomination, Jeb Bush, is really upside down (33%-51).


I will wager a $100.00 donation to DU she has a lead outside the margin of error against all her Republican opponents, come the Iowa caucus.


She will continue to lead those clowns, ciphers, and cretins if for no other reason they will be running against each other and tearing themselves apart while she will be essentially running against herself and taking pot shots, as she has been doing, against all of them...



Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. That's pretty much my sense of it.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:58 PM
Apr 2015

I'm making no bets on Iowa, though.

In ordinary times, we could make some reasonable guesses about what's coming. However, I don't think these are ordinary times. Game-changing shifts can occur because there is so much politico-economic-environmental instability these days. A lot of things can happen, and I could well imagine that 2016 could turn on issues that are not even on the horizon as yet.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. Almost everybody has formed an opinion of HRC and she's right side up, if barely (49-46)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 08:13 PM
Apr 2015

Almost everybody has formed an opinion of Bush The More(r) and he is upside down 33-51 or sixty percent of the people who have formed an opinion of him have an unfavorable opinion of him...

If I was In Vegas I rather have Hilary's hand than Bush The More(r).

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
13. on the other hand, generally speaking, the more the GOP hopefuls talk the more apparent it becomes
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 06:21 PM
Apr 2015

to (almost) everyone that they are all, to varying degrees, idiots and lunatics. Jeb Bush is about the only one who actually approximates a normal person.

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