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Time to dump the entire democratic leadership. Bring back Howard Dean. (Original Post) davishenderson265 Nov 2014 OP
"new faces" but let's bring back Dean. bigwillq Nov 2014 #1
Dean did not get to fulfill his promise. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #6
Personally, agree with all of them,but I do see Pelosi as being pretty feisty and able to get result world wide wally Nov 2014 #2
yeah--"Impeachment is off the table" was a great result..... lastlib Nov 2014 #10
yeah.. OK… her too world wide wally Nov 2014 #12
For Dean to hold any of those leadership positions onenote Nov 2014 #3
I meant back to head the DNC davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #7
I agree OLDMDDEM Nov 2014 #4
Yeah, because Washington lobbyists are what the party needs! frazzled Nov 2014 #5
That s what former politicians do. They get high paying lobbyist jobs. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #8
Then why advocate for bringing him back frazzled Nov 2014 #9
Because all he did was win when he ran the DNC. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #11
The DNC is not the sole arbiter of who wins races frazzled Nov 2014 #13
Howard said flat out in 2009 what he would do if not picked for Obama's cabinet DFW Nov 2014 #14

lastlib

(23,381 posts)
10. yeah--"Impeachment is off the table" was a great result.....
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:05 PM
Nov 2014

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onenote

(42,835 posts)
3. For Dean to hold any of those leadership positions
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 04:52 PM
Nov 2014

He'd have to get elected. Haven't seen any sign that he's interested in running for anything.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Yeah, because Washington lobbyists are what the party needs!
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

That's what he's been doing, working as an unregistered (but paid) lobbyist for the hotshot K Street firm McKenna, Long, and Aldridge, stepping all over his own previous toes arguing for anything the firm's clients (including Big Pharma) find in their best interests.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

davishenderson265

(108 posts)
8. That s what former politicians do. They get high paying lobbyist jobs.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 06:08 PM
Nov 2014

It's a fact of life that is never going to change until there is honest to goodness finance reform.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. The DNC is not the sole arbiter of who wins races
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:02 PM
Nov 2014

The DSCC and the DCCC are far more involved, in many ways, in fielding the respective candidates in Senate and House races ... and even in fundraising. I always give to those two groups, but almost never to the DNC.

DFW

(54,506 posts)
14. Howard said flat out in 2009 what he would do if not picked for Obama's cabinet
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:14 PM
Nov 2014

He said he would lend his name to some law firm for income (and name recognition for them), and then spend the rest of his time "raising hell for causes he believed in," which is pretty much exactly what he's been doing. He was on the march against human trafficking from Bangkok to the Burmese border. He went to Davos as an environmental advocate. And, of course, he's been working with brother Jim on DFA causes.

He stepped down from the DNC in 2009, saying that when your own party is in the White House, the President is the head of the party, not the national party chairman. Letting him go was Obama's mistake. Letting Howard slip through his fingers was Rahm's poison gift to Obama. Obama's loyalty to Rahm blinded him to the fact that without Howard, he never would have had two years of a Democratic Congress to begin with. At the LATEST, the DNC should have seen after the 2010 election that Howard's ability was about the only thing that would save us in subsequent elections. The fact that the Republicans recognized far too late in 2012 how vulnerable Obama was for re-election saved our sorry asses from getting a Republican president in 2012. They figure out too late that with a viable candidate, they could have made Obama the one term president that McTurtle wanted. Instead, they nominated Willard, and the savvy ones in their party knew from the start they were doomed to be out of the Oval Office for another four years.

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