2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTime to dump the entire democratic leadership. Bring back Howard Dean.
Harry Reid, Pelosi, and probably Hoyer. We need new faces.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Love the good Doctor, but how is he a "new face"?
davishenderson265
(108 posts)Obama shunned Dean. Big mistake.
world wide wally
(21,760 posts)lastlib
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(Do I even need this? )
world wide wally
(21,760 posts)onenote
(42,835 posts)He'd have to get elected. Haven't seen any sign that he's interested in running for anything.
davishenderson265
(108 posts)NT
OLDMDDEM
(1,579 posts)We need the savvy of Howard Dean and the voice of Ted Kennedy.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)That's what he's been doing, working as an unregistered (but paid) lobbyist for the hotshot K Street firm McKenna, Long, and Aldridge, stepping all over his own previous toes arguing for anything the firm's clients (including Big Pharma) find in their best interests.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
davishenderson265
(108 posts)It's a fact of life that is never going to change until there is honest to goodness finance reform.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)over anyone else? Honestly, he's not (and never was) a savior.
davishenderson265
(108 posts)NT
frazzled
(18,402 posts)The DSCC and the DCCC are far more involved, in many ways, in fielding the respective candidates in Senate and House races ... and even in fundraising. I always give to those two groups, but almost never to the DNC.
DFW
(54,506 posts)He said he would lend his name to some law firm for income (and name recognition for them), and then spend the rest of his time "raising hell for causes he believed in," which is pretty much exactly what he's been doing. He was on the march against human trafficking from Bangkok to the Burmese border. He went to Davos as an environmental advocate. And, of course, he's been working with brother Jim on DFA causes.
He stepped down from the DNC in 2009, saying that when your own party is in the White House, the President is the head of the party, not the national party chairman. Letting him go was Obama's mistake. Letting Howard slip through his fingers was Rahm's poison gift to Obama. Obama's loyalty to Rahm blinded him to the fact that without Howard, he never would have had two years of a Democratic Congress to begin with. At the LATEST, the DNC should have seen after the 2010 election that Howard's ability was about the only thing that would save us in subsequent elections. The fact that the Republicans recognized far too late in 2012 how vulnerable Obama was for re-election saved our sorry asses from getting a Republican president in 2012. They figure out too late that with a viable candidate, they could have made Obama the one term president that McTurtle wanted. Instead, they nominated Willard, and the savvy ones in their party knew from the start they were doomed to be out of the Oval Office for another four years.