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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:18 AM

Here is a list of potential Democratic presidential candidates for 2016:

Hillary Clinton

Elizabeth Warren

Kirsten Gillibrand

Debbie Wasserman Schultz


Do I detect a pattern?



On edit: another triumph for McGovern's 1972 reforms. It's taken a while to bear fruit, but he made us the party that wasn't solely about white men!

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-03-11/news/9101220573_1_democratic-party-democratic-national-chairman-nomination

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Reply Here is a list of potential Democratic presidential candidates for 2016: (Original post)
hedgehog Dec 2012 OP
NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #1
marlakay Dec 2012 #23
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #2
hedgehog Dec 2012 #3
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #4
boingboinh Dec 2012 #5
hedgehog Dec 2012 #6
JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #7
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #8
Bake Dec 2012 #9
hedgehog Dec 2012 #10
KamaAina Dec 2012 #15
One of the 99 Dec 2012 #17
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #19
One of the 99 Dec 2012 #20
Agschmid Dec 2012 #22
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #11
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #16
dsc Dec 2012 #33
forestpath Dec 2012 #18
DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #12
hedgehog Dec 2012 #13
DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #14
davidpdx Dec 2012 #21
brooklynite Dec 2012 #24
Maximumnegro Dec 2012 #25
brooklynite Dec 2012 #32
JI7 Dec 2012 #26
pnwest Dec 2012 #27
HeavenTim Dec 2012 #28
HeavenTim Dec 2012 #29
graham4anything Dec 2012 #30
MrYikes Dec 2012 #31
Splinter Cell Dec 2012 #34
graham4anything Dec 2012 #35

Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:23 AM

1. Brian Schweitzer is a likely

He jokingly referred to how he loved the people of Iowa & New Hampshire and that he was going to have free time on his hands once his term is up.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:26 AM

23. I am thinking he will have lots of time to go city to city

Making friends for the next 3 years....i am sure he watched how Obama won Iowa by having a great ground game and visiting all the towns over and over.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:24 AM

2. Uh…they're all blondes?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:26 AM

3. I didn't notice that part!

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:29 AM

4. I'm a Gillebrand fan, but if Hillary jumps in I will switch to her immediately. n/t

 

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:36 AM

5. Hillary is TOO Corporate Owned so sadly she is likely to win in 2016

 

In a perfect world Elizabeth Warren would run and win. Schultz and Clinton have both shown hints of a liking to big money.

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Response to boingboinh (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:41 AM

6. Hillary made a lot of deals here in New York State to raise money for

her campaign in 2008. I'm sure every one of them is in a binder somewhere.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:42 PM

7. Wow

The media is really doing a good job of getting people to ignore the man being sworn in this January. It's like they think it's a horrible nightmare so just want America and progressive America to sit our ass and be victims for the next four years.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:01 PM

8. Not quite so fast there...

Candidates Likely to run in 2016:

Martin O'Malley - Yes
Hillary Clinton - Yes
Joe Biden - Maybe
Andrew Cuomo - Maybe
Elizabeth Warren - Maybe, but not likely
Kirsten Gillibrand- No
Debbie Wasserman Schultz - No

I am sure there are a few more not on the list yet

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:44 PM

9. I'd say neither Warren, Gillibrand, nor Wasserman-Schultz are viable candidates at this point.

Warren's hasn't even served a day in the Senate yet. Gillibrand, nobody outside of NY has heard of except DUers, and Wasserman-Schultz is an idiot that **I** wouldn't vote for.

HRC and Smokin' Joe are the standouts on that list.



Bake

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:45 PM

10. I'm not ready to endorse or discard anyone yet - after all, my focus is still on President Obama!

I just thought it interesting that so many women have been named as possible contenders.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:04 PM

15. Dear FSM, not Andrew Cuomo

He makes Obama lok like Bernie Sanders.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:21 PM

17. He makes Chris Christie look like FDR. nt

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Response to One of the 99 (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:38 PM

19. Please take that thought back. I can never imagine FDR telling someone to

"go fuck yourself".

Otherwise I will have to bring back the G. Gordon Liddy picture.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:44 PM

20. Sorry

but Cuomo sucks.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:39 PM

22. O'Malley! Woot! n/t

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:17 PM

11. I still say people should consider Sherrod Brown

He's proven he can be elected in a critical swing state against massive opposition spending

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:16 PM

16. Unfortunately he doesn't have much visibility outside of Ohio and the Left Wing Blogosphere.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:17 PM

33. Ohio is the state that matters

If he can win there he can win anywhere. The fact is Brown has been elected state wide in Ohio 3 times the last time having been outspent by tens of millions of dollars. He would make a great President.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:36 PM

18. Love him - and TRUST him.

 

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:06 PM

12. I think we'll all be surprised

once the primary season gets underway.

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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:23 PM

13. That's a safe prediction!

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:27 PM

14. Yep.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:19 PM

21. That isn't even near a definitive list of possible candidates

You really should have stated women candidates because that's who you are focusing on.

Even then there maybe a few candidates who run that we don't expect. Very few people would have guessed Obama would have won in 2008 (Bushisalier was one of the few users who did, props to him). His name recognition was low even though he was the keynote speaker at the 2004 DNC and a senator. It is possible that we have another person who runs that is a surprise. You just never can tell.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:35 AM

24. I'd say the pattern is one of willful ignorance...

...omitting Martin O'Malley, Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, Brian Schweitzer, Deval Patrick...

...and quite frankly being WAY too early to be informative.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:35 AM

25. None of those names will make it, period.

The presidency is a popularity contest. Sorry if the diehards on either team think otherwise. Biden is a gaffe machine second to none, Cuomo has no charisma and is too NY, Schweitzer needs to lose a few pounds and then some, Patrick will be compared to Obama because he's black and frankly I think the country will veer hard to the whitest person in the room, because that's the pendulum nature of the country.

I am indifferent to Hillary but you better believe that a woman is likely to take the WH in 2016 - all demographic signals point to it. And you'd better believe she will have the O campaign machinery behind her. She ain't stupid. And he will support her. My money is on her and if not her, Gillibrand. I kind of hope it's Gillibrand because she's young, attractive, and blonde. Yeah I went there. Add that to her record and if she runs a strong primary campaign she could win the presidency. Let's not pretend like the presidency is about choosing the smartest, most capable person for the job. For the vast majority it's about likability, period. Clinton faces the hurdle of likability.

The biggest hurdle Dems face in 2016 is if the GOP has a strong woman candidate. It will be all about women in 2016.

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Response to Maximumnegro (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:00 AM

32. First - whether any will "make it" is irrelevant...

The OP asked about Presidential candidates, period.

Second, popularity is a component, but so is organizational skill and drive. When I was in Charlotte, Kirsten Gillibrand was NOT making the rounds of Iowa, New Hampshire, etc. As a New Yorker, I'm happy with her voting record, but I'm not seeing anything that says she's raising her profile for a Presidential run. And I certainly don't expect Elizabeth Warren to do so either, which would involve starting to run in the middle of her first Elected term (yes, Obama pulled this off, but AFTER he's been previously elected to the State Senate).

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:40 AM

26. the only likely one is Hillary Clinton, none of the others are going to run

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:16 AM

27. Oh, FFS! Can we at least let the president swear in for

his second term, before we start on the 2016 election campaign?

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:02 AM

28. enh

 

ye. wonderful~ nice to m u. i'm coming~

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:04 AM

29. for more ~

 

u know, it hard, spend time for this, b i done it because of r.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:06 AM

30. Hillary45. It's a done deal. Because this time Hillary has the voters she did not have in 2008

 

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and those voters want her 100%

the core Obama voters like myself. There is no question, no waiver, no others.

It takes a Clinton to defeat a Bush

and Hillary will knock out Jeb in 2016 (to continue with the boxing analogy so perfectly worked by Barack Obama and Chicago in 2008 and 2012

There are just so many reasons and it will happen.
The other female candidates on the list don't have anywhere near the track record Hillary has.
The other male candidates besides Joe Biden remind me of the ones that ran in 1988 besides Jesse Jackson(who should have won that year, but it was just too soon.)

The other female candidates all won't run if Hillary does (and it boggles the mind to think they would have the chutzpah to even try, they are so out of the league.)

Look at our demographics, and well, 2016 there will not(and I say this just from the demographics and no negative reason at all) but there will not be a white male candidate for president. It won't happen. The party is not going to run from its destiny to continue to create history.

Look for the US Supreme Court standard. First came Thurgood Marshall, then came Sandra Dey O'Connor.

It will 100% guaranteed, as never in my life have I been so assured of it, Hillary45 as our 45th President.

She will run, there is no doubt. For her mother. For all those in the past. For her daughter.
For destiny. For all time.

and Hillary has the one singular thing no other candidate in the nation has- ALL her baggage, all the crap they threw at her, 100% of everything there is to know about her, all is already been vetted. There is no swiftboating possible.

Whereas Jeb, we hardly know ye. Most people know nothing about him
and any of the above candidates named, NONE of them have ever been vetted.

But the beauty of Hillary is, all is known and she fights to win.
And in 2016 has President Obama's core voters like myself on her side this time
(those that know me, know I was 100% against her in 2008. She EARNED my vote the old fashioned way- through hard work and loyalty and for not whining and leaving the arena like Bill Bradley and Russ Feingold (and even to some extent Al Gore did) disappeared after their loses.

She toughed it out and stayed in the public sector, SERVING THE PEOPLE of the nation, in a very JFK kind of way. Bill envoked JFK back then, though I never really saw it as anything more than namedropping. Hillary though actually envoked the JFK spirit doing for the country, instead of going into some high paying private sector job like so many others.

Hillary has earned my vote and loyalty. And she has earned the Presidency.
And nothing will change my mind about this

Right now I got them as LINCOLN-FDR=LBJ=OBAMA=CARTER as the five best.
Can we have in Hillary yet another best of all time in her?
I believe so, and btw, I believe Hillary will act as our President from the left, like the
great Saul Alinsky the republicans derided her about.

Because Hillary is another Team Chicago and Chicago is a great work, not a bad word,
and Chicago wins Presidential races (1960 1964 2008 2012 2016 2020)

It takes a Clinton to beat a Bush. Sometimes history repeating itself is a good thing.
It will again in 2016 when Hillary beats Bush and KO's him decisively

imho.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:46 AM

31. yep

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #30)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:07 PM

34. Uh...no

A lot of "core Obama voters" are not jumping on the Billary bandwagon. I won't vote for her. This party has got to move on. We're on the edge of a major democratic shift, and the Clintons are not the leaders for our party as we move further into the 21st century.

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Response to Splinter Cell (Reply #34)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:23 PM

35. Why would you abandon President Obama?

 

but then why anyone abandoned Jimmy Carter and LBJ I don't know either.

Especially with what came in after them.

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